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Sept. 10, 2013
the wood
Topic: Product review
Discussion: Softball and hot weather!!

Tate22:
It is my understanding that the Rock MUST be used in the pending event in LV. Not because of popular demand but due to the merger/acquisition terms when SSUSA and LVSSA became one.
I do not recall how long this will/must be (# of years after this).
Personally, I like neither extreme... balls that are too lively and/or balls that are 'decompressed' in the heat.
Having a ball that is fairly consistent throughout the year (i.e. weather) would be more to my liking.

Safety? That isn't even on the table. Why it isn't is because, IMO, safety doesn't sell bats and it doesn't go far (over the fence). MD, no point in re-stating all of the properties of the 52/300 ball... not to me anyway. I understand where it would help as much as why it won't.

BW
Sept. 3, 2013
the wood
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Re: USA National Game Teams

Omar,
The same was/is true for us... we went to Cal Cup & could have just as easily gone to the WN (in lieu of Cal Cup).

Taits, the TOC is as irrelevant as the EN/WN events. Perhaps more so. It isn't the 3 months as much as it's the time of year (read = WINTER). In addition, your team may not have many of the guys who qualified with you.
Calling it TOC or EN or WN is easily done. Making it a real meaningful event seems to be much tougher.
BW
Sept. 3, 2013
the wood
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Re: USA National Game Teams

Sweet P:
I couldn't agree with you more. This weak gesture should have been made long before teams determined their schedule. I won't even speculate as to who is behind this.
Why not award the MLB World Series home field advantage to the team that plays an exhibition game in Sacramento? Equally weak.
I'm sure that you'd like to make the Eastern and Western Nationals relevant but it will take more than this.
BW

Sept. 2, 2013
the wood
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Official Retirement

Sparky, has anyone alerted the media yet? BW
Aug. 20, 2013
the wood
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: SPA HOF

Congratulations to Audie for being inducted into the Senior Softball HOF. I've known Audie for 6 years or so and find him to be one of the really, really good guys. It's never about him, it's always about the game or about his team (as opposed to himself).
I've served with him on committees and he was always pleasant, straighforward and knowledgeable. In addition he had a very clear idea of what it was that we were trying to achieve.
I can think of no one more deserving.
BW
Aug. 6, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Eastern National Championships 2013 updates

I stand corrected. Perhaps that is why there were no HRs hit (the lower starting point).
BW
Aug. 5, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Eastern National Championships 2013 updates

LL, I was referring to the CalCup last month. We/I weren't @ the West natls. BW
Aug. 5, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Eastern National Championships 2013 updates

There were zero HRs hit in our division
Aug. 5, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Eastern National Championships 2013 updates

Swing, when a Stote 44/375 is used in 90 degree heat it is really a 44/285. We played in the Cal Cup last month when it was 95 so we were using a 44/260 ball (in essence).
I'm not a ball salesman but, given a choice, I'd prefer a 52/300 over a down graded Stote.
But a Rock is a better choice yet.
BW
Aug. 5, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Eastern National Championships 2013 updates

Swing,
If your only two choices were a 52/300 and a 44/285, which ball would you prefer to hit?
Obviously, we are speaking hypothetically here. Therefore, brands are not important.
So which would you prefer?
BW
Aug. 1, 2013
the wood
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Has the game really been toned down?

Tim,
I thought that I did spell out the era that I was talking about by saying 30-35 years ago. Since this is now 2013, subtracting 30 and 35 from it would put us in the year 1978 to 1983.
More than 'very few' hit HRs during that span. But, as I said, there was a clear distinction between table setters and power hitters. Of the guys now playing senior ball (bear in mind I'm not talking about the 50 division) only a handful were deemed power hitters years ago.
I'm guessing that you're 12-13 years younger than me so our areas were different.
BW
Aug. 1, 2013
the wood
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Has the game really been toned down?

'The truth is that most senior players never hit a HR when they were younger'... based upon my experience, I'd have to agree with this in concept. I always felt that it was a pretty clear distinction between HR hitters and table setters (30-35 years ago).
At the risk of splitting hairs, I would substitute the word 'seldom' for 'never' though. Many table setters hit occasional HRs but it wasn't their primary objective.
As I read it, Kevin's point is really about the egos of senior players and how hitting HRs feed into that. It amuses me to watch guys who are not power hitters pretend to be one.
With 1.2 or 1.21 bats a guy with warning track power can now hit the ball 310'... and he'll waste several At Bats trying to do so.
BW
July 30, 2013
the wood
Topic: Bats
Discussion: need a white combat cent ,

MM,
Who could argue that Cleveland was the capitol of softball at one time? Isn't that where Tom Aldrich, World's Greatest Softball Fan, called home? He must have been, because he had a 'bowling shirt' with that inscription on it. The guy did know everyone and he did know the game.
Also, isn't that the home of Hillcrest Tavern?
:-)
Bob Woodroof
July 30, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Major Plus

'All major teams will be allowed 6 Major Plus players' and then eliminate the M+ division?

