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Dave (Mango) Meggison

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Men's 50

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May 20, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 5 runs or 11 fielders

Dancer,
If you have a choice and want to take equalizers-always take the runs. Good luck.
May 19, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 5 runs or 11 fielders

Dancer,
When a 50 major plus team plays a 50 major team the major team gets potentially 4 equalizes.
1. They get 5 runs or 11 defensive players.
2. They play the lower teams runs per inning from 7 to 5
3.They play the lower teams home run rule with DBO
4. If the lower team takes the 5 runs they also are allowed to score 6 runs in an inning while the more talented team is restricted to 5.

To answer your question about the case where a team plays a team two classes above they get the 11 fielders and the runs as well as the other equalizes mentioned above.


May 18, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 5 runs or 11 fielders

Benji,
Please don't be disappointed. I wasn't advocating for less skilled teams to take equalizers. I was merely agreeing with Jawood that the lesser skilled teams aren't just receiving "an" equalizer, but a basket of equalizers. Their runs per inning rule, their homer rules, extra players, extra runs etc.
May 17, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 5 runs or 11 fielders

I agree with Jawood that when playing a team of less skilled players ( lower classification) the 5 runs an inning as opposed to 7 is an equalizer. You are also playing the "less skilled players" home run rule which is another equalizer. The extra runs or players is merely a third equalizer for the less skilled players.
May 4, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Softballs in Reno

SSUSA
Thanks for the prompt reply.
May 4, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Softballs in Reno

Thanks Tim,
However last year in several tournaments Trump stores without the SSUSA logo were used ( isa, Asa etc). I was wondering if these are ok to use this year as well. I guess it's referring to the second part of the rule that says " pre-approved by SSUSA headquarters in Sacramento". Was wondering if SSUSA could weigh in on this.
May 3, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Softballs in Reno

Does anyone know what balls can or will be used in Reno? The rule reads as follows:
In all SSUSA-sponsored qualifiers and tournaments, official game balls must have the official SSUSA stamp or be pre-approved by SSUSA headquarters, located in Sacramento, CA

I was wondering what balls without an SSUSA stamp are allowed/pre-approved. It seems like last year there were conflicting rulings. Any clarification would be appreciated for the 2015 season.
Thanks.

April 27, 2015
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Las Vegas Tourney

1. Summy's 55
2. MTC 55
3. Aftershock
March 23, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Not HAPPY with Bats Unlimited!

Hey Big Mike,
I've been dealing with Steve from Bat's Unlimited for over 8 years. He's always been above board, honest and straight forward. Nothing sketchy about him or Bat's Unlimited. I can't speak for FedEx or your neighbors but Bat's Unlimited is OK in my book. I read an article around Christmas about thieves following Fed Ex trucks and picking up packages left on doorsteps. If that happened I don't see how Bats Unlimited is responsible.
Mango
March 14, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Required Face Masks

How about toning down the balls? The easiest fix for directors to control the safety of the game. Second easiest fix is getting rid of rules that encourage power hitters to hit the ball down ( return to the dead ball walk)
Feb. 10, 2015
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: New Hyper Z pretty impressive!

Just got done hitting the new Louisville Slugger Hyper Z. There were four of us (all 50 Major Plus players) hitting on a hardball field with a 345-foot fence. Everyone swung their own bats for a round of 40 swings then the Louisville Hyper Z for 40 swing each. We were hitting the Ultra II, the GSC, and a couple of different Combats. The Hyper Z was by far the best bat in terms of overall performance-exit speed and carry/distance. Each player hit the ball farther/ more home runs with the new Hyper Z (fresh out of the wrapper) than with their own bat. Not sure of durability yet as we only put 160 swings on it today. But as far as performance goes it was the best bat in the park!
Nov. 23, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Suggestions for 2015

Crump 22
Not sure which tournament you are talking about with “unlimited” home runs. Is it the one in Rockford in August?

Also, I would like to point out that I am not advocating “unlimited” home runs in the plus division. I would be happy with going back to a cap on homers then DBW. There is quite a difference between a ball hit over the fence for 4 bases and a ball hit over the fence for 1 base. If you stop and think about it-the DBW is quite limiting in terms of offensive production.

