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Dave (Mango) Meggison

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Dec. 20, 2007 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: found on another board Wagon487 You seem to be a little confused about the 45. I played in the 45 in 2004. They only allowed 3 homeruns and then any ball over the fence was an out. So all those balls you claimed to have seen flying over the fence must have been outs. We won the tournament and our leading homerun hitter had 4 homeruns. I didn’t see any juiced bats just some top quality players. As Lecak says some of these players are still at the top of their game. I can understand how you wouldn’t want to go clear across country to get worked like you did in 04 (0-2), but where were you the last couple of years? The 45 was in Mississippi this year and Alabama the previous tournament. Just because you can’t compete doesn’t make it a bad tournament. Also wouldn’t teams rather go to a place like California where there are a variety of extracurricular options/extras to do? Is there really a big difference in airline ticket prices between the east coast and the middle of the country say Colorado? Here’s a tip for east coast guys - check flights into Oakland or Sacramento rather than San Francisco, they are generally cheaper. Hope to see as many teams as possible in Roseville. Mango
Aug. 14, 2007 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Snod8 @45\'s Hey Snod 8 are you still going to the 45's in Mississippi in Sept.? Bully spoke with the tournament director today and they have confirmed teams from California, Oregon, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Houston, Florida and Arkansas. I thought you guys were based out of Conneticut and he didn\'t mention any teams from there. Or are you playing with the Pennsylvania boys? Hope to see you there. Mango
Aug. 2, 2007 Mango	Topic: Players looking to join a team Discussion: OUR TEAM BROKE UP!!!!!! Hey Gary 19, Not sure why you would lol for someone snow birding in Wisconsin. Maybe CRUESADERVB misspoke but it appears his concept is correct. I’m not sure exactly how the snowbird rule works, but my general understanding is that you split your residency over the course of the year. Living part of the year in one location and part of the time in another location. It appears that CRUESADERVB has it right. He spends his summers in Wisconsin (when Phoenix is unbearably hot) and his winters in Phoenix when Wisconsin is unbearably cold. What’s so funny about that? Usually you seem pretty logical on most matters. Sounds like this guy is in a tough situation because his team broke up and he wants to play ball. He’s living in Wisconsin right now and wants to play ball with a team back there. I don’t know how you can begrudge a guy that just wants to play ball. We complain about a lack of teams and then do things that restrict participation? Mango
July 27, 2007 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: REPLANT...... FOOD 4 THOUGHT??? MavericAH makes a good point about protective equipment, though I wouldn’t make it mandatory. I’m seeing more and more pitchers wearing protective batting helmets with cages over the face. Also goalie masks. I know a lot of pitchers wear shin guards under their pants and of course cups. I don’t think it would be unreasonable to wear a chest protector out there. Maybe we will start seeing more of this in Senior Softball. In fact I don’t know why more don’t wear the stuff. I'ld like to hear from some of the pitchers out there that have a gripe with guys hitting the middle. Why don't you wear protection like shin guards mask and chest protector?
July 22, 2007 Mango	Topic: Website comments Discussion: GARY 19 & SMOOTH 01: Snod8 Hey Rick good to hear from you. Yes we are going to Mississippi for the 45. I heard you guys are going as well. Look forward to seeing you there. Can’t wait to play some guys our own age. Tired of playing the kids every weekend. Our season with Courtesy/Kelly’s is going pretty well this year, with the exception of a second place finish in Tahoe. We ended up getting beat by a pretty nice 40 team out of Washington. Keith (your old manager- Oregon/Northwest Masters) said he would be bringing some of those guys to the 45. As far as Senior Ball goes I'm playing with Kelly’s this year. We've only played once so far and we ended up second in that tourney back in April in Palm Springs. Kelly’s will be playing in September (Vegas I think) and October (Phoenix). Can’t wait. Mango
July 21, 2007 Mango	Topic: Website comments Discussion: GARY 19 & SMOOTH 01: Replant, Gary 19 & E. Ness, You guys all make valid points about hitting the middle. My thought has always been – if you don’t want me to hit the middle then throw it flat and on the inside half of the plate- I’m never going to try and do anything with that pith except pull it. I’ve been a notorious middle hitter for my entire career. I would never go pitch because I can’t field the middle. I’d get hurt, and my team would do poorly. Most of the teams that I’ve played on the pitchers have been the best fielders. I want you to hit it at my pitcher! Not near him, but directly at him. I’ve hit the middle my whole career (30 years in slo-pitch) and it hasn’t really been an issue except in the last couple of years. Is this a function of the new hotter bats? Or is there a change in the culture of the game? If there is going to be a change in the culture of the game and the middle is going to be “closed”, let me know. I’d like to go pitch. I think I could be a pretty good pitcher if I didn’t have to field. Mango
June 27, 2007 Mango	Topic: Bats Discussion: TECH' INFOR on COMPOSITE BATS & REACTION TIME. Hey Gary 19, The municipalities wouldn’t pay to move the fences in. The senior organizations that throw tourneys would buy temporary plastic fencing. They could then use them at any and all fields that they use and move them for the appropriate age group They could use these on open fields as well as fenced fields of 300 or greater. It’s not that expensive and it’s a one-time purchase. When I first started playing competitive ball in the 70's and 80's temporary fencing was commonplace because so many of the field were open fields. As far as sense of achievement. I can hit a ball over 300 feet with a single wall bat, but not nearly as often as with a double wall or composite. And forget about the U2. I’ve hit balls out off the hands. And guys I’ve played with that NEVER hit homeruns in their career when they were young are now hitting them over 300 with the U2. A homerun used to be something where only the true power hitters could hit the ball out of the park with any consistency. Now they’re so commonplace its nothing. Mango
