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Jan. 19, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How many batted ball injuries can you attribute to U2 bats?

Thanks again for all the comments and feedback.

hornachec (Jim) I just sent you an e-mail with my phone #. Give me a call.

Jim 16: Great post. I will use this ammo when they come back and try to BS us, which I know they will do.

This whole ASA safety issue is crap. ASA still allows metal cletes in their men's division. I guess it's ok to slice someone open with your cletes, it's only a flesh wound.


Jan. 18, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How many batted ball injuries can you attribute to U2 bats?

Thanks for all the input guys.

GT I'm with you on this one. I was always under the assumption that the umpires provide a service and do that at the pleasure of the league and the players. It appears that this ASA umpire has taken the position that it's not a negotiable subject. Unfortunately, they are the only game in town and unless we want to provide our own umps we are S.O.L

Texas T. you make a good point. We have a wide range of ages and skill levels in our league. Most of the guys are not power hitters but still like to U2 when allowed.
Jan. 18, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How many batted ball injuries can you attribute to U2 bats?

Taits: To answer your question, there are 8 set teams and the new guys are put into a draft. We have had to educate the umps on the senior rules. We play SSUSA rules.

Gary 19: One of the reasons we want the U2's and the like is that the guys that play in the U2 approved tournaments want to be able to swing the same bat in league as we swing in tourneys. The other reason is that it really brings some joy into your life to be able to hit the occasional HR that you may not be able to hit with the ASA bats. It makes you feel young again.

I just don't buy the injury excuse. I don't know how ASA can say it is an insurance issue if there is no evidence to show that there are actually more injuries caused by the hotter bats. There were 120 teams in the SSUSA worlds in Seattle last year and I didn't see or hear about 1 injury from a batted ball.

If ASA would just say they really want to limit the number of HR's, I would buy that reason.
Jan. 18, 2007
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How many batted ball injuries can you attribute to U2 bats?

Our league is ASA. We have a 12 team senior league here in Spokane WA and are trying to get them to allow U2's, Senior Combat and the like. As expected the first thing out of the head ASA umpires mouth was "no way, too many injuries from these hot bats".

How many injuries have you personally witnessed as a result of a batted ball off one of these bats? Not bad hops, just injuries that occured as a result of the ball getting there so quick as to be unplayable and cause injury.

Is there any documented body of evidence to show that the number of batted ball injuries has gone up as a result of the high tech bats? If so, I would like to know about it.

Thanks



Dec. 17, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: I need to get a grip

Hi batguyaz. The batting gloves will help with the bat. Keep in mind that you want to have a very loose grip on the bat. Just enough grip to keep it from flying out of your hands on the follow through. Loose grip = more bat speed. Try the old rosin bag for throwing. It might help.
Dec. 14, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: EBAY buyers beware.

Hi Stattad. As soon as I get the 25% refund, you can bet I will be providing lots of negative feedback. Want to get some money back first.
Dec. 14, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: EBAY buyers beware.

Thanks for the suggestions Bruce and Bogie. I was looking for a first generation U2. Mine held up for 3 years under heavy use. The new U2's have a reputation for breaking fairly fast. The one I bought was advertised as having been used in only 4 games. Otherwise I would not have purchased it.

Looks like I will be looking at the new Ultra 2 Advanced or the Senior Combat.

Dec. 13, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: EBAY buyers beware.

Just settled for a 25% refund. That means I paid $125 for a broken down U2. I would have gladly paid the $165 for a supposedly nearly new one.

I'm pretty sure this was a one time bat sale for this seller. Nothing else they are selling at this time is sports related. That should have been another clue.

Sellers ID is mellobunny75 for future reference.

Never too old to learn.
Dec. 13, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: EBAY buyers beware.

Thanks Taits and Jolly. Am still trying to get a decent settlement. The bat is a piece of shit. Heavily used. Seller has offered a 20% refund. I want to just send it back.

Jolly you are exactly right. I did not have a paypal acct setup and just didn't want to do it right then. I normally use my AMEX for everything for just this reason. I never stop learning.
Dec. 13, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: EBAY buyers beware.

Hi Taits. I am trying to get the seller to refund my money. I am going thru ebay resolution center to do this. Ebay does have a policy whereby if the seller won't make it right you can get some money directly from them if you really get screwed.

