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Sept. 9, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Baserunner Retreating


Section 8.3 of the SSUSA rulebook refers to the BATTER-RUNNER, which is different than a RUNNER.

BATTER-RUNNER is one that has completed his turn at bat, but has not yet been put out or reached first. At the moment the BATTER-RUNNER reaches 1st base he becomes a RUNNER.

This is how the rule WAS PREVIOUSLY WRITTEN (understanding the definition of Batter-Runner, it was technically correct)

H. When he moves back toward any base to avoid or delay a tag by a fielder. The ball is dead, the batter-runner is out and all runners return to the base occupied at the time of the pitch.

HOWEVER, the rulebook was cleaned up at the 2013 convention to reduce confusion on this point. The amended rule reads as follows:

H. When he moves backward toward home plate prior to reaching first base to avoid or delay a tag by a fielder. The ball is dead, the batter-runner is out and all runners return to the base occupied at the time of the pitch.

In the original post by OmahaChuck, the umpire incorrectly called the runner from 2nd out.

We should have had the batter-runner out at 1st base, and the runner who began the play on 1st now safe at 2nd base.

Hope this helps.
Sept. 4, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: WMC schedules

When will Session 1 be posted ?

Smile Dave! I'm just pulling youtr chain.... but you knew somebody was going to ask..
Aug. 12, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Maryland Last Chance Qualifier

The deadline for the Maryland Last Chance tournament has been extended until August 18th (next Monday).

Any team looking to participate in that tournament should contact Senior Softball directly.

Aug. 5, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Maryland Last Chance Qualifier

Maryland Last Chance Qualifier
August 28-31 in Frederick, MD

If your team is traveling to Las Vegas for the WMC and need to qualify any players for your roster, this is your "last chance" to do so.

August 28-29 (Thu-Fri)
Men's 65, 70, 75 division

August 30-31 (Sat-Sun)
Men's 40, 50, 55, 60 division
Women's 40, 50 division

Format- 4 game guarantee

Pinecliff Park (4 diamonds) and Ballenger Creek Park (3 diamonds) have been reserved for this tournament.

Host Hotels- Sleep Inn ($75) and Country Inn & Suites ($86). Both include breakfast with expanded dining hours for our group. Both hotels are less than 4 miles from the parks and within walking distance of shopping and dining. If booking rooms, do so quickly and ask for the SSUSA Maryland Last Chance pricing.

Registration deadline is August 13th.

What teams are planning to attend?

If you have any questions, I will be glad to help- send email to


June 28, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: over throw at first.

Hey Birdie-

In Senior Softball-USA (SSUSA, and most other organizations (ASA, ISA, NSA) the runner in your scenario would be awarded 2 bases from the last base achieved (he had 1st, and now gets 2nd & 3rd).

The rules in USSSA play would give the runner the base that he must retouch (1st) plus one additional base (2nd).

You are playing in Salem, VA this weekend... That park plays host to a number of USSSA tournaments during the year. If the ISSA / ISF tournament is using "local" umpires this weekend, this could be the source of your confusion.

Hope this helps-


June 10, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: RESULTS- CT Masters Games

Session 2 results

65 Silver
1. Socrates / Vios
2. Syracuse Cyclones
3. Bostonian Shoes
3. W. Mass Relics

70 AAA
1. Monkey Joe's Big Nut
2. Hannington's of.Mass.
3. Backoffice Associates
3.Boys of Summer

June 8, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: RESULTS- CT Masters Games

50 Platinum
1. Sports Center
2. Elmwood Sports Center

50 / 55 Gold
1. Deep Purple / Advantage
2. K&B Construction
3. Old Time Brothers

60 AAA
1. Hannington's 60s
2. Jersey Masters 60s
3. Pelley's Sports

60 AA
1. Talaga Masonry
2. Davy Byrnes
3. W. Mass Relics

Tournament was played at Sage Park (50 & 55) and Chesley Park (60s) over the weekend in New Britain, CT. Thanks to the staff at CT Senior Games and the interns that were on hand to support the tournament.

Session 2 of the tournament, featuring the 65 and 70s division will be played on MON / TUES at CT Sportsplex in N. Branford. Results will be posted on completion.


June 4, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Check in

I see a few different questions here- this is my take.

1) When should players check in?

All players SHOULD check-in by showing their ID to the site director prior to taking the field in any SSUSA tournament. Sometimes, there are multiple teams checking in at one time and the lines are long. In that circumstance, a site director may approve a team to check in after their first game.

sidenote: Speeding up the check-in process is why SSUSA asks that teams show up early for their first game, and check in as a team. For the purposes of discussion- 7:56am arrival, with an 8:00am start time is not considered "early"

2) Does SSUSA hold up games while a double rostered player finishes up a game with his "other" team?

No. Managers are responsible for having the required number of players present at game time (technically, 30 minutes prior to scheduled start time).

Games should not be held up on a field while a team waits for Sammy Superstar to arrive from another field. If you must- start the game and have Sammy enter as a substitute. OR, have Sammy be substituted out of his other game so that he can be a starter for this game.

June 4, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: RESULTS- Richmond Qualifier

Men's 50 AAA
2- ILA Fifty Plus
3- Outlaws / Time Bandits

Men's 55 / 60
1- Superior Softball
2- Beltway Bandits
3- ILA Fifty Five Plus

Men's 65 / 70
1- Hamel's / Superior
2- Carolina Blue Sky
3- Carolina Cardinals

Full results, game scores, brackets, etc are posted at

You can also find information about the Maryland Last Chance Qualifier that will be played August 28 - 31.

