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Nancy Allen

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Indianapolis, IN

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Men's 55

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July 13, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Courtesy Runners from the plate

HJ, I definitely get the senior moment. The people in senior and special olympic leagues that needed this could not run; so if your example keeps getting out, maybe he should wait to get that courtesy runner at first for now (tell him Nancy said so - silly girl). League special rules are sometimes the oddest ones ever. I have a league that I do that the courtesy runner cannot go more than on base. Of course the ball stays live; so sometimes the young runner gets out trying to get back to that bag after passing it. Another one the courtesy runner can only be the last batted out; so if you are in the first inning, there may not be one, so no runner available. I agree with some of the others on this one, especially since it is almost always just a force out at first. Since the runner in question should not confuse the fielders on the force, I think the league should save the chalk and eliminate the line. Maybe you could tie a rope to your repeat offender or just let him run for himself to first.
July 11, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: who's goin to ISA WORLDS Columbus Indiana

I guess no Fat Nancy's since it is right in between the Northeast and Eastern. So I will have to wish for the next Brickyard. I plan to spend some time in Columbus for the ISA; so that is about as close of a siting as anyone will have. So good luck to all playing the ISA. It should be a great tournament. Be sure and add it to your schedule. I am still rooting for those NY FOG in their tournaments too.
July 11, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Courtesy Runners from the plate

Wow, I have only ever seen a courtesy runner at leagues in Shelbyville (held onto rope tied to backstop that had to hold onto until ball hit) and special olympics (runner had to stay behind a line until ball was hit). The line you talk about is an interesting twist, but why would a batter even run if they had a courtesy runner from the plate? I am not even going to wager a guess on what should be done since the batter should not run at all. I was always more concerned about the runner leaving early because they were behind me.
June 15, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Bat Weights & Bat Doughnuts

When Ray D had his series, he said that using a Wiffle ball bat was the best exercise. I believe the reason was more about training the muscles and helping increase your bat speed before swinging your real bat, but I would have to look for the video since I do not trust my memory right now. I just remember that we kept one in Coachie's bat bag. Of course Ray was the one that trained all of you to give up your 36, 38 ounce bats in the first place with the concept of bat speed. I have yet to hit a home run, but Ray also made it much easier for me to even find a bat under 30 ounces which really helped my batting. I still remember being delighted at finding a 29 ounce Tennessee Thumper because it was the lightest one that I ever had. My favorite is a 25.5 EST, but most of mine are 26 bats. I could never bring myself to use a fast pitch bat.
May 20, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Unusual play

Saw it once in league play at Metro. A really good team was playing a much weaker team. Batter bangs one to the outfield fence. He and his buddy ahead of him laughed and carried on as they went around the bases for the in the park homerun. The weak team did not give up and kept relaying the ball in. About 10 feet from the runners making it to the scoring line, the catcher gets the ball for the force, double play. The looks on the runners' faces were priceless.
May 6, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Cant decide on a senior bat

I heard a couple of players speak highly of the TOC Ultra II last weekend which is available at the Senior Softball Store link. Mikens have always had a little too much vibration when I make contact with the ball for my small paws. I always seem to do better with Worth bats, but I have one Mizuno that I really like. Of course I only hit home runs in my dreams; so my bats may not even be capable of hitting one even in your capable hands. Of course my belief has always been that it is the archer, not the arrow anyway. You find me a bat that I can hit a home run with, then it should be illegal to use. ;-)
April 28, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Game Schedules & Brackets

Knowing Dave, he will post it as soon as he lands. You will not find someone who does more on negative hours of sleep than him. I checked with Tim, and he said that you were welcome to have batting practice on the open fields.
April 25, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: IS IT A CATCH

Webbie, you know the rules. You can only wear a glove on your foot if you wear a boot on your hand.
April 25, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Brickyard Game Schedules & Brackets

Curt, I am only Dave's sidekick for the week, and he is working his tail off in LV; so let me try to help you. I double checked with office, and you can bring the form with you. Also on the tournament page the location listed is at the park. I am guessing from other posts that you have a 50 team.
April 16, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bill Allen