Nov. 19, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Suggestions for 2015

For the 50, 55 and possibly the 60 Major Plus- Get rid of the DBO and go back to the Dead Ball Walk after home runs are gone. There are too many big strong players in those age group/divisions. I saw too many pitchers get blasted this season. It’s only a matter of time before someone is very seriously injured. There is no reason to have the DBO in the Plus divisions.

I encourage all Plus players that wish the rule changed to send an email to the rules committee at the address above in Dave’s post (SSUSA Post -info@seniorsoftball.com with "Rules Committee" in the subject line )
Sept. 9, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Vegas - Session 1

I agree with JT25 get rid of the dbo rule in Plus or get rid of the ROCK Ball. The ROCK Ball is ridiculous for Vegas.
Aug. 3, 2014
Mango
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: WHY SEVEN RUNS PER INNING?

Hey Stick,
I'm doing well, thanks. How about you? Who are you playing with this year and will you be coming to Vegas?
Also do you know of any 50 Major Plus teams from back in your area who will be coming out? Please encourage them all-it should be a good World Series.
Aug. 1, 2014
Mango
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: WHY SEVEN RUNS PER INNING?

SSUSA Staff- Right!!!! I agree with that point as well! More runs per inning should result in more aggregate at bats. I was merely pointing out an additional benefit of 7 vs 5,the added importance of defense. Again-Thanks for listening to Plus Players and letting them have a voice in shaping the game they play.
Aug. 1, 2014
Mango
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: WHY SEVEN RUNS PER INNING?

SSUSA- Thanks for listening!

The higher the runs per inning the more important defense becomes. Anyone that has played at the plus level for any period of time would probably agree. A couple years ago it was 9 runs an inning and I would like to see it go back to that. We had a player boot a double play ball that ended up costing us 9 runs. We lost by 3 runs. Had there been a 5 run limit we would have won the game. We still don’t speak that player’s name :-)

As far as the run totals. Run totals are a product of a number of things (home runs being one of the things that was changed this year to perhaps depress run totals) but one of the most important factors is the amount of time you have to score runs. 99% of the games have time limits and this is a big factor in how many runs you can score.

And can someone explain to me the thought process where one thinks they are getting to play more softball because they play 7 innings. If you have played a 7 inning game in 55 minute and a 5 inning game in 70 minutes-who has played more softball?

July 9, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What was to consensus on DBO Homerun rule after Rock N Roll Reno?

The dbo may act as an equalizer to help the weaker teams with softer hitting players, or narrow the gap between major and major plus teams, or make the game more or less enjoyable to players, but it certainly doesn’t add defense to the game. Any time a team gets to hit without recording an out that devalues and subtracts defense.

And sorry Tim, I kind of got off topic on your thread- In Reno our pitcher was hit 3 times and we hit 3 pitchers. That’s a total of 6. It seems pretty high-especially for the pitchers that were hit. But this is not how one should do statistics (anecdotally).

I would use logic- and if players are hitting the ball down more because of the dbo- it stands to reason that you increase the chance of players(infielders and runners) getting hit .That’s just simple probability. Suppose you made a rule where any groundball was an out then players would lift the ball more and probability would suggest that that would statistically decreases the chance of players getting hit. That’s really sort of common sense isn’t it?




July 9, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What was to consensus on DBO Homerun rule after Rock N Roll Reno?

Actually Tim to be fair, I didn’t say it eliminates defense, I said it lessens the amount of defense necessary to get up to hit.

However, in one game a few months ago I watched a team make all three outs in one inning by watching dbo’s hit over the fence. They never once made a defensive play. The defensive team couldn’t catch the hard hit balls that were hit down, and there were lots of them. Even though they had a great defensive pitcher…. evidenced by the fact that he was serving up lots of cookies for lots of hits that inning (according to RightRj this make a good pitcher). In this particular case it did “eliminate” defense for that half inning.



July 9, 2014
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What was to consensus on DBO Homerun rule after Rock N Roll Reno?

Hammer
Glad I could entertain you because if you can't laugh..... However, the dbo rule and the 5/7 run limit per inning both REDUCE defense. If you think about it, watching a ball hit over the fence for an out doesn't really require much defense does it…in fact it requires 0 defense. Hard to argue different.
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