May 22, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Line up and batting order structure

I normally stay out of these kind of discussions, but wanted to throw a few thoughts out there for you to consider.

Playing 11 on defense suggests to me that your team is at least 70.

At 70+ you know that injuries and life altering circumstances (cancer, etc) are a reality. Every player on your roster has value, and should be treated as an asset. They put in time, money and effort.

Although not intentionally done, you just suggested the following:

I inherited this team from another guy and don't plan on keeping. everyone next year.

Batters 1-7 are my stars
Batters 8-11 are okay, but will be replaced if something better comes along.
Players 12-17 will be asked back only if needed.

From a distance, my advice is to re-think things. By playing your stars 100% of the time, you increase the chance for them to become injured or worn down. If they are truly stars, then they don't necessarily need extra at-bats or reps on defense. The guys with lesser skill will only improve with opportunity.

Good luck to you.
May 20, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Unusual play

All plays at home are considered a force play. Any runner that touches (or crosses) the commitment line while the catcher has control of the ball and is in contact with the mat would be called out.

There is no requirement for the catcher to step off of the mat and re-touch the mat to record the 2nd out on the play.

May 19, 2014
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: RESULTS- Atlantic Coast Championships

Results from the Atlantic Coast Championships, which were played in Loudoun County, VA last week are posted below. The official tournament paperwork has been sent to the national office.

75 Major
1) Hamel Builders
2) Syracuse Cyclones 75s

70 Silver
1) Syracuse Cyclones 70s
2) Boys of Summer

70 AAA
1) VaCar
2) Jersey Masters 70s
3) Monkey Joe's 70s

1) Hamels 65s
2) High Street 65s

65 AAA
1) Spicer's
2) Mid-Atlantic Cavaliers
3) Syracuse Cyclones 65s

1) Hannington's
2) Hamel's 60s
3) Steel Dawgs

60 AA
1) Talaga Masonry
2) Syracuse Cycones 60s

55 / 60 GOLD
1) Beltway Bandits
2) Sportsman Shop
3) Syracuse Merchants

55 Major
1) High Street 55s
2) Tri-State Merchants
3) Fat Nancy's

50 Major Plus
1) Bryson's Pub / Veltri
2) Mid-Atlantic
3) Sports Center

50 Major
1) Team USA
2) NE Storm
3) BH Maintenance

50 AAA
1) Elite / CC
2) THC Financial
3) MD Cougars

40 Major
1) Houck's Construction
2) Mid-Atlantic Elite 40s

40 Women's
1) Chill 40 Below
2) Lew's Crew
3) Sportsman Shop

THANK YOU to all teams that participated in the tournament.

May 16, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Atlantic Coast Championships

After receiving 4.5 inches of rain overnight, all games scheduled for FRIDAY have been canceled. We fully expect to play ball at both parks on Saturday.

All teams need to have a manager at the host hotel (DoubleTree) at 1pm today. At that time, we will announce the tournament recovery plan.

The weather communication plan was explained to all managers in attendance at the coaches meeting last night. Accordingly, we posted tournament related information on the Loudoun County Parks rain line (703-777-0456) by 6:15am.

April 24, 2014
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Maryland Classic

Start times and brackets were sent to coaches a week ago. They have also been posted at (as explained in the email to coaches).

Just 10 teams for this one, but that is to be expected as this was a replacement tournament after fields in Dover were closed for maintenance issues.

Looking forward to seeing some familiar faces this weekend.

March 4, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: 2 Rules that are somewhat unclear

Item 1-
The home team always has a chance to catch up, and (using your example) would take their turn at bat in the bottom of the 6th.

Item 2-
An inning that begins before time expires would allow a max of 5/7 runs. An inning that begins after time expires would be considered an "open" inning, and therefore allow teams to score as many runs as they can.

Feb. 9, 2014
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: TOC

Results from Loyce Harp / Carter Road Complex

40 Major
1. Homer Lovers
2. Loose Cannons

50 Major Plus
1. Team 1 Sports
2. TSC
(43-42 final in 8 innings)

55 Major
1. Kinnco Masters
2. Doubleplay / Monarch

65 AAA
1. Windsor Chiefs
2. Marauders

65 AA
1. Indiana Legends
2. Hill Contracting

Jan. 24, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call part 643


My response above was intended to discuss the scenario of a "foul tip" only.

In SSUSA play a foul tip (with less than 2 strikes) must have gone higher than the batter's head, and have been caught with the glove or hand(s) for an out to be recorded.

In the 2nd part of your most recent post, a one hopper to the shortstop is ground ball / live ball. The batter-runner and any runner(s) on base are free to run the bases with liability to be put out.
Jan. 23, 2014
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You make the call part 643

Section 1.29 FOUL TIP

A foul tip is a ball that goes directly from the bat, not higher than the batter's head, to the catcher's hand(s) or glove and is legally caught by the catcher. NOTE- Any batted ball that goes directly from the bat, not higher than the batter's head to any part of the catcher's body or equipment other than the hands(s) or glove is a foul ball and a dead ball.

1) For an out to be recorded, the batted ball must have cleared the batter's head (catcher's height is irrelevant) and be caught with the hands or glove

2) A batted ball that is caught or trapped in any location other than the hands or glove is considered a foul ball / dead ball.

Dec. 22, 2013
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Decals for Senior Softball USA


Are you talking about the window clings that would go on the back of your windshield? Similar to a university sticker?

shoot me an email at
Nov. 18, 2013
Topic: General and miscellaneous

55 AAA from Papago

1. Git R Done
2. Mountain Mike's Pizza
3. Rookies
4. Las Vegas Elks

I had a great time out in Phoenix calling games and seeing some familiar faces. Thanks all-

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