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Nov. 17, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: ASA to change mound distance

If they are considering 4', it would have to be like USSSA and that is that it would have to travel a minimum of 4' up from the point of release. Unless you have a pitcher that can really get low on their delivery that would still fall in the 6' to 12' range. 15' is way to high.

A 53' rubber would be alright by me. Most pitchers I see just pitch the ball and stand there anyway. No backward movement.
Nov. 16, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: What do you think about a 10' arc.

Hi Gary. Not sure the 10' limit is the answer. I find that many more umpires do not call the high pitch and see a lot of pitchs going 13 to 14 ft high. Some umps seem to have no ceiling. The other thing that I find frustating is when an umpire can't get the illeagal pitch call right. Some just forget and call it a ball, some call it too late and some you can bearly hear (not so unusal considering the hearing loss). The 12' limit works well with the umps that get it.
Nov. 4, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Bashbro1 Crunches the SSUSA Adjoining State’s Population Numbers!

Good work Bash. I have to believe that the sunbelt state numbers are skewed even higher when you factor in the much larger senior population. FL, CA, AZ, TX, NV would surely have an even greater pool from which to draw.
Oct. 13, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ilegal pitch call.

Southern Leather: The umpire must call "illegal pitch" on the way in. We consistantly have problems with this call. For some reason, they forget to call it or call it too late just as the ball is getting to you.

No one has answered my original question however. If a batter swings and misses at an illegal pitch, is it a strike? The umpire said the batter had to make contact with the ball. Anyone that has an ASA rule book, please look this one up. Thanks.
Oct. 11, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Watch out for Bestbats on Ebay

Hi Captain. Ebay has a resolution department and you should be able to get a full refund from them. I bought a bat earlier this year that was not as advertised and after not being able to resolve it with the seller, Ebay gave me a 100% refund.
Oct. 10, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ilegal pitch call.

Was playing a league game (ASA) this weekend. Umpire called an illegal pitch (too high) and the batter swung and missed the ball. The umpire called it a ball saying that on an illegal pitch, the batter must make contact for it to be a strike. I have never heard this before. Is the call correct?
Sept. 6, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Ultra II

RG: FYI, the original Ultra ll has an ASA stamp on it. You cannot buy that one new anymore but can find some used ones on e-bay. That one is much more durable than the second generation Ultra ll s or the Advanced and I beleive it has more pop.
Sept. 6, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: The price of winning....

T-Rex. I agree with you on believing 50% of what you read and hear these days. Everyone seems to have an adgenda to promote.

One thing we seem to be leaving out of the picture is the size and ability of todays athletes from Little Leaguers up through Seniors. They are all bigger stronger and faster. The training is way better. You never used to see Seniors in the gym. Now when I go, half of them are over 50.

Did you see the size of some of those 12 year olds? Some of the plays they made would have made any Major League player proud. I think this has a lot to do with more homers and harder hit balls.
Sept. 6, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: The price of winning....

Here is a link to USA baseball and Little League's stand on this issue. There is not one shred of evidence to support a ban of bats and little league does not support any type of ban.

Please take the time to cut and paste or simply type this link into your browser. I think it will shed some light on the misconceptions I see posted here.

http://www.littleleague.org/media/USAB_Youth_Committee_Statement.asp
Sept. 5, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: unlimited arc

If memory serves me correctly, ASA tried this for a year or 2 back in the late 70's. It was universally hated by everyone except pitchers and promptly done away with. I'm not sure how this would have any impact on the bat "controversy" other than having fewer well struck balls.
Aug. 26, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Aluminum U2 ???

The first DeMarini Doublewall was a monster of a bat. This was the bat that started the whole bat revolution with the manufacturers trying to one up each other. It was an aluminium bat.
July 2, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: U2 Handles

We already have a guy in that Whitehouse that butchers the english language. Do we really want another? LOL. Keep the posts coming Stoneman. I love them.
June 27, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: TECH' INFOR on COMPOSITE BATS & REACTION TIME.

Gary19: You are right that the composites have a larger sweet spot but again, for the vast majority of senior players, it makes very little difference. Most of the chatter on this board comes from those very serious players for whom the senior composites can and do make a difference but I don't think we can tar all of senior softball with the same brush. The many and varied suggested rule and equipment changes we see on this board are put out there by a very small number of serious players. The average softball player doesn't give a hoot. Hell, most of them don't know what bats are legal and what are not. Many of them don't really know the rules.

I normally fall on your side of the issues as I hate to see all of the silly changes to the game and the middle is always open in my book. However, the composites are here to stay. It's all about the MONEY.

