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Nancy Allen

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Indianapolis, IN

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Men's 55

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June 11, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Smoky Mtn.

Sparky.1, I would rather that they blame me for losing, dropped balls, hitting the wrong pitch, etc. because I am going sleep alright that night, and I would like for them to also.
June 11, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Smoky Mtn.

In our ASA clinics here, we are taught to treat the runner hitting the white as a live ball appeal, and believe me, I can call time before you can appeal it. I wish all associations would adopt this (OK, Dave, maybe this year I will put it in writing and try to sell). So it is on the defense to get it. I will try to see if I can copy the actual rule in here later (hopefully it confirms this).

We use older umpires during the week because they are generally much better with senior rules and 12' arch. Some of them cannot handle more than 4 games any more. I disagree with the choice of the younger umpires. The park here only pays the umpires $2 more for the longer, senior games, and I have yet to have one of them complain about that.


June 11, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Smoky Mtn.

Graphite, I have not been down there in years, but in my experience it was always that way. History and the experience were always the draw.

Garyhitter59, I would hope that I am more approachable than the umpire that you describe. However if you made sure to position yourself in front of the backstop and bad mouth me, especially in more than your inside voice, I would probably hook you too. It happened to one of my best friends about 20 years ago; it was how we first met. He ended up umpiring because of me.

Now in full disclosure, I threw my own husband and the other coach for verbally fighting. It was his only ejection too, and he deserved it. Unfortunately we rode in the same car that day, what a long car ride home. Of course the joke for years in tournaments was, "Careful; she threw out her own husband, and she loves him".
June 9, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Old stories of bat doctoring

Rpaulas, I do not; I have never spoken with the man. Oddly enough 2 years ago during a tournament a couple of NSA directors went out there with bats, and he did them on the spot before they told him who they were. He was still back the next tournament.

Tattoball, you know the 40s and over have been after me every night to hit your Nightmare before the games. Hey, if that is how I get them into senior softball, more power to us; they love that bat. I already have gotten 3 from the park (Charney aka Oren Alexander) addicted to playing 50 and over tournaments. When we had our last senior league at Midwest, there were only 3 teams in the competitive league; so they were not going to be able to have it. I told them since our guys were older that we would be the fourth team if we could have no more than 2 45 - 47 year olds. I had a total of 4 guys that I used, no more than 2 at a time, and I am happy to report that they all got addicted and play senior tournaments. I know that I told you this, but the one guy took a 3/4 swing, and it went over the trees and the railroad tracks. He handed it to me and said, "Please take it away. This must be what addictive drugs feel like." I was rolling, too young for Nightmares.
June 7, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Old stories of bat doctoring

Rpaulas, it is too bad you are not in Indy. There is a guy that does it in the back of his van during big tournaments. He is never at Midwest or Metro but shows up regularly at another park. He has even been busted by some of the associations but keeps coming back.

The guy with the tennis balls is glad that I did not call him out here. It is more fun to still heckle him all these years later. This is not CSI Softball.
June 5, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Old stories of bat doctoring

In a tournament in West Newton, a guy swung his aluminum bat, hit the ball, and tennis balls came flying out of the end.
June 3, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: infield fly rule

Stick8, good call. The most crazy situations that I have had all seem to be coed. The best one involved the runner on 2nd taking off, and 2 runners ended up at 3rd. The team in the field wasted about 3 minutes trying to figure out what to do. They stomped 2nd a couple of times, no force out, no leaving early. So they all get together behind where a shortstop would be, and the runner walks back to 2nd. Then I call time. They did not argue; they were just really confused and asked a lot of questions at the 1/2 inning.


May 29, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: infield fly rule

What? When the batter is out, there is no force play at 3rd. Since it was not caught although considered a routine pop up, there can also not be a force play for the runner leaving 3rd early. Maybe he had a hot date and wanted to leave early?
May 28, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: Seeking Players for Tournaments in Shelbyville,Indiana and Columbus,Indiana

I was fortunate to meet this team in Indy. This is a very classy AA team, and I really enjoyed talking with them and watching them play. My parents met in Champaign; so I had a special connection to them right away.
May 21, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: rain delay rules

I am glad that you got your games in. Not to belittle your concern, but to hopefully make you a little grateful, the park here that has the most adult tournament games in this situation goes 45 minutes and 1 pitch until they catch up. They have also cancelled the losers' bracket in the worst conditions.

They had to something to shorten games, and I think changing the count changes the game more than reducing the innings. I am sure the committee weighed all options which is better than one person making the call. You know that there was at least some thought and discussion put into it.

May 19, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ball B.S. In lee county

Alan, I just know that shipment was really good, and we all know what people try back at the motel.