Steve, you were right there with me and Butch. I hope to see you soon. I will never forget the care that you treated Bill with when his father passed while we were playing in Plano. He adored you, and I do too. Maybe we will get a chance to use that old Broadsider in Columbus or on one of Ralph's Saturday batting practices in Indy. Thanks for reminding me about it. You will always be our kid from Indiana.
April 15, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bill Allen

I want to thank everyone for making these events very meaningful which really helped me after this and the awful winter. I will cherish the stories told for the rest of my life. I want to give a special thank you to Lee Sullivan and Tim Fishburn for presiding over the respective events and also give a specials thanks to Butch Drake, Johnny Gannon, Denny Niendorf, and Jeff Case for all of your support to me and love of our buddy Bill Allen, Coachie. Terry, Fran, and Dave, thank you for helping me with remembering Bill for senior softball.

...but as Bill would say once the memorials were done, "Play ball".

I looking forward to seeing everyone at the Brickyard.
April 3, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Introducing the latest technology

There used to be a group in Missouri that challenged others to come to their park and play wiffle ball against them. The design of their diamond was pretty interesting. They could quickly swap backstop with outfield to work better with the wind. We never went there, but they also had 2 models of metal wiffle ball bats for sale, and I bought them for Coachie. After the teams would leave at Metro on Sunday night, we played wiffle ball against each other for hours into the early hours of Monday morning on Diamond 1. One of them was more prone to denting. We had more fun on those nights/mornings, but now I am going to have to look for those bats because I know that he kept everything but the Tidal Wave. Did I mention that he was an only child and a little spoiled by his parents and me?

Best Metro Stadium trivia, when Eight Men Out was filmed, they were at Metro for I think a couple of weeks. The only part that appeared in the movie was the very last scene with Shoeless Joe Jackson (there is about 5 minutes on YouTube). I get sort of choked up when I watch that scene (that is not in New Jersey) because I love that little park. Coachie and I almost lived there for 13 years, and it was there that he saw the NSA senior world series and decided that he wanted to play senior softball.
April 3, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bill Allen

Thank you everyone for your kind words and actions during this difficult time for me.

There will be 2 celebrations of life for Bill Allen next week in Indy.

April 10 4:45 Metro Sports Complex Diamond 1
April 11 5:30 Midwest Sports and Social Complex Diamond 3

In case of bad weather at either park, we will meet in their upstairs concession area.

At both celebrations, I want to encourage you to bring stories of Bill Allen that you would like share.

Dress is casual or softball attire. We want #12 Coachie to recognize us.
April 3, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Introducing the latest technology

Webbie and Imlay, thanks for this mental diversion. Coachie never wanted the curve handled bat. We were sponsored by One Cryo for a couple of years, and it was more durable than the Demarini and had good pop. There are some really old Demarinis in that collection too. The one bat that I could probably never part with is a black prototype EST. We were at a tournament (won't post just in case rep still works for Worth), and Coachie really wanted it. Near the end of the tournament, I was able to convince the Worth rep to sell it to me (at the time I was young, cute, and had cash). Coachie was working at Metro, and the Indiana Worth bat rep and showed him their new EST's which included the blue one with the small knob. Coachie told him that he had a black bat like that. The rep told him that he didn't because there were only a few prototypes made like that, and only the reps got them. Of course he goes to his bat bag in his office and brings it back. The rep wanted to know where he got it, and of course he told him from his wife. That bat is the most durable that I have ever seen, any everyone liked the grip with the small knob. It made it through Red Dots and his A players hitting with it in the Armory in St. Louis where we played indoor, winter ball. The new blue, green, and red ESTs that Worth released that year all really dented easily. The red was my favorite bat ever for me, 26 oz and hit so well. It only lasted because I would not let the boys hit with it. I bought the newer model a few years later, and it was not as good but better than the bats that I had used for years. Steve, if you make it home to Columbus, I will see if I can dig out that Broadsider for us to hit with. Thanks, guys.
April 3, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Introducing the latest technology

