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Nancy Allen

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Jan. 31, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Facing one batter

Of course I would have to have been there to really be sure, but the umpire side of me is thinking that there is a clock running down. You said the pitcher is STILL putting on his equipment, and you have time to warm up the infield. My inclination with adults would be to award a ball on the batter as a remedy to try to get a team to institute a little hustle on getting ready to play defense without wasting precious time. Now that is not the remedy in 5.10(3) and does not fit 1.54 for declaring "play ball"; so now I get to have some lively discussions with others. Do we need to think about time limits like the younger guys have? For them it is easy, get the batter in the box, call play ball, and for the time listed in their rule books, give the batter a ball for as long as it takes the defense to get ready. I ended up with a batter on 1B once in a regional years ago, but that defensive team made sure to be ready after that (it actually ended up to their advantage because the next batter hit into a double play).

I know this will not be a popular thought, but remember that the umpire has the responsibility to keep control of the game and keep it moving along. It was not fair to the batting team if the defense was using up the clock. This might be fine in leagues but not tournament play. Everyone knows that there are 3 outs per half inning and should be ready to switch from offense to defense.
Jan. 26, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What to do with trophies, uniforms, tee-shirts?

Midwest, our local softball park, gets so many things that get turned into the lost and found each year which are never claimed that Tim does what he calls "bag and tag" and donates them to the local Boys Club. I have donated things in the past to Special Olympics. There is also a potential tax write-off; so keep a list of what you donate.
Jan. 15, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: nw indiana player

cop298, you might want to include contact information to give coaches a way to start a conversation. southerinman did in an earlier post. Just remember that if you do not have any luck that the Brickyard is in Indy in May for 50s, and there should be several teams that you would be eligible to play on and be able to see first hand. You could meet the coaches there. The competitive senior leagues start in April at Metro, and a few of the younger seniors play there. Good luck in finding teams to both of you, and let me know if there is anything I can do to help you.
Jan. 8, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: An Old(er) Post for Southpaw

Southpaw, I will hope this thread does not become a hijack victim, but I had something happen today that made me think of what you were trying to say.

So today is Elvis' 80th birthday, and the radio is playing Return to Sender for it. I explained to my older friend (59) that the "no such zone" was because we used to have postal zones before we had zip codes. Now we lived in Indy, and ours was 20 (now 46220), but he grew up in rural Indiana which may have made the difference of why he had never heard of that.

Of course the conversation got into when the first 2 digits of a phone number were shown as letters (ours was TI9) and party lines. Coachie remembered when one of the main streets in Indy (Washington) was all brick, and when there was a cable car running on it. He also remembered pigeon shoots on the Circle downtown. He had about a decade on me though.

I would love to see some of our technical wizard kids in a room with a dial telephone and a TV with no remote control just to see what they do.
Jan. 4, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Tim, I appreciate the apology. I know circumstances are different there than here. We have not had a 65 minute time limit for over 20 years in leagues. Of the two largest parks here, one dropped to 55 minutes this year, and the other does not allow another inning to start if the game clock is under a minute (why not just set the clock to 59 minutes?). I think the only thing left for them to shorten the game on us is to start with one out each half inning or limit us to less total innings, probably both eventually.

I grew up with 0-0; so as with increased taxes, I feel something has been taken away. For seniors, it is a little bit more about respect to me. I figure that having survived softball this long that players deserve all they can get since every at bat could be their last. So my focus is more on individual batters than the game as a whole. Both of us will feel how we do which is fine. With attrition of those of us who started playing 0-0, you will probably get your 1-1 count some day.

