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Jose Castro

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Edgemont, PA

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Men's 60

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Dec. 21, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: February Tournament of Champions Polk County

It does get confusing, we won 60AAA in Ft. Myers in Nov of 2010. However we don't get to go to TOC until Feb. 2012. Who knows how many from the original roster will still be with the team.

What if you don't play with the team the next year. Are you still on the roster and eligible for the 2012 TOC? How many players can you pick up? Who can you pick up?
Dec. 13, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: softball player or not

Birdie, Omar and the others who responded to this post, I agree. I'll continue playing no matter what equipment. I do however, agree with Birdie that I prefer the way it's played now in SSUSA and so do my teammates.

I can tell you, and Birdie and Mr. Manassas will concur, that the senior bat/ball combo draws the larger turnout, at least in our area of the country.

My team will go where there is the best competition. That appears to be the senior bat tournaments. We haven't been to an ASA tourney in years.

We are OK with the single/double wall for leagues, but not really for tourneys. If the non senior bat tourneys start attracting teams we may consider them. But, for now, we like it as it is.
Dec. 6, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: Bats
Discussion: ONE MORE TIME

Einstein, Salio2k is right. We are all not so fortunate to play leagues with senior bats. All the local Pa and De leagues are single wall.

The DeMarini White (Gray, Maroon)is the best I've found. I also have one of the old TPS bats but not sure if it's double wall.
Dec. 4, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

I actually play in a snowball tournament every Feb. with a young guys team. Last year was the first time there was actually snow on the ground. There was about a foot of it. It actually brought all the young guys down to my speed. Not sure I'd do it again, although it was fun diving to the bases.
Dec. 4, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

You'd like it if it was 20 degrees outside and snow piled on the ball fields.
Dec. 4, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Zonk, I agree with Ken, Palmyra/Hershey facility is much better, but an hour further from me.
Dec. 4, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

We use old wood bats, it feels like swinging a tree. Omar it's a game that certainly brings back defense and base running. the fence (actually a plastic/material barrier) is a bout 215-22o feet. Because the ceiling is so low, I've ony seen a hand-ful of HR's in three years. Sounds like you're kind of game (lol).
Dec. 3, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Omar, we play in an indoor facility that also has soccer. We actually play in an arena that has three basketball courts. We use wood bats and the floor is rubberized. The side walls are in play but any ball hitting the ceiling is an out. Low scores with a lot of ground balls.

There is also a facility in Hershey Pa. that is a converted airplane hanger that has astro-turf (or something similiar). More room and you are able to swing away a little easier.

Cold weather calls for ingenuity, not like outside, but beats staying at home.
Dec. 3, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

You are lucky living in a year round warm weather environment. I do play indoors in Jan-March, but it's not the same. Fall leagues end in November and except for a few die-hards hitting when it gets to 40, nothing until April.

Looks like batting cages for a while.
Dec. 3, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Amen to that, that's why our team will only travel to tournaments where there is a good bat/ball combination. We get enough of the single wall/dead ball in leagues.

A few years ago in the Senior Olympics in Pittsburgh, they used ASA bats but very good ball (I think it was a 47 core ball) and that was fine.

I have hit the old 52-275 balls and didn't like them, but that's just me.
Dec. 2, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Omar, that is what I have been saying, that except for one Sunday league, (which is basically made up of tournament players)all the leagues around are either wood bat or single wall. That is fine because of the discrepency in age and talent levels. However if you play tournaments, the levels are more equal.

I guess your experiences are different from mine, because I have not spoken to one tournament player who left the game because of the senior bats.

I hope you find what you are looking as you seem as fond of the game as me. It's hard to play 360 plus games a year in my area. But if it's 40 degrees or more I'll travel an hour just to hit with some buddies.

Take care, Jose
Dec. 2, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Omar, the better defensive teams are simply that, whether playing with wood bats or Mikens. In fact I think good defensive players are more valuble with the senior bats as there is more ground to cover.

With wood or single wall bats, the outfieders have to cover far less room.

I'm not questioning your research, it's just that I haven't heard that from tournament players I'm in contact with (maybe league players).


Dec. 1, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Einstein is right, Omar is hard to dislike even when you disagree with him.

But....Omar....I do disagree that composite bats are why numbers are diminishing. I also disagree that the composite bats lessen the need to play good defense.

Even at the major+ level you don't see HR derbys. The best teams I've seen at any level also play good D., run the bases and hit consistantly.

The majority of league players (senior and open)don't play tournaments. It has always been a different breed who were willing to spend money and anger wives to beat themselves up for a weekend.

I think percentage wise a bigger portion of seniors play tournaments that the young guys. I'd like to see some studies on that.