June 26, 2007 Mango	Topic: Bats Discussion: TECH' INFOR on COMPOSITE BATS & REACTION TIME. Stoneman, Thanks for the good info. This makes a good case for those who ridicule the allowing of hotter bats (ultra/ combat) in senior softball than in. competitive softball. I’ve been watching this board for some time now and have seen lots of conversation on hitting the middle/illegal bats- safety issues etc.. Wouldn’t it make sense to ban all double wall and composite bats and move the fences in to say 275 feet? Maybe even closer (say 250) for the older age groups. You would still have the homerun- which everyone likes. You know how they say that 50 is the new 40. Well 275 would be the new 300. And you could still hit middle, which some players (both hitters and good defensive pitchers) like. There would be a onetime cost to purchase temporary fencing by tds. I know many of the rec leagues in my area are going to single walls. And if you think about it the skill level of seniors really is more in keeping with rec league players than competitive tourney players. Mango
June 21, 2007 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: save it for the confessional I was playing ball a few years back and hit a missile to left that was knuckling as soon as it left the bat. It hit the LEFT FIELDER in the forehead. He needed stitches to close the gash in his forehead. I ran hard to second base and they stopped play. As he was being helped off the field I apologized. Another time I hit a ball that bounced up and hit the third baseman in the forearm and broke (fractured) his arm. I ran hard to first. He was one of my friends. I told him I was sorry. And still another time I was playing in a world series and some big country boy was on the mound and started verbally abusing one of our players. My teammate in front of me hit him in the shin and ran to first. Next I hit him in the thigh and the ball bounced off him out of play. I jogged to first. Neither of us apologized to him. I think this thread started out about apologizing after hitting a pitcher. I don’t see anything wrong with that if you weren’t trying to hit him. In the first two cases above I was sorry. In the third case I wasn’t and didn’t say anything. I’ve hit middle my whole career(it was never an issue in competitive siftball) as well as the 5/6 hole. Sometimes the shortstop cheats in the hole and I try and go 1/6. If I see the pitcher is falling off to cover 1/6 I try and go 1/4. Usually I don’t try to hit the ball AT anyone. I’m not perfect and sometimes I miss and I either make an out or someone gets scared or hurt. If anyone (pitcher/ 3rd base/ 1st base) gets hurt and I didn’t mean to hit him I say I’m sorry. I don’t think it’s disingenuous.
May 1, 2007 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Geographic rules I agree with chollis for major plus open rosters. I don’t know how things can get any worse as far as number of teams in major plus is concerned. I know last year a California major plus team The Mavericks traveled all the way to Virginia for a “World Series” and they were the ONLY 50 major plus team. 1 team! How can it be worse than that? Something’s gotta change
April 24, 2007 Mango	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Steve Imlay suspension This is probably going to sound naïve but here goes. Why can’t anyone play with whoever they want to play with whenever they want? What’s the purpose of the residency rule? Mango
March 27, 2007 Mango	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: RULES??? Cpope - I agree with you. The tournament directors I have come in contact with in my brief stint in Senior softball have no clue about the rules. The rules change by the day and by the game. These include how many homeruns are allowed(5 one game, 7 the next, then back to 5 the following day). Whether or not all runners advance one base on singles over the fence or have to be forced (again I've had it change from game to game). Equalization rules for playing teams down one level seem to change from game to game within the same tournament. Again the tournament directors have no clue. I believe it is our responsibility as well to know the rules. So I'll ask again. Does anyone know where you get a Senior Softball Rule Book? Thanks, Mango
March 26, 2007 Mango	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: RULES??? I have questions about participation as well. Last season I was aware of players moving from team to team both within and between divisions. In the 50 division players would play on one Super Major Team one weekend, a couple of weeks later play on a different Super Major team, and then another weekend back to the original team. I also saw this happening with a player going from one team in Major to another in Super Major and then back again on different weekends. I believe this to be good for Senior Softball as it increases the number of teams playing on any particular weekend. Some team wants to play and is missing a couple of guys- borrows a player or two and then can play. We used to do it all the time in regular softball. I’m for anything that gets more teams out there. I’ve been told that you can’t do this even though I saw it done last year. What exactly are the rules? Where are the rules? How do you get a copy of the Rules? Mango
March 14, 2007 Mango	Topic: Bats Discussion: Why did Miken Change???? I agree with Lecak. Seniors don’t need to doctor bats. This is because they already get to use something hotter than anything used at the kid tournaments (including doctored bats)- the U2. If you outlaw the U2 then you would probably get lots of guys doctoring bats. Right now we already get to use something way hotter. Creates a level playing field.I may be naive butI find it hard to believe you could do anything to improve a U2 by doctoring it. Who needs anything hotter than that anyway?