Coachie was a bat collector. The only one that he ever actually let go was the water bat because he had a friend that really wanted it. I think it was called a Tidal Wave. It froze and broke over a winter in his barn. Now the Broadsider is still here, which is the 3 sided bat. The biggest problem was hitting the ball squarely on a flat side. If you hit it and caught the points, it was not so great. Of course these were aluminum bats. Thank you, Ray Demarini, for shaking up that concept and all of those 36 and 38 ounce bats you guys used back then. I remember having a really hard time finding even a bat as light as 30 which was still way too heavy for me, but I used that Tennessee Thumper for years before Demarini changed the bat world forever, and there were actually light bats available to improve our bat speed when swinging.
April 1, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OBSTRUCTION

Garocket, sorry to frustrate you. It is a Nancy Allen opinion and expression only what I call Heart Rules because players get emotional without knowing the actual rules, and they will usually never let it go because they get emotional which also has nothing to do with common sense. You do not need to agree with me, but I have seen this many times over the years with the situations that I described being the most common in my experience.

I do find it very interesting that any umpire clinic would ever tell the umpires about a rule making sense or not. I have never heard that in all the ones that I have been to over the years. There have been rules over the years that I did not agree with, but as an umpire it is my job to enforce the rules as they are, not as how I think or feel that they should be. Sometimes those rules change if there are enough issues with them; sometimes the changes are even worse.

I really have no opinion on the situation described. I was not there; so I do not have enough information to really comment on it. I do not have a pony in this race; I just thought that I would share something from an umpire's perspective; so I am not agreeing or disagreeing with anybody. I think that we only learn by discussion, maybe not though.
March 31, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OBSTRUCTION

Jonesy and Garocket, you have fallen into what I call Heart Rules. Players interpret with their emotions instead of the rules. The worst ones are this (Jonesy, thank you for using the word obstruction; I usually get the player yelling "Interference" passionately when my arm is extended for the delayed dead ball waiting on the outcome), the perception of out of the box when a player is not by the rule, the "Blue, he was in fair territory when he touched the ball" when it is based on the trajectory of the ball which was foul, and sometimes the infield fly when a player is just sure that it is a dead ball. Do we as umpires always call this 100% correct based on our judgment? Sometimes not, but we should have a better understanding of the rules, but judgment is judgment after all. Will I or any umpire ever be able to convince you that we used the rules when making the ruling? Probably never. Will you talk about how it upset you in the parking lot over cold beverages? Of course. Will you ever completely understand unless you try umpiring and get some experience? It is OK; the answer is "No". I could never even convince Coachie at least on the is the ball fair or foul based on the position the fielder instead of the ball; so I gave up trying. I can hear him now saying "Stupid rule then". Would any rule change ever fix this? Never until eternity. It is OK; we as umpires are used to it. You are not going to change your mind's, and you are not going to change ours. Softball and life still go on. ;-)
March 23, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Fat Nancy's Challenge

Hey, Corky, I've been right here. They play indoor at Sports Park too. What Steve and I talked about was indoor senior qualifiers and an indoor senior world. There are a lot of facilities that play indoor in the Midwest, but there is no competitive senior program. The facility that you are at is where the last NSA Indoor World Series was held long, long ago. I played coed in it; so you know it was ancient history.
March 19, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Fat Nancy's Challenge

We were just voted #3 for best downtowns by Livability http://www.livability.com/top-10/top-10-best-downtowns-2014/indianapolis/in, and this is a great picture of our downtown canal http://www.livability.com/top-10/top-10-best-downtowns-2014. They color it green for St. Patrick's Day. I really just hope that people come here because of the nice complex and good competition.

I think that my softball goals are pretty small this year:
1. Get Fat Nancy's to play in Indiana
2. Further pursue senior indoor softball which Steve Simmons and I often talked about. Those of us in the snow belt states need a way to stay engaged in playing since we cannot play outside unless we go snowbird.
March 17, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: CHICAGO CLASSICS BOBCATS PITCHER PASSES

My prayers go out to his loved ones. He once said to Coachie and me "You bring the beer, and we'll bring the steaks, and we'll meet somewhere between Chicago and Indy and play games all day." I think that he knew steaks would be cheaper. We had traveled everywhere and kept playing each other; so it was a pretty good suggestion, wish we had done it.
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