17black, since you were playing in it, I go with what you say. The 5 days kind of blended together. So maybe we were pretty close to Florida conditions.

Neck10, the gate is closed, but the balls are still going through it. Now that is the field that I call mine, and it has a few problems. I only wish that I had been doing that game since he was having such a bad time. He said that he has sworn off doing seniors ever again. It may have been Coachie messing with him.
May 19, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ball B.S. In lee county

Alan, the Stotes were stored in a room without air conditioning at the park. I do not know how many were stored in refrigerators or freezers at local motels.
May 19, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ball B.S. In lee county

I used to know so much about balls, but now I just defer to the experts. Thanks, guys, you know who you are. The Brickyard went 5 days. The first 3 were fairly cool; the last 2 were a little warm and humid. We had zero complaints on the Stote. I know there are better balls, but there were still plenty of balls that made it past the 305' fence.
May 10, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: USSSA STYLE PITCHING IN SENIOR SOFTBALL

Joe, thanks for your opinion. I am guessing that these comments came from what I said. I have umpired Utrip at all levels and enjoy that part of it but would never play it. It is deceptive; batter has to ask for time, and almost everything else is a strike. It has no comparison to baseball as their pitchers do not fake or pump or do any other types of tricks. Yes, fake is a synonym for deception as is trick. It may have its place, and I hold my wrist whenever I umpire it because I am used to keeping time for batters to keep pitchers from quick pitching a batter; I cannot do that in Utrip. In Utrip they are trying to fool (another synonym for deception). The batter. My opinions are my own, and I am not trying to get you to change yours any more than you will ever change mine. I will continue to umpire it but not play it. The other associations do promote good sportsmanship. I can give time in the box to protect the batter from pitchers motivated to quick pitching. I am not criticizing Utrip only acknowledging the differences as someone that has a lot more experience on the field than most people.

Actually I do think Utrip gets it when it comes to seniors. They finally allow senior bats and do not allow traditional Utrip pitching. This is not the way seniors play. When we all dead and gone, do what you want.
May 8, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ISA Senior World Series Columbus Indiana ???

17Black, I could tell that you did your homework talking with you last week. We had a team for 10 years, and I wish that it was the same experience as yours. Your team is a class act, and I was glad to get to know them a little better than I did before. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find your way to the TOC with the tournaments that you select. It must be a great experience to travel and play with your friends.
May 8, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ISA Senior World Series Columbus Indiana ???

17Black, I saw that, but I knew that you would also notice this. We usually seem to have a little better draw on the Majors here in Indy for whatever reason. I noticed when I was looking that you played in the Northern Championships last year, but you did not play in the Northeast Championships in Syracuse. They also had 3 50 upper teams (2 major, 1 major plus) last year, but I am thinking that they were ones that you might not see as much. While I always like for teams to come to Indiana events, I also disliked traveling long distances to play the same teams all the time. That seldom happened to us in SSUSA events, but we went all the way to Plano one time to play in a 5 team bracket to play against our local Brickyard team 3 times and never even played the Fossils. I am sure that you will do the right thing by your team, and if there is anything that I can do, please just ask. Chuck Sharkey is the NY director, and I am sure that he would be glad to help you if you think Syracuse might fit your needs. I met him earlier in the year, and he was pretty easy to talk with. His contact information is on this site.
May 8, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: USSSA STYLE PITCHING IN SENIOR SOFTBALL

Webbie, I like the wooden bat idea. I have a picture in my head of you guys playing it in old time baseball uniforms though.

I watched 16" ball played in Chicago, and up there it is strictly no glove defense.

Also Utrip senior softball is not the only one that defers to "our" rules. ASA and ISA do not allow stealing (base burglar) in their senior divisions.
May 8, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: USSSA STYLE PITCHING IN SENIOR SOFTBALL

...and even the senior portion of Utrip does not allow their pitching style. Utrip pitching in all other divisions but seniors is about deception. Senior softball is about sportsmanship and playing. So it would never work, kid.
May 6, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ISA Senior World Series Columbus Indiana ???

Jerry Jackson runs the tournament and usually brings his own crew and handles everything. I have gone to visit in Columbus and some other locations that it has been in the past, but I have never analyzed it by divisions before. I did a little searching on this site, and while you can find some lists of team names from prior years, last year the actual bracket was posted on the site (found the links in one of the messages). This is the 50s to save you the search http://seniorsoftball.com/wc/wc2014/ISA-14-50.pdf.

Columbus is a very nice, smaller city. Lincoln Park is one of the nicest softball facilities in Indiana and has a long history of senior softball leagues and tournaments.


May 5, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: new umps

I wish that you had told me that you were Rich33. I guess my handle is just too easy to figure out. I hope to see you somewhere soon. Good luck.
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