Nov. 12, 2006 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Someone Rank the Top Teams in Each Division for me. As far as the major division goes. I played with the Road Dogs in 11 tournaments this year. We won 10 of those tournaments including the California Cup, The Western Worlds in Reno, The World Series in Seattle in Sept., The National Championship Game, The World Series in Palm Springs, and were Triple Crown Winners. We qualified for the Florida Tournament of Champions I believe 5 times. Needless to say we played some very good teams throughout the year. Unfortunately I wasn’t with the Road Dogs in Las Vegas for that last World Series so I didn’t get to see Travelodge. So I can’t really comment on their team. I would have liked to see them at some of the other big tournaments. Of the teams I did see and we saw plenty of good ones, I would rate them as follows (leaving Road Dogs out): 1. Sweet Construction (They crushed a couple of teams in Seattle) 2. Roberts (good balanced club – defense, hitting, power& most importantly nice guys) 3. Milwaukee Merchants –again another balanced team. Mango #33 Road Dogs
Oct. 3, 2006 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: It's Time For Our SSUSA Msg. Board To Achieve Full Identification Disclosure! Einstein, I have to agree with you, I don’t get it. So maybe you can enlighten me with an example. I’m open-minded. Lefty just posted that he agrees with Einstein. He says, “If you have no name who cares what you have to say.” He offered his opinion. He said how he felt about this topic. So now what am I suppose to do? Look up his email address? Find out where he lives? What team he plays for? To what end? So someone can confront him at a tournament for not agreeing with him? Please explain how me knowing who lefty is would change anything. Lefty -feel free to chime in on this too Mango On a different note – are you going to be good for Louisiana? I heard you got hurt this weekend.
Oct. 2, 2006 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: It's Time For Our SSUSA Msg. Board To Achieve Full Identification Disclosure! I agree with “Hit the Gap”, It’s the ideas that are important! Someone who is interested to know the identity of the writer usually wants that info so he can discredit the PERSON because he can’t win a debate on the ideas. I can’t for the life of me know why it is so important to some to know who it is that is disagreeing with them. Argue your point not the person. I agree with “Hit the Gap” and I have no idea who he is nor do I care. If I knew him in real life and didn’t like him would that/ should that change my opinion on his ideas? I know Einstein in real life and I like him. Does that mean I should agree with him on this issue? I think it’s a joke when someone’s first question on a post they disagree with is “who are you?” It means they don’t want to debate the post/idea. If “Hit the Gap” signed his real name I probably wouldn’t know him anyway so how is this information important. Its not. It’s only important to those who can’t defend their positions. Mango Dave Meggison – for those ministers of information that feel its important to know these things.
Sept. 17, 2006 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: hecklers, crashers and negative clowns Stoneman, To answer your questions. 1). When I joined the message board I don’t know if I read the agreement about posting. I doubt I read the agreement about posting. I hardly ever read Internet agreements. I usually just click “I agree” and move on to the next annoying “required” information box. 2). I did use the website registration form as evidenced by my presence on the website. Again, filling out the bare minimum. 3). I’m very proud of you for using your real name and division. Not that it helps me any because even after reading your name I have no idea who you are. By the way I don’t believe that makes your ideas any more or less valid to me. I believe ideas should stand on their own merit. 4). Again, I’m very proud of you for listing your location. If I ever believe my location has anything important to do with any topic or idea I’ll be sure to include it in my post. Perhaps you’ve heard of François-Marie Arouet better known by his nom de plume (pen name) as Voltaire. A famous 18th century philosopher known for his vigorous protection of freedom of speech. He argued vehemently against censorship. Much of our constitution is based on his ideas. I don’t believe that anyone’s argument is more or less valid if he uses his real name, nickname, or pen name. So those of you out there who like to write in anonymity - good for you. Those who like to use their legal names - good for you. Oh and by the way, Mango is the name my friends in softball know me by. I like the name Mango. I go by the name Mango. If I used my legal name( Dave Meggison) my softball friends might have no idea who I am. That said, Stoneman, how do you feel about censorship? Mango
Sept. 17, 2006 Mango	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: hecklers, crashers and negative clowns Jeepers Albert, I never would have pegged you for a censorship guy. Lots of people use humor and goof on things to make a point (Saturday Night Live, Daily Show, political cartoons etc.) They do this for serious stuff like war, political agendas, religion etc.. I’m a little concerned that you put Senior Softball discussions above those serious life issues. Or, maybe I’m glad you do. See you in Louisiana. Mango
Aug. 24, 2006 Mango	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS - Teams Entered List Snod8, Rick nice to hear from you. It looks like you'll be playing with a different team(softball whore) at the nationals this year. Just kidding, I spoke with Keith in Reno a couple of weeks ago and he told me that their Oregon team wasn't going to the 45's this year. Look forward to seeing you in Alabama in a couple of weeks. Mango:)

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