I will keep you posted.

Bashbro. What's up? I know, I know. I tried to be careful by asking the seller specific questions about the bat and thought all was good. Turns out she was selling it for a "friend". I want you to know that I have been at the gym hitting the weights regularly since the SSUSA worlds. I can only to hope to have your pop someday. Trying to double the number of HR's and increase the BA next year. That would put me from 1 to 2 HR's. LOL
Dec. 12, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: EBAY buyers beware.

I just got f***ed on EBAY. Bought a used Ultra 2 with the 2000 ASA sticked on it. Seller said it was only used for 4 games. Photos looked OK. When it arrived it looked as bad as my cracked U2 that I used for 3 seasons. The photos did not show the knob. The paint was totally worn off. There were 4 small cracks at the end of the bat. I specifically asked the seller if there were any cracks.

Do yourself a favor if you are buying on ebay. Ask the seller lots of questions. Even then, there is no guarantee you won't get screwed.

I have asked the seller to make it right. If not I will go through ebay for negotiations. A last resort will be to ask ebay to ban the seller.

Another lesson learned. I will disclose the seller if they do not make this right. Stay tuned.
Dec. 8, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Is it better to use a heavier or lighter bat?

Gentlemen, thank you all for the great information. After reading all the posts, I am going to try an end-loaded bat and stick with it for a while.

Thanks again.
Dec. 7, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Is it better to use a heavier or lighter bat?

Thanks for the info and thanks for the invite Stoneman. Wish I could get down but I'm stuck up here in the cold North.

Don't know why the message board crammed my whole post together. I had lots of paragraph breaks. Sorry for the confusion but everything after HITTING TIPS came from Ray DeMarini and not from me.

I currently use a 28 oz balanced U2. I have tried many EL bats over the years and just cannot get used to them. I have occasional power (hit 15 out last season) and hit for good avg. but just have not been able to find that consistent power stroke. With the EL bats, I always feel like I am behind on the swing. I know a lot of it is mechanics with me.

Looking forward to next year.



Dec. 7, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Is it better to use a heavier or lighter bat?

I have seen that a few of the guys on the board, Stoneman, Bruce in GA use a 30 or 31 oz bat.
I am 61 years young, 6ft 2in. and 220 lbs and think I am fairly strong but swing a 27 or 28 oz bat.

According to most of what I have read, you can swing all thase bats at about the same speed but where the big difference comes in is at contact.

This a long post but what follows is an old study done by Ray DeMarini who was a proponent of using lighter bats.

HITTING TIPS FROM Ray DeMarini
These tips were posted by Ray on DeMarini Sports\\\' website when he was still alive.

Letís get started. Subject - what weight bat to use. I have done lots and lots of scientific testing relating to hitting a softball. I have become a proponent of using light weight bats and hereís why:

Using myself as an example - I generate approximately 95MPH bat speed with my 26 ounce bat. I can generate just about the same 95MPH speed using a 29 ounce bat. You would logically think that I should use the 29 ounce bat, no question. I can swing it as fast and the added mass will allow me to hit the ball farther than with the 26 ounce bat. Logic in this case is dead wrong!

The important part of the equation that isnít considered in the above comparison is relative bat speed immediately after the ball has left the bat. In other words, how much of my initial 95MPH speed was I able to maintain while hitting through the ball. Here are the facts. I swing both at 95MPH just prior to hitting the ball. With the 26 ounce bat, my bat speed immediately after the ball is hit goes down to 56MPH! With the 29 ounce bat, my bat speed goes down to 49MPH! In other words, with the heavier bat, Iím swinging it fast but cannot push the bat through the ball and maintain as much speed as I can with the lighter bat.

Before we even take this subject much further I think it is crucial to stop and realize the incredible fact that I lose that much speed from hitting a 6.5 ounce ball. It simply amazes me. I have a pretty good follow through, I am extremely strong and have a decent swing ... and I lose all that speed when I hit the ball. I have tested lots of hitters; it is a constant. You lose a lot of speed when you hit the ball.

