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Real name:
Dave (Mango) Meggison

Location:
Orange, CA

Division:
Men's 50

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Sept. 30, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: This is a first...

Swing, not sure of your situation but maybe some of you have heard the true story of the “potato Pick-off”. In a minor league baseball game in the 80’s a catcher snuck a potato, peeled to look like a baseball, onto the field. With a runner on third base he pulled the potato out of his pocket and fired it wildly over the head of his third baseman. The runner on third came trotting home only to be tagged out by the catcher who was waiting for him with the real ball. After the umpires realized what had happened, they ruled the runner safe and the catcher was pulled from the game - by his manager (and I believe, released from the team the next day). Obviously, the catcher’s intention to deceive was taken into consideration. A little bit different than your situation but a pretty amusing story.

Aug. 8, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Prayers needed for the Dowell family

Dave and Fran,
Thoughts and prayers are with you.
Mango- Sommerville Softball
July 27, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP

Hey Jawood,
I'm not sure about how well that rule helps or hurts the plus division. It's probably too new to tell. Also just to set the record straight we actually have only 1 player outside our bordering state, and yes he is very good. But...he has only played in 2 tournaments with us ever. He played with us once in SPA a couple years ago and once this year in Reno. That rule hasn't "made" our team. How that rule helps other plus teams or major teams that want to move up probably remains to be seen. I'm not sure if you guys or other teams have had a chance to utilize it yet or not.


You guys had a couple of bad breaks with injuries in Reno this year, but it was good playing you guys in the finals again this year. I liked the outcome better this year than last. Best of luck to you and your team.

Mango

July 26, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP

Hey Joe,
Yes it was good seeing you in San Clemente a couple of weeks ago. And as far as the geographic make up of our team you are correct. When we played in the 45’s we were a team made up ENTIRELY of southern California players- we ALL lived within 70 miles of each other-though most every other team we met and defeated at the worlds (for 6 years) were multi- state teams. By the way, we never complained about multi state/no geographic restriction teams- those were the rules. We didn’t even care when a norcal team was flying in players from Washington and as far away as Valdosta Georgia to try and beat us. The rules allowed it. We just beat them with our local socal guys and our very limited sponsorship.

When we joined the Mavericks they had 1 norcal guy –the only one of 18 players that didn’t live within 70 miles of us. Actually for one of those years we had 1 and a half players from Norcal(Sorry DuffJ). And California was an island so we had no exemptions or bordering states players.

Recently, As Sommerville Softball, 2 of our socal boys moved to adjoining states. Fortunately for us California is no longer and island and those 2guys who have played with us for years and are from socal can still play with us. So yes Joe, you are right that 2 of our guys no longer live within 70 miles of us.
Again great seeing you Joe, best of luck to you and your team.

Mango

July 25, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP

Tim
Yikes! Ouch!! Ahhhhh… Sorry I/we wrecked senior softball. I’ve been reading your position on making the major plus division more suitable for your team to be able to play in for a while now. And I refrained from making any comments even though many of the things you and others have said about our team are not true-from our budget size, to our record, to where our players come from. Your comments demean our team, and make it sound like what we have done was easy. I assure you it was not. One of the most difficult parts was coming on a team that had been in existence for a long period of time without a lot of success at the Major Plus level and changing their attitude. When the attitude changed so did the level of success.

But I couldn’t refrain from commenting when you made the statement about Mario- that his attitude- “wanting to play the best teams is what kills the upper division”. On prima fascia value alone that statement is ridiculously wrong-“players wanting to play up kills the upper level”? That doesn’t even make sense. But I can tell from Mario’s “attitude” that he is a big boy and doesn’t need my help. Congratulations to him and OKI for winning SPA worlds. I hope nobody makes them break up before the SSUSA worlds. If they did there would be less teams at the world, not more.

Tim- I understand you are passionate about your viewpoint. I like passion. I also like facts. You have many facts wrong about who we are. I would be willing to share those facts with you over a friendly beer sometime. Best of luck to you and your team this season, at whatever level you play at- you have a lot of good players on that team. I wish you all the success you deserve.


Mango
Sommerville Softball

July 24, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: TOURNAMENT WINNER AUTO MOVEUP

Tim,
You say you want to grow the upper division. It sounds like ASA’s plan didn’t grow the upper division but quite the opposite got rid of it. And you mention history, but didn’t that show that once you got rid of the super division then the same problems happened in the major? What makes you seem to think it will be any different in Senior Softball?

Softball, I believe, is like a pyramid with the “best” teams at the top. They are, by definition, fewer in number. Softball’s growth has always been at the lower divisions. Pushing the top teams at those lower divisions upward allows that growth. It sounds like your team has become one that is considered a top team in its division. Much to your chagrin it is being pushed upward. Your team playing the next level up would obviously help grow the uppers. It would also allow more room for the top AAA teams and so on down the line. So, for the good of softball, I would think you would want to move up and play.

I believe it is players like Mario and their attitudes that allow softball to grow, not only at the highest levels but all levels. And players/teams, who when faced with the challenge of moving up, selfishly quit or break up, actually are destroying not only growth at the upper levels but growth at all levels of softball.

Mango,
Sommerville Softball


April 26, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Uniforms

Hey Stick,
Mango here. Any chance you guys are going to Rock n Reno. There should be at least 4 or 5 Major Plus Teams there. You guys would help make it a nice tournament.
April 12, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: To all the softball purists

Food for thought-Some Baseball History-
In 1875 Charles Waite of the St. Louis Brown Stockings became the first fielder to wear a fingerless glove. Unfortunately for him, he was the subject of intense ridicule by not only the opposing players and fans, but by his own teammates as well. Obviously, the timing was not right for the widespread acceptance of baseball gloves. It would take a few more years, along with a significant rule change, before the use of gloves became accepted.
Feb. 5, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What should a healthy senior program look like?

