http://www.seniorsoftballstore.com

 
SIGN IN:   Password     »Sign up

Message board   »Message Board home    »Sign-in or register to get started

Online now: 0 members ; 26 anonymous
Change topic:

Details for hitit


Real name:

Location:
,

Division:

Messages posted by hitit »Message board home   »Start a new discussion

Feb. 6, 2009
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Somebody needs to say it!

To: WALK Not trying to be offensive or feel the need for you or me to "say whose right if and when the new ball comes out". I was just asking if you were a person that is an authority figure on determing the outcome, that's all.

My vote, eliminate senior bats and play with current USSSA bats and use a good hard ball. But, since so much money is going to this association from bat sponsor(s), I guess that isn't going to happen. As I posted earlier, I just hate to see the ball going to a ball similar to the "conference ball" that was used in Orlando last fall in "B" & "D" Worlds. Single digit scores, mulitple double plays, 30 minute game times = no fun at all.

I'm just having a hard time understanding how this new ball can go much slower through the infield yet as mentioned above, players that never hit HR's before are blowing them out of the park. I'm not an engineer, but it just doesn't make sense that a slower ball will also be a longer ball.
Feb. 4, 2009
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Somebody needs to say it!

Hello Lecak,

I'm not sure where you are coming from on this last post....so, I'll try to respond. Maybe these three teams on the West Coast ARE NOT Major+ teams according to what you have said. Maybe they are just "the best of the Major classification" and I am OK with that. Move back down, play by the Major rules. If indeed they don't have the budget, players aren't recruited, etc. I am sure nobody will complain unless they are winning nearly every tourney you play in. Then, it would signify a move up. If the lower 1/4 of the Major division can't compete, then allow to move down to AAA...but, you have to play to those lower rules as well. And, many of the upper senior players don't want to play down too far and lose their ability to hit HR's & such. Do you really think a very good Major team would want to go down to AAA or AA and win every tourney with those rules? I've played "A" ball for years and didn't find any fun in beating up on C teams in equalizer tournaments, no fun at all. So, let the Major+ teams (as few as they are) have their "own" division & classification. And, they will have to expect fewer teams to play. It's just that simple. And, only move up (to the wolves) a Major team that is purely DOMINATING their division. By only able to score 5 runs an inning, I just don't see a big difference in teams within Major division. I think it's all very close. Again, thanks for allowing the availability to share an opinion.
Feb. 4, 2009
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Somebody needs to say it!

Why does "Walk" speak in the authoritative position on the new ball...."we will be using this bll or a ball like it....." Is this a fact? Is he in a decision making process? I've heard that 2009 will be the same as 2008.....but will 2010 be using a different ball?

I've witnessed upper level play for years and have seen how the Major teams (in the open program) aren't just HR hitters. They are great hitters. They can go either side and hit missles up the middle.....the opposite side of where the 5-man is playing. And, when going middle, the difference of reaction time (50 feet away) is so small, at the senior level.....a pitcher isn't going to be saved by it. If it's in your face & chest area you will make a play. If it's at your ankles or knee, you won't have time to get it if it's struck real well by a power hitter. So, if you think this new ball will give pitchers a sense of security, you are wrong!

And, this is the very reason it is NOT GOOD for Major+ teams to be playing Major teams with HR restrictions. Pitchers are going to get hurt! Mark my word. There is the biggest classification difference between Major+ & Major. Most Major+ teams are well recruited and are fully sponsored very similar to comparing a Major team to an A team in the open program. Sure, they live with HR restictions, and the Major teams light up the middle so hard and hit pitchers...there are usually a few serious injury's and fights on the fields. Is this what the senior program wants? If I were a pitcher on a Major team and a Major+ player did the "California shuffle" and directly slammed the ball up the middle with intention, I would have somehting to say. If another player did it (a second time)or I got hurt, off come the gloves! I wouldn't stand for it to be a "target" for some Major+ player "just trying to get a hit".

Major+ teams know what they are trying to do when they put these teams together. They are the best of the best, and I congratulate them. But, they must understand that Major teams may have a few players of their caliber, but that does not make a Major+ TEAM! Teams that are un-voluntary moved up to be "whipping boys" will soon depart from play. Major teams should be the highest classification. And, if you want to play up, get loads of sponsors, get the best of the best...then have at it...but, know that you are going into a very elite selective classification and you may not have near the numbers of teams to play against.

As many people have mentioned.....this is OUR association and all paying card members, coaches & sponsors should be involved in the rule changing decision process. If not, then.,....again...as others have said....there is many other areas to play or change your recreation to other sporting activities.

Thanks for the opportunity to share an opinion.
Jan. 14, 2009
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Balls

Thanks THiJ, Yes, i did also see that the "conference ball that was used.....was a 40cor 300comp ball. It was HORRIBLE! I have even heard this years conference ball my be even lower to a 40cor 275 comp ball. I really didn't see a problem in 2008 with the senior ball. Sure, when the temperature dropped in early morning or late night it really flew. But, 80% of the games I felt it was right there. Glad they stayed the same for this year. But, I will be interested in hitting one of the 52cor balls to see what it is like. Again, thanks for the input.
Jan. 11, 2009
hitit
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: I was killed last night.

