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Jan. 29, 2014
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Bat Warmers (Sleeves and Such). Any rules against using them?

OC: Your original question was concerning ASA rules and batwarmers.

I talked with ASA last year and they were adamant that bat warmers are enhancing performance and not necessarily just keeping bats from breaking. (Many times you would see people using batwarmers when it was in the 70-80 degree range.) After testing, ASA decided to outlaw batwarmers.

There is a misconception that bats break because the bat gets cold. Testing shows that it is the ball compression increasing and the ball getting "harder" causes the bats to break.

If memory serves me correctly balls are tested at approximately 72 degrees. For every 1 degree of temperature change, the compression changes by approx 5 lbs. A 475 compression ball in 52 degree weather would feel like a 575 compression ball. (Conversely at 92 degrees the ball is 375 compression.)

Alan Tanner is one of the most knowledgeable people on the "whats" and "whys" of this. We've discussed this before and I think I have the info correct?

(The prior poster is correct that SSUSA allows batwarmers.)


Jan. 20, 2014
jfsully
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Mask or Pitcher Protection Screen

In our leagues most pitchers only use the screen as an additional fielder. Rarely do they get back behind the screen after they deliver the pitch.
Jan. 2, 2014
jfsully
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Hermes ball glove

Sweet looking glove. I wonder about the bat as well.

http://usa.hermes.com/house/sports/baseball-glove/homerun-baseball-mitt-41833.html

http://usa.hermes.com/house/sports/felt-and-leather-stole/homerun-baseball-bat-41826.html
Aug. 30, 2012
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: humidity

Fabe:

Interesting statement about humidity..if balls are dry and temperature etc are equal the ball flys A LONGER DISTANCE in higher humidity..?I know this in contrary to popular opinion but is scientifically proven. As players using the same ball inning after inning, we assume the ball flys a lesser distance because of the humidity in the air...It is actually caused the softer, heavier or wetter ball caused by picking up water.

Negating ALL other variables, a ball flys a greater distance in higher humidity than lower.

http://www.exploratorium.edu/baseball/howfar3.html
Aug. 29, 2012
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Ambush Review

BP60:

I believe bat warmers are illegal in ASA Senior ball.

Funny, in 95 degree heat in FL I see guys using them .... must be a reason and a reason behind the ASA ban.

If anyone can find the reason or the test that led ASA to the decision, please link it.

Thanks
Aug. 24, 2012
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Ambush Review

Alan:

I thought that ASA uses Advanced Break-in Techniques (rolling) before testing bats so they don't get "too hot" after break in.

I don't believe the other groups (SSUSA etc) break in bats prior to testing for 1.21 BPF. Am I correct about that?

If I am correct is it possible this bat, (and maybe others), would fail to meet those standards after "opening up"?
Aug. 19, 2012
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Ambush Review

Crusher :

Nobody said go back to the "good ole days". We did say technology deformed the game somewhat.

It is also interesting in your chronology you missed :

Double Wall bats
Titanium - Outlawed for too much technology
Miken Ultra - Outlawed for too much technology

I'm sure if you asked bat engineers, they could easily make bats perform plus 20-40% BUT there have been restrictions placed on the "technology"

The FACT that by shaving bats (a technology) makes a ball 10-20% further is why you are seeing "cheater" bats in the Senior game.

Its also why bat compression testers need to be accurate and used even at league level.

How many TX sized egos can take losing 10,20 even 60 feet from their blasts because of the effects of age. Hell if they use a little technology (even if outside the rules), they'll get it back.

Aug. 19, 2012
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Ambush Review

alan :

Shouldn't you clarify "for all SSUSA play" many senior leagues do NOT use 1.21 BPF bats or SSUSA rules.

I also thought ASA tests bats after advanced break-in to get their maximum number and your bat was tested another way (before break-in). Is it possible your bat would fail compression tests after "opening-up?

Again, just trying to clarify.

bkb55: you said "we use improved drivers and irons in golf, better bowling balls, better hockey stick and every other sport allows these advances."