Hey Stick,
Nice to hear from you. Your example is not 100% correct. Suppose you owe a store $1,000 and go in and buy a $200 bat and accidentally give them $210. Should you get the excess $10 back or should it be used to pay down your debt? That would be a better analogy.. For the last decade we have run deficits by cutting taxes and increasing spending. And these annual deficits have increased the National Debt to such an extent that almost 1/3rd of the budget this year will be interest on the National Debt. And Tim apologies for participating in the hijacking of your thread.
Feb. 4, 2012
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What should a healthy senior program look like?

Webbie,
Not being political but just clearing up a couple of things. Just to clear things up. You are talking about 2 different things. One is the National Debt..that is at approximately 15 trillion. The "Deficit" is how much we are short each year, that is how much more we spend than we take in EACH YEAR. Last year the "deficit" was about 1.2 trillion. This was added to the National Debt. These annual deficits contribute to the NATIONAL DEBT. We have been running deficits for the last decade (since the Bush tax cuts of 2001). President Obama extended these tax cuts in 2010 and they too contribute to the National Debt. The last time we had a "surplus"(we take in more than we spend)was when Clinton was in office. Hope that clears up the difference between deficit and the national debt.
Mango
Dec. 12, 2011
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Are California and Florida still Islands?

Saw they had their winter meetings and was wondering if anyone knows if California and Florida are still considered islands? Or can they use players from adjoining states like the rest of the country?
Thanks,
mango
July 23, 2011
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How do the other major teams feel about major and major plus in western national

Mario- Kudos to you. I’m assuming when your New Construction team was moving up and challenging themselves they were playing the higher level rules and there were no run limits per inning. I’m sure you guys must have taken some beatings- standing out in the field while the other team hits and hits and hits and hits….. That is something that doesn’t happen with today’s rules in Senior Ball. Props.

Mango

July 23, 2011
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How do the other major teams feel about major and major plus in western national

Tim- I agree with you. As someone who has played Major Plus the past several years I don’t particularly like playing Major teams in a National Event. First, the Major teams usually don’t want to play us and they feel that we are forcing them to play us (we don’t want to play you). Then the Major Plus team has to play THEIR rules (5 homeruns), give THEM 5 runs, AND have a 5 run limit. Given the hot bat/ball combo most Major teams can score 5 runs an inning. It’s hard to make up those extra 5 runs in one open inning especially when you’re out of homers ( and your team is built for Major Plus homer limits). Those contests are tailor made to advantage the Major teams. I’d much rather slug it out with a Major Plus team.

A friend of mine who plays Major and I play on the same weeknight team with the kids. After the game we were having beers with the young pups and they asked if our teams ever played each other. When I told them we did and that my team had to give them 5 extra runs or an eleventh fielder they thought I was lying. They couldn’t comprehend it.

I hate the 5 run an inning rule, but will admit it keeps all games close and gives the lesser teams a chance to win. I played in a World in Phoenix a couple of years ago and they only used the 5-run rule in seeding games. They removed it for tournament play. We played a team and won by 1 in the seeding round and beat them by 40 the next day. The 5 – run-rule makes every game close regardless of the talent discrepancy between teams.

Mango

May 27, 2011
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Rock n Reno 50+ Major predictions

Tim -In the 50 Major Plus the Mavericks won Reno last year and also won Phoenix. Looks like 4 really good teams again this year.
Mango
Sept. 25, 2010
Mango
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking for a team in Ohio

If he's anything like Mike I'm sure he is a good player.
Dave Meggison
2010 Laguna Beach Wed. Night League Champions
Dec. 7, 2009
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Better hitter????

Nobody in the game right now has more power right now than Ron Parnell. There may be some that can hit for power with him, but not better. But even more importantly, especially with the home run restrictions last year, he can also hit for average/base hits with anyone. Anyone that played against him saw his dink to right field when the situation called for him to stay in. And he was completely unselfish, giving himself up to do that time and time again.

He also is a tremendous leader. He makes the players around him better.

Here’s the acid test. If you take all the players that are playing Senior Softball right now, all ages and all divisions, and do a draft, I can’t imagine anyone getting picked ahead of Ron Parnell. If there were a better hitter in the game RIGHT NOW, I’d love to see him. There is not a better all around player.

Aug. 9, 2009
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What's the Ruling?

This was an ASA tournament and we were told a starter may only re-enter for the player who substituted for him. Is the rule different for ASA?
Aug. 9, 2009
Mango
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What's the Ruling?

What’s the Ruling?
Player “A”, a starter is subbed for by player “B”.
Player “B” is then subbed for by player “C”.

In the last inning player “A” re-enters (for player “C”) and is playing defensively in the outfield. Now it is my understanding that this can’t be done (a starter can only re-enter for the sub who went in for him).

The opposing team brought it to the umpire’s attention after 2 outs had already been recorded. What’s the ruling/penalty?
April 17, 2009
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 4-25 & 26 LVSSA 50 teams where are you

Hi Joey,
I passed your message on to Mickey. Sounds like you guys are having fun up there in NorCal. Give my regards to Gerald, Junior, Jerry and Ron. You guys should think about getting a team in Palm Springs the second weekend of May. Great town... Great weather.
Mango
April 14, 2009
Mango
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 4-25 & 26 LVSSA 50 teams where are you

The Mavericks will be in Vegas. Those of you who go on here and complain about SSUSA rules should support this tournament.

Mango


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