What was the Temperature at the TOC? How will the ball perform at 100+ degrees (Reno, Las Vegas, Phoenix)? At 100 degrees, won't the cor go somewhere from 275 to under 200?

So, is all of Senior ball need to be re-trained on how to hit? Spin/cut a ball instead of hitting it squarely or top half of ball to hit humpies?

Sounds like a definate MUST to go to a 5 man infield, play real deep and let pitcher cover second base for outs everytime there is a runner on first. Gee, looks like great fun.
Jan. 11, 2009
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Balls

THiJ: It appears that maybe you are the one who some guy spoke of pushing these "safer" balls. But, though I totally disagree with your opinion, I apprecitate you taking the time in a non-negative way to present your feelings. I have played in the "open" (under-40) for the past 15 years and am very familiar with the changes in both bats & balls. Last year at "B" Worlds in Orlando, the new "conference" ball was used. I believe it was a 275comp ball. Everyone HATED the ball. Yes, it was hot & humid, but the ball was horrible. Scores were below 10 runs a game with not many teams at all even able to hit their 3 allotted HR's. Scores of 3-1, 2-0, 6-4 were all too common. Softball is a game about scoring, unlike hardball where is is a pitchers game. A few weeks later, the "D" Worlds were in Orlando (the same time as the Major) and I witnessed once again, people outraged and not happy at all. Again, most scores were single digit games eniding in 30 minutes or less. Fun? Most outfielders were standing on the "co-ed" lines and squeezing batters something horribly. Many sponsors were saying they will not support this again and look elsewhere to play (NSA, ISA, etc) I beleive your comment of the Major & Major+ being closer competative is further from the truth. The more powerful teams will prevail, if not hitting them over the fence, at lest htiing over outfielders heads and expanding the distance of the field to play while lessore power teams will be cheated and pinched.
I thought SSUSA was about using good equipment & allowing players to hit & score. If SSUSA goes with a dead ball, they will lose players, teams & sponsors alike. Why not just go play "E" ball in the men's open division? No different. All this talk about safety? Can anyone give me a direct percentage of number of plate appearances from every player that played this past season and how many sever injuries occurred to pitchers? I bet it's right about the same as being struck by lightning. Life is not without risk, especially any type of sport. There was much greater risk flying in the airplane & driving to the field than you getting stuck and seriosly injured on the playfield, no matter what ball is used.
Jan. 8, 2009
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Balls

I've seen mentioned about changing the ball. Is the same ball being used for the 2009 season as was used in 2008? What was the 2008 ball in comparison to people pushing the 275/525? Going to a softer ball will further gap the distance between the Major & Major+ category.
Dec. 10, 2007
hitit
Topic: Bats
Discussion: UII, UII Legacy, Launch 510 Durability Issue

Easton WILL NOT be producing a senior bat for the 2008 season....but, is working on one for the future.
Sept. 15, 2006
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Doctored Bat in Seattle?

Maybe I didn't get my point across. If there is obvious signs of alteration, pain flaking off, endcap mangled, etc. then by all means there is reason for necessary action if the TD deems it necessary. But, to have bat manufacturers the "experts" on site to flag bats that may or may not be altered, especially bats that are not made by their own company is going to get out of control. And, I just don't want to get all caught up in 50+ bat protest a tournament from overzealous players & coaches. Just as big a deal, I hope the first bat that comes back proven as non-altered, that the person that had the bat protested covers the cost of the player that may had to go out and buy a new bat while his was being inspected for 2-3 weeks or more. I saw a post elsewhere where this was the case.
Sept. 15, 2006
hitit
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Doctored Bat in Seattle?

Why is "Trumpball" (Anaconda bat rep) in charge of determining if a bat in queston (not an Anaconda bat, but a competators bat: Easton, Miken) appears to be altered? Isn't that the responsibility of the tournament director? It sure looks like conflicting interest here, especially if Anaconda reps had possesion of these bats before they were sent for independant inspection. The motive is obvious. If I am swinging anything other than what bat representatives are present, they can take my bat (do whatever they want to it) and send it in for inspection. If I don't give the bat it's an automatic 2 year suspension. What trust do I have in giving up my bat in the future. If it's a "good ole boys" club and they want to make an expample out of someone, you have no defense in the case. There whould be a way of protecting the player (if indeed the bat is un-altered) to ensure the bat is sealed in a container and shipped directly for inspection rather than have it float around in peoples posession that have no business touching the bat. I wonder, did these players: mark the bat in a way to prove it's their bat (sign the bat, take a picture of holding the bat with a characteristic mark, etc), get a receipt from the party taking the bat, etc? This deal in Seattle sounds like a givernment operation...."we're from the government and here to help you.....! This is a bad way to market the Anaconda bat.....strong-arm tactics. I'll stay with my U2.
Senior Softball-USA
Phone: (916) 326-5303
Fax: (916) 326-5304
2701 K Street, Suite 101A
Sacramento, CA 95816
Send us e-mail
Senior Softball-USA is dedicated to informing and uniting the Senior Softball Players of America and the World. Senior Softball-USA sanctions tournaments and championships, registers players, writes the rulebook, publishes Senior Softball-USA News, hosts International Softball Tours and promotes Senior Softball throughout the world. More than 1.5 million men and women over 40 play Senior Softball in the United States today. »SSUSA History  »Privacy policy

Follow us on Facebook

Partners