If you really think about it, what separates the true power hitters from the mere mortals is their ability to maintain bat speed. Compare my stats to that of a truly great player. Iíll reference Larry Carter, one of the most awesome distance and power hitters Iíve ever seen (and Iíve seen most all of them!) Larry weighs 260lbs+ and is in great physical condition with a vicious swing and scary strength. He can squat over 600lbs, bench 485lbs. and military press 275lbs. (easy)! You get the message. Larry is strong! He is dedicated and a great, great banger. Compare his bat speed to mine. Itís the same at 95MPH. Larry uses a 31 ounce bat ... I use a 26 ounce. So why does he hit the ball over 100 feet farther than I do? Simple ... his speed during contact with the ball.

Larry has the highest Ďafterí speed I have recorded. I finish at 56MPH, Larry finishes at 89MPH. In other words, Larry literally loses NO bat speed while powering through the ball. Larry shouldnít go down in weight! He isnít losing any speed with the 31 ounce ... thereís no need to go lighter. The question is can YOU? If you went with a lighter bat than you now use, would you pickup Ďfinishingí speed, and therefore distance? Try a friend\\\'s lighter bat and give it a fair chance. Take the time to know what works for you. Donít swing 5 times and say, no, not for me. Give it 100 swings. See if your follow through seems more efficient. Note what is happening with the ball.

What I am really trying to get across to you is crucial to hitting performance: you MUST have an efficient and complete follow through with your swing. You must think acceleration through the ball. Go right directly through the ball. Donít give up your swing the second you feel the ball hit the bat ... in fact, thatís when you have to swing hardest! And give some thought to your bat weight. Make sure you give yourself full chance to be as good as you can!




Nov. 29, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Rip-It(black), Senior, ASA Bat

Lecak is right on. Our senior league is ASA (unfortunately). That's the only reason for anyone to have an ASA bat in their bag. With the original Freak being banned next year in ASA, I will be looking at the Senior Rip It.

I currently swing a Synergy CNT Flex in league. For an ASA approved bat, it has great pop and in my humble opinion, is the best ASA bat available.

Haven't tried the Senior Combat yet. May give it a go when my U2 breaks.
Nov. 28, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Can't trust Anaconda

I just bought a U2 on ebay. I purchased a lightly used one with the ASA 2000 sticker on it. Paid $175. These older U2's hold up much better than last years no warranty ones. My first U2 lasted 3 years before breaking at the end Sept. I have never been burned on ebay yet.
Nov. 24, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: Associations
Discussion: BAR CODE !!..........

Einstein, there you go again. As the SSUSA staff said in a previous post, anonimity on this board is perfectly acceptable. If people want to put sophmoric comments on this board, it's ok. Just ignore them.

What will you do if you finally figure out who the offensive posters are? Get their phone number and call them? Confront them personally at the next tournament? Call them a coward a loser and a terrorist? Punch them out? Maybe you need to look in the mirror to see if you have an anger management problem.

Anyway, I really hope you find it in your heart to forgive their transgressions.

Peace and happy holidays to all.


Nov. 22, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: Associations
Discussion: BAR CODE !!..........

Hey Cat. I too see it happening much more often but I don't think this is the answer to the problem. Just too costly and cumbersome to implement. And, I'm not really sure it is a problem. I know there are a lot of guys that want to play a lot more than their core team does and consequently play for more that one team.

SSUSA used to enforce a policy whereby once you played in a qualifer, the roster for that team for future SSUSA events was frozen. Not sure if they still do that.

There are many reasons players change teams but as long as they are playing in their proper ranking, ie, a Major player not dropping to AA, it think it should be alright. Maybe a manager release form would suffice.

To my friend Bashbro 1. I know it's been raining a lot in the Northwest but you really need to get outside a little more. :-) Let me know as soon as you swing one of the new Ultras. I'm curious about the new grip.
Nov. 4, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: This is hilarious. Some new protective gear for pitchers ??

This guy must be a little crazy. Good for a few laughs.

Copy and paste the link below into your browser.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrkSNE_amIE&mode=related&search=
Oct. 28, 2006
Hit the gap
Topic: Bats
Discussion: SUSPENSIONS for Using an ILLEGAL BAT:

Tater, you have got to be kidding. I know what every guy on my team swings. Always have. I cannot imagine that a manager or player would not know what guys are swinging. It's simple curiosity. I pick them up and swing them. If they feel good and I see that they have some pop I may want to get one.

Some responsibility must be put on the manager. What's wrong with every manager taking this issue and addressing it with his team?
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