I'm all for going back to wood bats when golf goes back to persimmon woods and when tennis goes back to the small racquet.

I too noticed that the study that Stoneman mentions, compares wood bats with composites. Not a good comparison.
June 27, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: TECH' INFOR on COMPOSITE BATS & REACTION TIME.

Gary 19. As I stated in my earlier post, I have played for over 35 years and I honestly don't think there are any more HR's hit today than when I first started playing.

Even using a U2, you still have to hit the ball perfectly to get it out. If you look at the big picture, 98% of senior softball players cannot hit a ball over a 300' fence. I play in a league with over 200 senior players and I can only think of 4 or 5 that can hit it out on an occasional basis. Consequently, pitcher reaction time and excessive HR's are not a big issue.

What skews everyones perception is that when you get to the bigger tournaments, you are looking at the cream of the crop of senior players. Guys that were always the better players on their teams in their younger days. The other thing that everyone overlooks, is that hopefully as you get older, you become a better hitter. I took me about 25 years, but I finally learned how to generate power in my swing.

So, in closing, I don't think it's the bat, it's the batter. You still have to hit the ball.
June 25, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: TECH' INFOR on COMPOSITE BATS & REACTION TIME.

Stoneman, this is great information. My question is why is there no body of evidence to show that more batted ball injuries are in fact occuring as a result of the composite bats. I haved played a ton of softball in the last 35 years and have not personally seen an increase it nor have I heard about it. I recently had the opportunity to talk to one of the heads of one of the Senior Softball organizations and posed the same question. The answer was that they are not seeing any increase in batted ball injuries.

If you have information to show that the number of batted ball injuries has increased significantly as a result of the composite bats, I would love to see it. I'm sure it would put to rest a lot of the bickering and debate on this board.

I'm not advocating for or against composite bats but until someone can can bring some hard batted ball injury statistics to the table, they're here to stay.
June 15, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: ASA BATS

Hey Lefty. We play ASA league and I have a couple of bats that I think are very good.

2007 Easton CNT Flex. I swing a 27 oz. It is a very durable, balanced bat with lots of pop. Big sweet spot.

2007 Mayhem M7 98. I have a 28 oz that feels slightly endloaded. Great pop!! Again a pretty big sweet spot.

Tried the black Senior Rip It. Did not like it at all.

I have not read any reviews yet but am trying a 2008 Miken Recoil this weekend.
June 13, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Speeding up the game

Jawood, a good USSSA pitcher can throw some very unhittable stuff. I'll give you an example. On 5/25 there was a Men's Major (youngsters) tourney in NC. I think you would agree that these are the best hitters in softball at this leval. Here are some of the number of runs scored on the losing end.

1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8. These games were dominated by the pitchers with some very good D behind them.

I know you will not see this kind of pitching in Senior ball but your premis that's it's just underhand is way off when it comes to a real good USSSA pitcher.
June 12, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Speeding up the game

Einstein and Lefty, I have to disagree with you on this one. I pitched USSSA for years and pitched for a youngsters team until I was 55.

From a pitchers perspective, I love the 1 and 1 count. From a hitters perspective, It puts you at an immediate disadventage. With the 3 ft arc, a good pitcher can throw a strike that literally barely gets above your knees at the high point of the pitch. Keep in mind that the 3 ft arc is from the point of release so if you are releasing from close to the ground, it can be a very difficult pitch to hit. I also don't think it sped up the game that much.

I think we sometimes lose perspective of the fact that the vast majority of senior players reside at "recreational" level of play and for most of them, it is all about hitting and waiting for the best pitch to hit.

By the way, I used to love it when guys tried to shoot the middle, even on purpose, because 90% of the time, they were out.
June 7, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: SAFETY in SOFTBALL

Maybe we should all take up golf.

Here is a list of the most dangerous sports in 2005 according to the Consumer Product Safety Commission. These are the injuries reported in that year. I wouls add that there were 740 deaths in 2005 from ATV accidents (1/3 of which were children under 16)

The Top 15:

Basketball: 512,213
Bicycling: 485,669
Football: 418,260
Soccer: 174,686
Baseball: 155,898
Skateboards: 112,544
Trampolines: 108,029
Softball: 106,884
Swimming/Diving: 82,354
Horseback riding: 73,576
Weightlifting: 65,716
Volleyball: 52,091
Golf: 47,360
Roller skating: 35,003
Wrestling: 33,734
May 18, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Does your team pick tournaments they think they can win, or do you try to go to the tournaments with the most teams?

Hi Audie. Just curious. Do the players pay their own travel and lodging expenses or does the sponsor cover some of those? I think the expense of traveling that much is what deters most teams from attending that many tournaments.
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