1) What would be SSUSA's motivation to do this? They had 450 teams (+ -) in LV last fall. The M+ divisions had enough teams to make it attractive for them. The M divisions were loaded with teams... AAA had even more. If you were an SSUSA partner would you mess with the golden goose?

2) The division between M & M+ has been there for 14 years now. Aside from USSSA (and now ISSA), the senior assns have maintained this split. We can all speculate as to why this is so but we can't deny that this is how it's been.

3) ISSA has experimented with the merger of M & M+ but I can't really comment on its effectiveness (we haven't played in any ISSA events since 2003). Before LVSSA and SSUSA merged (and SSWS went away) the top 4 events were the LVSSA, SSUSA, SPA and SSWS National Tourneys (IMO). I'm basing this on the M+ division and the criteria is the group of teams that attended (quantity and quality). ISSA was not one of those events from 2005-2009. It was 10-15 years ago though. One could guess that their motive to merge M/M+ is market share based... or... it could be that they wanted to increase bracket sizes. I'm not in a position to know the real answer. As an aside, SSUSA was the first assn to extend the deadline on 1.2 bats (taking a calculated risk) and this has worked well for them. Many of you were not aware that this occurred in 2004 or so. Coincidently, you can purchase any one of several senior bats from SSUSA's web site. Hmmm!

4) Lastly, the 'behavior of senior players' is such that eliminating M+ will most likely create a chain reaction of events such as the 'roster shuffling' previously mentioned. Again, why would SSUSA risk injuring its cash cow? When I say the behavior of senior players I'm talking about a strong majority but not every player.

These are just my feelings but they are based upon what I've observed over the past 16 years. It is my opinion that it would take a catastrophic event ($ driven) for SSUSA to do away with M+.
But... if I'm wrong about this (and I've been wrong many times before) one team that would benefit from such a change would be Ruth Realty (any of the Ruth teams currently rated as a M team). If you connect the dots you'll find that Bill Ruth owns part of SSUSA. It was Bill that felt that the FL & CA borders ought to be closed even though there was/is no compelling evidence to support this.

As Yogi Berra once said 'you can observe a lot just by watching'.
BW

July 25, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

Kandi,
I tried to reach you but your 'voicemail box was full'. If you wish to speak with me call me on my cell phone, 714 325-1017.
Bob Woodroof
July 22, 2013
the wood
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: surgery scheduled

Good luck to you!
BTW, who were the SPA winners?
BW
July 20, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

No, it wasn't Mark Schaeffer. He never played for Shubin's... just Capitol & Bemco.
Skip Young? He hasn't played in 25 years that I know about. The last I heard is that we was working for Ganahl Lumber in Anaheim.
Bull plays for the Nighthawks, still in great condition, still a force.
I do not know the whereabouts of any of the other guys.
Yes, I'd love to have one of the DVDs. My email address is awtgroupsc@aol.com
Tell your dad that I said 'hello'.
BW
July 19, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

Swing:
We played in Cal Cup, too, and it was a little cooler than when you played. Still, there were zero HRs in 3 days... not in our games, not in any games that I witnessed. So the Trump Stote ball is no box of chocolates.
The make up of the 52/300 ball is such that it doesn't lose its compression as 44/375 balls do.
I don't work with Kevin nor do I have any interest in sales of softballs of any type. But I do trust him.
I also know Mad Dog to be a straight shooter.
The things that are proponents of the 52/300 ball are...
injuries are less severe...
doesn't lose its compression in higher temps (when compared to 44/375)...
it seems to respond to almost all bats in the same way (cheater bats seem to have no advantage)...

Obviously, it has its downside, which you and several others have pointed out.
Bear in mind that I'm speaking generically, not about a particular brand.
How do I feel?
I would be OK if we went back to 47/525 and aluminum alloys. I'm ok staying with what we have. I don't really care. But traveling 500 miles to play in 95+ temps, with the Stote balls and having one other team to play won't work.
BW
July 19, 2013
the wood
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LVSSA 2007

KNDKCOOK:
I knew your father... played with him here and there. If I recall correctly, he was a catcher in the Pirate organization. We called him 'Opie Taylor' because of his hair cut. Since I'm from Orange County, I mostly played against Kent when he was on the Anaheim Merchants and Rodeo Room. One of his Rodeo Room teammates took up with my ex-wife and I was never able to properly thank him. :-)
I had several friends that played for Shubin's. Rick Wheeler and Ron Galvan come to mind as likely guys to have been on the '86 team.
I lost touch with Kent so I have no idea if he's still living or not. I knew that he had a bad back.
Bob Woodroof (Blinky's, Association, Capitol Insulation, Bemco)
July 16, 2013
the wood
Topic: Bats
Discussion: GSC bat

Jason,
I'm a bit confused on the production process. It seems that it was over 2 months ago that the P413 received its approval from Dr. Brandt's office.
Then GSC (and a few random players from other teams) used it in Reno. Then you recently mentioned that the production was/is delayed for 'a few finishing touches'. Are these merely cosmetic in nature or are they structural?
BW
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