One thing I found interesting was at a Utrip regional that I umpired a few years ago, in our meeting before the tournament, the UIC went to great lengths to explain to us that Utrip did not have a 1-1 count. He said it was a 0-0 count, they just had one less ball and strike. I guess it all depends on your perspective. My indicator has 4 balls and 3 strikes; so I still set it at 1-1, no matter what he said.
Jan. 3, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 2015 Tournament sites

Curt, I hope to see you at the Brickyard in Indy this year; 50s are the first weekend in May, and you can call the SSUSA office to sign up. Just be patient, it was much harder figuring out team schedules so early in the year before the internet exploded, and even the senior associations should get to enjoy the holidays with their real families. Happy New Year. May your hits be plentiful and all your parts work.
Jan. 3, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Southpaw, I love your thread's original message. I apologize if my response to a bad assumption that seniors are afraid of a 1-1 count caused a hijack. Hug your wife a lot because every day we wake up is a good one.

Mad dog, I never said anything about losing time or innings. I was only explaining how the 1-1 count was started here. I prefer 0-0, and you may prefer 1-1. It's OK, there is room for both of us. I just happen to fit the demographic that Dave has had to explain a million and one times. I promise if MLB or senior softball goes to a 1-1 that I will go peacefully with zero arguments. Heck, even ASA dropped their arch to 10 feet, Utrip got rid of the extra foul, and NSA adopted the 1-1 count; so anything is possible.

Getting old often causes some people to think that only their opinion is the only way; so let's stay young and open minded. I value all of your thoughts and opinions even if they do not match my own. So leave this thread alone, and call me if you want to.

Southpaw, let's answer that bat phone; it's for us.
Jan. 3, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Bruce, I am glad that we agree on yet another part of the game. I remember the first time that I met you in Georgia when your team kept getting nailed by obscure NSA rules. I have really enjoyed our conversations over the years. I hope to catch up with you again some day. The last time we talked in person, I believe we were in Texas. Who knows maybe this year?

OK, everyone else, I hardly ever share my opinion on charged topics, but since I did, let me share one other that I rarely mention since it was thrown at me in this thread. I really don't like being called Nance. Nan, Nancy, or other nick names are fine. My nick names at the ball park here are Juliet and Nsquared. These are great after game stories if I am ever fortunate enough to get in a conversation with any of you. With 30 years of softball behind me, I have enough stories for a book; so be prepared. I have seen the sun come up many times at the ball park when we get to talking softball. I love this game.
Jan. 3, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Tim, we all have our own opinions which makes life interesting. Please do not throw an I-bomb on me for that; I respect that your thoughts are different than mine. I thought that I worded it carefully enough, but let me try again. Here in Indy it was introduced as a way to cheat players once again. I do not know about where you live and play. Here in Indy we have seen many things introduced over the years that were designed to shorten games which in my opinion only were designed to cheat teams out of playing time. Teams pay over $600 for leagues here, and every year a park seems to find another way. This year it was dropping the game time to 55 minutes and mandatory flip flop in the last inning with a 5 run difference.

Also I have umpired major Utrip tournaments many times, and as an umpire, I like that it is different because I like shaking the game up, but I would not play it. Many of our umpires refuse to do the plate because they were raised ASA and would rabbit for me doing the plate only. I don't have a pony in the race and enjoy doing different 'styles' of softball.

From what I have been told, Utrip senior softball uses senior rules. Is that your experience?

I hope that I am more open minded than most people because I value being viewed as fair. There is room for all of our opinions, but we all must deal with the rules at the time.
Jan. 2, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Tim, on number 6, I think you meant pinch instead of pitch, but they are actually courtesy runners; this is only important when informing the umpire because there is a difference. I respectfully disagree with number 2 because at least here, the 1-1 count was started as a way to shorten games (another way to cheat players out of a full game as is a one pitch in extra innings or a 55 minute clock). Please no one jump on this to open the old argument, I am fine that everyone has their own opinion on this. You may be just a little younger than me or brought up on Utrip and be used to a 1-1 count; most players here have never played with anything else because once one park did it, they all changed to try and shorten games. So I am not a fan of it because of the way that it was started here as another way to take something from the players. I tell our umpires here that with senior softball to always remember that it could be their last at bat every time they come up to the plate and to give them that respect because let's face it, it could be.

I also tease that they use Poligrip for their bat grip instead of pine tar.