I agree the bat costs have escalated, unless like some I play with use others bats. Our bats, however are cheaper than the young guys bats.

Until I see some scientific research I won't belive a drop in senior sofball is caused by senior bats.
Nov. 30, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Omar, don't you think that the young people have so many more options, other sports, entertainment, etc. that keep them from softball. I find it hard to believe they don't play because of the composite bats. A lot of younger players have only known composite bats and wouldn't even know what metal bats were like. So how could they yearn for a more balanced game.

Most of the open league/tournament top players/teams use worked bats close to what we use anyway. I don't believe people wont play because of the equipment.

Just my opinion based on my experiences.
Nov. 30, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Omar, Gary C, I'm not sure what constitutes overwhelming majority as some explain it.....but, last year SPA posted an on-line questionaire for the members to take. A large percentage (75-80% to the best of my memory)chose to stay with the senior bats and 44-375 balls.

That seems pretty definitive to me. Like others, I don't feel I have the right to legislate what others like to play, I just want the option to continue playing as I like it.

Someone else on this thread mentioned that any drop in senior ball resulted, in their opinion, as a result of the hot equipment. I believe it's because less young guys are now playing, thus staying for senior ball. The open leagues in my area, as well as number of players have dwindeled in the past 20+ years.

Even at my age (64) I get calls constantly, because they can't get 10 players. That, in my opinion has more to do with what some see as shrinking numbers with seniors, although I haven't seen it in my area.

This is, however, a great topic and gives an opportunity for all to view their specific preferences.

Unfortunately, there are only a small minority of senior playeers who post on this board. No one else from my teams post and only a few even follow this board. There needs to be a larger sampling of our fellow players.
Nov. 28, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Gary, I have always been a decent average hitter who looked for holes, lines etc. With the advent of senior bats (plus senior outfielders) I swing away more and just try to hit it hard, not specifically placing the ball.

I may accidently hit one or two a year out so it's not the power but the fun of hitting it really hard.

The outcome of our game may have been the same, but not as fun for me or the others.

To each his own, not putting down ASA or metal bats, but for me, it's not as enjoyable.

Birdie...we played the Cavs on the sun field, there were numerous strikeouts because the sun was directly in the batters face. I think we won 8-6 on a couple of bloop hits.
Nov. 28, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Who'd a thunk...

Hello Omar, we seem to be debating this topic once again.

There appears to be a perception on this board that only home run hitters want to keep the senior bat/ball combo as it is now.

That is not necessarily true. My 60 AAA team just won the Winter Nationals in Ft. Myers. We went 7-0 and hit just three homers(two came with a 20 mph tailwind).

We hit consistantly, singles, doubles and triples, got great pitching and we played excellent defense turning over 12 double plays.

We all enjoy playing with the senior bats. Unlike Fl. and California (maybe other states) all our leagues are basically single wall bats. To be honest it gets boring. I understand why some leagues use this because the ages range from 60-80.

Our leagues have not really grown either, so the use of senior bats plays no role. The exception being a Sunday morning league in South Jersey that does use the senior bats and it's by far the most popular league in the Tri-State area.

Again by continually reading the differing opinions of the posts on this site, there should be enough people to participate in both types (senior and non senior bats)of tourneys/leagues.

I love using the senior bats and am far from being a home run hitter.

Jose, Stahl Post 60-65's
Nov. 21, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: interesting reading

Harry I agree with you. I know our team prefers hitting with the senior bats and we are far from a power team.

In winning the 60 AAA's in Ft. Myers, we hit three HR's in 7 games (2 of those with a 20 MPH tailwind).

Jose
Nov. 21, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 60 AAA

Thanks Harry, we got a little lucky with the way a lot of the good teams eliminated each other. As for Major, not sure about that.

Anyway I think the 60 team is putting me out to pasture and leading me to the 65's.

Jose #24 Stahl Post 60's and 65's
Nov. 6, 2010
Jose #12
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Combining Divisions

The restructuring of the age groups, and possibly the move to three divisions is OK. However I strongly disagree on the bat/equipment change.

I play 60 and 65 AAA and enjoy utilizing the senior bats. The lesser bat concept is OK for league play, but not for tourneys. Omar and I have discussed this several times on the board.

Wood bats, single walls may be necessary for leagues where there are larger age gaps and skill levels, but my team chooses to use the best bats/balls when we travel.

Each age group and level is fairly competitive. If major/major plus can use senior bats playing each other, what is the difference in that or AAA's playing each other.

If and when teams don't attend SSUSA events (162 teams at the Winter Championships in Ft. Myers), then maybe this discussion would be more relavent. Until then, let those of us who like the rules the way they are, enjoy them.

It is possible on this board to have differences in opinion without attacking others.
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