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Real name:
Dave (Mango) Meggison

Location:
Orange, CA

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Men's 50

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July 23, 2011
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How do the other major teams feel about major and major plus in western national

Tim- I agree with you. As someone who has played Major Plus the past several years I donít particularly like playing Major teams in a National Event. First, the Major teams usually donít want to play us and they feel that we are forcing them to play us (we donít want to play you). Then the Major Plus team has to play THEIR rules (5 homeruns), give THEM 5 runs, AND have a 5 run limit. Given the hot bat/ball combo most Major teams can score 5 runs an inning. Itís hard to make up those extra 5 runs in one open inning especially when youíre out of homers ( and your team is built for Major Plus homer limits). Those contests are tailor made to advantage the Major teams. Iíd much rather slug it out with a Major Plus team.

A friend of mine who plays Major and I play on the same weeknight team with the kids. After the game we were having beers with the young pups and they asked if our teams ever played each other. When I told them we did and that my team had to give them 5 extra runs or an eleventh fielder they thought I was lying. They couldnít comprehend it.

I hate the 5 run an inning rule, but will admit it keeps all games close and gives the lesser teams a chance to win. I played in a World in Phoenix a couple of years ago and they only used the 5-run rule in seeding games. They removed it for tournament play. We played a team and won by 1 in the seeding round and beat them by 40 the next day. The 5 Ė run-rule makes every game close regardless of the talent discrepancy between teams.

Mango

May 27, 2011
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Rock n Reno 50+ Major predictions

Tim -In the 50 Major Plus the Mavericks won Reno last year and also won Phoenix. Looks like 4 really good teams again this year.
Mango
Sept. 25, 2010
Mango
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking for a team in Ohio

If he's anything like Mike I'm sure he is a good player.
Dave Meggison
2010 Laguna Beach Wed. Night League Champions
Dec. 7, 2009
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Better hitter????

Nobody in the game right now has more power right now than Ron Parnell. There may be some that can hit for power with him, but not better. But even more importantly, especially with the home run restrictions last year, he can also hit for average/base hits with anyone. Anyone that played against him saw his dink to right field when the situation called for him to stay in. And he was completely unselfish, giving himself up to do that time and time again.

He also is a tremendous leader. He makes the players around him better.

Hereís the acid test. If you take all the players that are playing Senior Softball right now, all ages and all divisions, and do a draft, I canít imagine anyone getting picked ahead of Ron Parnell. If there were a better hitter in the game RIGHT NOW, Iíd love to see him. There is not a better all around player.

Aug. 9, 2009
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What's the Ruling?

This was an ASA tournament and we were told a starter may only re-enter for the player who substituted for him. Is the rule different for ASA?
Aug. 9, 2009
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What's the Ruling?

Whatís the Ruling?
Player ďAĒ, a starter is subbed for by player ďBĒ.
Player ďBĒ is then subbed for by player ďCĒ.

In the last inning player ďAĒ re-enters (for player ďCĒ) and is playing defensively in the outfield. Now it is my understanding that this canít be done (a starter can only re-enter for the sub who went in for him).

The opposing team brought it to the umpireís attention after 2 outs had already been recorded. Whatís the ruling/penalty?
April 17, 2009
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 4-25 & 26 LVSSA 50 teams where are you

Hi Joey,
I passed your message on to Mickey. Sounds like you guys are having fun up there in NorCal. Give my regards to Gerald, Junior, Jerry and Ron. You guys should think about getting a team in Palm Springs the second weekend of May. Great town... Great weather.
Mango
April 14, 2009
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 4-25 & 26 LVSSA 50 teams where are you

The Mavericks will be in Vegas. Those of you who go on here and complain about SSUSA rules should support this tournament.

Mango


Jan. 30, 2009
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: OSM 40+ Team Tournament Schedule

F.O.G
Thanks!
Mango
Jan. 25, 2009
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: OSM 40+ Team Tournament Schedule

F.O.G.
What type of bats will you be allowing at these tournaments. Obviously the ASA will have to be ASA bats but what about the others. I heard they \used senior bats down in Poway last weekend. What about the SCSSA tourneys?
Thansk,
Mango
Jan. 2, 2009
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: I don't care what bats are used......