For the 80s, I tell them welcome to 80 and over softball. Pick one:

Hitting
Running
Fielding
Throwing

They always pick hitting.
Jan. 2, 2015
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

Southpaw, as long as you are not purchasing matching bed pans, you are probably OK. Be grateful every day to have your partner.

One of my favorite lines on the subject is that we in senior softball know everything there is to know about softball...we just have problems remembering it.
Dec. 31, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Passing of Terry McClaskey

John, thank you for sharing this. My heart is broken because Terry and I had so many good talks over the years, and he was always so supportive and helpful to me in our dealings. I know that Coachie will watch after him, and they are probably playing with or against each other right now. I know that we always had a good game when our team, INDY FOG, played against the Silverados. If there is anything that I can do to help the team or its members, please do not hesitate to ask. If the team travels to the Brickyard this year, we can plan a memorial at the park, or if they attend any Indiana tournament, let me know, and I will come share prayers and hugs with you. The team and family are in my prayers. 2015 has to be a better year; we have lost too many of our senior softball community this year.
Dec. 30, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: The TOC

I curious to all because I am not sure how players/teams feel. I know we always looked forward to the November tournaments because they were the play ahead ones where we could bring players that would not be eligible until the next calendar year. This not only gave them an opportunity to play, but also was a chance to play with our possible "new" team. Now the TOC is all about the winners which means the bulk of the senior teams are not the winners. So for the very small percentage that are eligible, congratulations, but this discussion seems to ignore the bigger group that are not eligible and are playing with the hope of some day being able to be a TOC team. Remember these play ahead tournaments have been around much longer than the TOC and are very well attended and enjoyed. So is everyone commenting just the winners or one of the majority that are not? Thanks.
Dec. 18, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Thank you for your support.

Corky, that is really touching. Thanks.
Dec. 17, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: player qualification

Fisherman, you gave a good clue in an earlier post because you stated that you were 75. The trick now is the team from Minnesota 70 or 75? It also looks like you asked earlier about contacting the team that Steve plays on. I left his contact information on your other post. They are a 75 team. Except for one team here, our older guys often call me for help with the internet. So it is nice to see a 75 that knows how to use it. Good luck, kid.
Dec. 17, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: looking for new team

You can call Steve at 317-796-9174, and he said that he may be able to help you. We have several teams here that you would be eligible for in Indiana, and I will try to help you keep playing. Feel free to contact me at 317-212-6310.
Dec. 15, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Thank you for your support.

Rick, Jo was well loved in life and at the ball park. She was one of the only wives that would come out to watch the games, and I always liked seeing and talking with her because she was a great girl. We both lost our spouses right before our wedding anniversaries, but we were fortunate to have them for the time that we did. I know that the senior softball community has been integral in getting me through this, and I hope that you have the same experience. You are in my prayers.
Oct. 9, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: Website comments
Discussion: Choosing Home team vs Visitor

As someone who took the flip for a senior team for 10 years, whenever I won the flip, I always chose to bat...second,
Sept. 29, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: BLD Las Vegas help

Thank goodness the turf field is gone here, but you have no idea how scary a "true" hop can be. The ball picks up speed whenever it touches the turf. I always suggested throwing it to each other with a bounce between you first. If you start with a bat, someone might be going to the hospital. There are different turf heights; so I hope they figured it out, and I hope your experience is different. I will have to look at the facility closer because there were also runner issues with the turf. When it was all turf, we had people sliding into the outfield because they could not stop, especially at second. Once they made cut outs around the bases, there were issues due to the change in the field composition under your cleats, especially rounding third. I would guess with the baseball theme that you would have green and brown turf or green turf with dirt cut outs.

Good luck at the World Championships and enjoy your games at BLD.
Sept. 18, 2014
Nancy Allen
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Nightmare bat approved

Gary, the website is in Kevin's original post. Thanks, Steve. I am just so fortunate that Bill left me this legacy of softball. It has definitely gotten me through some tough times this year. Too bad I do not have an engineering background because imagine the bat that I would create and dedicate. Kevin, thanks for reminding us that we keep those that go before us alive.
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