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July 20, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ball Fair or Foul???

baseballbill....i dont know if that is possible
July 19, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ball Fair or Foul???

the rule says a fair ball is one that TOUCHES first, second or third base it does not say that the ball has to pass by the bag to be fair
July 18, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Ball Fair or Foul???

1st fair ball 2nd fair ball 3rd fair ball ......... 1.22 • FAIR BALL....A fair ball is a legally batted ball that: B. Bounds over or past first or third base, which is in fair territory, regardless of where the ball hits after going over the base.
D. Touches first, second or third base.
July 16, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner Hit by Batted Ball

Garocket I agree RULE 1.22 D that the ball is fair once it hits the base .....but I have been told many times from UIC's in SSUSA when a specific rule cannot be found look at ASA because their rule book is more specific. That is why I posted this..... ASA Section 8.....RUNNER IS NOT OUT...8 E. When a runner is hit with a fair untouched batted ball over foul territory that,in the umpire’s judgment no fielder had an opportunity to make an out. we'll see what STAFF says
July 16, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner Hit by Batted Ball

I stil believe this to be a fair ball once ball hits 3rd base even if balll does not pass it...ASA Section 8. RUNNER IS NOT OUT...8 E. When a runner is hit with a fair untouched batted ball over foul territory that,in the umpire’s judgment no fielder had an opportunity to make an out.
July 15, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner Hit by Batted Ball

STAFF thx but I cannot take the credit for this it was Garockets scenario but no one answered it...so i reposted it....and the actual scenario had nothing to do with ball bouncing back toward home plate what was written was batted ball hits 3rd base runner on 3rd jumps into foul territory the ball bounces back and hits him....what is the call I posted fair ball and was not sure if runner would be called out. but if the ball had not passed a fielder i would think he would be called out.
July 15, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner Hit by Batted Ball

RULE 1.22 D. Touches first, second or third base.....That is why I said I would call it a fair ball and then ball hitting the runner I just am not sure whether he is out for ball hitting him before it passes a fielder? or is it just a live ball?
July 14, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner Hit by Batted Ball

Garocket threw in an interseting scenario!!!!
Runner on 3rd ...Batter hits a shot down third base line that hits the bag... meanwhile the runner has jumped into foul ground, the fair ball that hits the base bounces back and hits the runner. I would say that since the ball hit the bag it is definitely a fair ball, assuming that the 3rd baseman is playing back the ball bouncing into foul territory and hitting the runner I would just call it a live ball and let the play go on????? SSUSA STAFF is that correct???
July 3, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: over throw at first.

Tim, great info. Thx. in a previous post the awarding of bases was an issue...I was mistaken on answer saying runner only got 2nd....I know where it came from I used to ump USSSA several yrs ago. It would be nice for SSUSA to come out with a more thorough rule book with explanations on scenarios, much like ASA does
June 29, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rules

yes...• COMMITMENT LINE - The Commitment line was moved to 30' from home plate (formerly 20') to bring the commitment line back into play following the migration of the base distance over the years from 60' to 70' .
June 29, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rules

Webbie, thats why it is called a commitment line...once a runner has passed it there is no return...If a runner after passing it does return to 3rd to tag up on a caught fly ball he should be immediately called out
June 13, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

yes...i also found it in ASA rules supplement no. 38 OVERTHROWS
June 13, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

Garocket...not in this case...he would only get 2nd because having to go back to tag up is considered 1 base. if he made it back to 1st base before SS released his throw then he would get 3rd
June 12, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

he is out on appeal
June 9, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

Garocket....you are correct...that is why tournament directors need to stay as tournament directors...there should always be a UIC available for umpire questions
June 8, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

STAFF: I dont understand....in this post you say that you are unwilling to stop the play with a Dead Ball call, but in your previous post you say that when the ball goes out of play it becomes a Dead Ball situation....which one is it?? My interpretation does not stop the runner from going back to 2nd in fact once a dead ball is called, the runner would automatically return to the last base he was ASSUMED to have touched...and from there the umpire would award bases.
June 8, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

the SSUSA rulebook doesnt always spell out different situations and many times i go back to ASA rule book. I decided to e-mail the Florida state UIC with this scenario. Matt. i have a question for you...Runner on 1st long fly ball right fielder runs back and catches the ball. The runner on first tagged up, however the defense is not sure and they start hollering throw it to first. The 2nd baseman
cuts the ball and throws toward 1st and over throws the ball into dead ball area. The runner at the time was between 2nd and 3rd. The next part of the
scenario was that the umpire saw the runner miss 2nd. Where do you place the runner? Here is his answer....

You are correct in your assessment that the runner is assumed to have touched the base once they pass the base unless properly appealed for missing a base. The appeal could be live ball or it could be dead ball after the award is given. The award would have been two bases from where the runner was at the point of the throw that wound up going into dead ball territory. In your case play, the runner was between 2d and 3d when the throw was released that went into dead ball territory. So, by rule the runner is awarded 3d and home. The runner may return to touch 2d after the ball is dead before moving to the bases that have been awarded but if they fail to do so, the appeal for missing the base can be made and enforced.... I understand this is ASA but it is the same rule for all slow pitch softball....I wish in this forum that when specific umpiring questions are asked their was a specific place where either a regional or state UIC would answer the question
June 6, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

STAFF...how do you as an umpire explain to the offense that the runner only gets 3rd i cant imagine the offensive manager not coming out and asking for an explanation why the runner did not get home....do you tell them the runner missed 2nd? then the defense hearing this would make an appeal for an out?
June 6, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: One base or two?

STAFF...i agree with Garocket a runner is always assumed to have touched the base he is going to...it is up to the defense to appeal him missing the base if no appeal he should have been awarded 3rd and home
May 10, 2014
B.J.
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: STAFF bat knobs

Bogie-class hitter....lol im hoping for out of the infield
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