Hey Joey,
Mango here. My suggestion is to use the same balls they used at SPA. You needed to hit it to hit a homerun. Anytime guys like Larry Tate (AKA Don Newhard = AKA ďPowderĒ) can hit a ball 300 feet something is wrong J. The game scores at SPA were good (in the 20ís and 30ís) and there were no cheap homeruns. The situation in Vegas was ridiculous. Guys that have no business hitting homeruns were hitting them. I hit a walk off game winner off the hands (that should have been an out) that I still feel embarrassed about. Something should be done about the cheapened homerun and the balls are the easiest way to control it.

As far as Major teams moving up being competitive- the 5 or 7 run rule always keeps it close regardless of the home run rule. In Phoenix in the seeding games all our games were close. We didnít run away from teams until the tournament part where we were allowed unlimited runs. In fact we had to go to extra innings to beat one team in the seeding game and then beat the same team by 30 in three innings with the open inning rule.

Wood- ďat times, many of us act as though our fifth grade weight would exceed our current IQ... Twins25:This would still make you an 'off the charts' geniusĒ.
I love how you never miss an opportunity to bring Galvin into the mix.:)

Happy New Year to All

Mango
Sept. 11, 2008
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Out at the plate

Hey Joey,
Does that mean that MAC II is not going to Phoenix?
Mango
Aug. 21, 2008
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: more balls than brains

Einstein,
Hey Joey. Iíve got to disagree with you. I thought the balls at SPA were fine. You needed to hit them just decent to get them out. You werenít going to have too many mishit homeruns (we had a couple). The weaker guys werenít going to hit them out. We scored in the 40ís a couple of times so thatís pretty decent.

Now as far as us not scoring many runs against you guys. We only scored 23 because they called the game for the mercy rule (you guys only scored 8 off Mick). They made us stop hitting by rule. We were still hitting with I believe no outs when they called the game. In fact Bully mentioned to me today that we might still be hitting as we speak had they not made us stop hitting by rule.
:)
Mango
June 13, 2008
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Description of a Major Plus Player.

Curt:
You make some good points about the importance of the major plus division being a lighthouse division. And maybe (not totally convinced, need to think about it more) it is better for Senior Softball the way it is now with major plus being an extremely elite division. I was speaking strictly from a selfish standpoint about my desire to play in tournaments with more teams.

Smokey:
I could easily play and enjoy playing under the rules you suggested. Youíre right about the runs per inning keeping the games close. For my taste the more homeruns the better. My suggestion of 7 or 5 (one up/single) was to make it more palatable to the major teams. Itís less of a stretch for them to feel theyíre competitive.

The one thing I think we can all agree upon is it should never be an out after homeruns are gone! I donít know what they were thinking when they came up with 12 homers then an out.
June 13, 2008
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Description of a Major Plus Player.

Gentlemen,
Good discussion. So much to weigh in on, where do I start? Letís see. First of all I must correct Don ďLarry TateĒ ďPowderĒ Newhard. His legs are not like 2 strings. That would be too generous. More like 2 threads. 2 shiny white fluorescent threads hanging from his shorts.

I do however agree with Tateís idea of merging the major and major plus divisions. I donít mind if there is a compromise on the homerun rule (7 or even 5) as long as itís a single after the limit. Why compromise? Because personally Iím tired of the dearth of teams in the 50 major plus division. Itís the middle of June and weíve only played 2 games against another major plus team this year. Weíve only been allowed to use ďour rulesĒ in two games so far this year.

Again just my opinion and Iím sure not everyone shares it but I would rather play against more teams. The biggest difference between major and major plus seems to be the number of homers hit. If you restricted the homers you would probably see a change in what an upper division team looked like. The new combined upper division teams(major & major plus) would be reminiscent of the 80ís when USSSA started instituting homerun restrictions (4 or 6 homerun hitters). You would see teams more balanced in terms of offense and defense, again much like the prototypical ďAĒ and ďBĒ teams of the 80ís and 90ís.