Every instance you mentioned has put in regulations to limit technology.They have not allowed the advance of technology to go unchecked because it changes the game too much.
Aug. 16, 2012
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Ambush Review

Fabe wasn't trying to insult. Just was asking; would we still play the game with wood bats or that stinking yellow aluminum bat from the early 70's or Steeles or Bombats? How about Dudley ltd flight "blue dots" or those old "hot dots". Do we play the game for itself or something else.

crusher: ego is fine, trying to regain youth and deluding ourselves on our agelessness is silly. To respond in kind to your undeserved "grow up" statement ... GFY.

I do agree with this: "I have known hundreds of Senior Softball players and nearly all are great people that have a great time and give it all."

BTW: I'm 6'1" 195, played slow pitch for 38 years and know that I'm no where near the athlete I was years ago. That being said, I can still hit home runs with an Easton Stealth Speed (ASA)on 300-310 fence with 44/375 balls in 95 degree heat and humidity. (Hell, because of these bats, the ball goes further now than when I was in my 30's.)

Senior Mikens, Combats etc just make the ball come off quicker and go further. To me, the game is the key, whether Senior bats, wood or wiffle ball. For me, it's about competition and the sport itself. I'll try my hardest and play until I drop.

(Sorry if that attitude offends.)

Aug. 16, 2012
jfsully
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Ambush Review

Stig1 : "We have never gone backwards when it comes to bats from wood to metal to composite."

Ever hear of titanium or even original miken ultra? All banned and we went "backwards"

There have been limits placed and "technology" is NOT allowed to run rampant for a myriad of reasons. (safety being one)

There are limits such as b.p.f 1.21 etc.If two legal bats perform at maximum legally measured performance standards and are both "perfectly hit" at same speed and deflection, How can one outperform? You can theoretically increase the sweet spot and durability but how do you increase distance (bat/ballspeed) above whats legally allowed?

Shaving is a technology as well, are you insinuating that should be allowed?

For as much as gary19 gets slammed (and mostly deserves it), IMO he's right about this one...the bats are about ego. As the ravages of age take hold, it's not as effective to workout to gain strength and distance (or bat/ballspeed). We resort to technology to compensate for our diminishing skills.

Ego is why we use "hot" bats and why "cheater bats" (shaved, heated etc) are becoming more prevalent.

(PS: I'm not insinuating the ambush is a cheater bat.)


May 29, 2012
jfsully
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Talking Trash

Just a quick note. Bird was an extremely good slow pitch player during and shortly after his Indiana State University days.

If you ever noticed, his right index finger was crooked. It came from breaking in playing slow pitch in 1979.

(as most of us do, he set it himself)
Jan. 31, 2012
jfsully
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: League play HR rule

Just curious, how many of us have HR rules in local league play and what are they?

We have proposals for 3 per team then outs and 3 per team and a single for all other. Also the option of unlimited.

300 ft fence and 1.21 bats
Dec. 20, 2011
jfsully
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Out of the box idea for "courtesy runners"

A unique, serious unemotional idea on “courtesy runners”?

How about all players needing “courtesy runners” are designated before the game. Each individual requiring a “courtesy runner” shall be assigned a permanent runner BEFORE THE GAME.

Each assigned "courtesy runner" may be assigned to only one person in the lineup.

An assigned “courtesy runner” may NOT be used as a pinch runner for any other base-runner.

A player could only pinch run once per game.

(If you used a “rabbit” as a “courtesy runner”, he/she would be unable to pinch run in a crucial situation.)

If a player is injured during a game and unable to run, he/she may be assigned a "courtesy runner" for the remainder of the game or a new pinch runner each at bat.

This would keep the original purpose of the "courtesy runner" rule as well as negating overuse of the rule and, as importantly,the overuse of "rabbits" every inning. Managers would need to strategically set batting line-ups and decide whether to save their fastest runners for true crucial pinch running situations.

Thoughts?


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