Mango
Dec. 27, 2007
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: when managers picks all-tournment players

Gentlemen,
For the last 10 years I have primarily played catcher. I donít think you will ever get an argument from anybody that has ever played this game at a high level that the most important position on the field is the pitcher. You really get an appreciation (catching) for just how much of an impact a good pitcher can have on a game. By the way ĖIMO a good catcher can help his pitcher and have an impact on the game in a number of ways.

Wood - I agree with you. I had the privilege of catching for Ray a couple of years ago. Ray Tarazon is all those things you said about him and more. He is probably one of the most underrated pitchers around, maybe because heís only been playing softball for a few years.

Einstein Ė Bill from the Mavericks is Billy Gombos. He will be pitching for Evolution this year. I have caught for him before. I agree with you. He is a very god pitcher. And obviously Mickey Hughes is one of the best. Iíve been catching for him for several years now and Iíve seen him completely baffle hitters. Iím glad I only have to hit off him in BP.

Sorry for the long post but one more thing ĖJoey email me with your new email address. Everything I send you keeps getting returned.

Mango
Dec. 20, 2007
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: found on another board

Wagon487
You seem to be a little confused about the 45. I played in the 45 in 2004. They only allowed 3 homeruns and then any ball over the fence was an out. So all those balls you claimed to have seen flying over the fence must have been outs. We won the tournament and our leading homerun hitter had 4 homeruns. I didnít see any juiced bats just some top quality players. As Lecak says some of these players are still at the top of their game.

I can understand how you wouldnít want to go clear across country to get worked like you did in 04 (0-2), but where were you the last couple of years? The 45 was in Mississippi this year and Alabama the previous tournament.

Just because you canít compete doesnít make it a bad tournament. Also wouldnít teams rather go to a place like California where there are a variety of extracurricular options/extras to do? Is there really a big difference in airline ticket prices between the east coast and the middle of the country say Colorado?

Hereís a tip for east coast guys - check flights into Oakland or Sacramento rather than San Francisco, they are generally cheaper. Hope to see as many teams as possible in Roseville.
Mango
Aug. 14, 2007
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Snod8 @45\'s

Hey Snod 8 are you still going to the 45's in Mississippi in Sept.? Bully spoke with the tournament director today and they have confirmed teams from California, Oregon, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Houston, Florida and Arkansas. I thought you guys were based out of Conneticut and he didn\'t mention any teams from there. Or are you playing with the Pennsylvania boys? Hope to see you there.
Mango
Aug. 2, 2007
Mango
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: OUR TEAM BROKE UP!!!!!!

Hey Gary 19,
Not sure why you would lol for someone snow birding in Wisconsin. Maybe CRUESADERVB misspoke but it appears his concept is correct.

Iím not sure exactly how the snowbird rule works, but my general understanding is that you split your residency over the course of the year. Living part of the year in one location and part of the time in another location.

It appears that CRUESADERVB has it right. He spends his summers in Wisconsin (when Phoenix is unbearably hot) and his winters in Phoenix when Wisconsin is unbearably cold. Whatís so funny about that?

Usually you seem pretty logical on most matters. Sounds like this guy is in a tough situation because his team broke up and he wants to play ball. Heís living in Wisconsin right now and wants to play ball with a team back there. I donít know how you can begrudge a guy that just wants to play ball. We complain about a lack of teams and then do things that restrict participation?
Mango
July 27, 2007
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: REPLANT...... FOOD 4 THOUGHT???

MavericAH makes a good point about protective equipment, though I wouldnít make it mandatory. Iím seeing more and more pitchers wearing protective batting helmets with cages over the face. Also goalie masks. I know a lot of pitchers wear shin guards under their pants and of course cups. I donít think it would be unreasonable to wear a chest protector out there. Maybe we will start seeing more of this in Senior Softball. In fact I donít know why more donít wear the stuff.

I'ld like to hear from some of the pitchers out there that have a gripe with guys hitting the middle. Why don't you wear protection like shin guards mask and chest protector?
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