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Nov. 17, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: California/Florida Bordering rules

Pushin60:"500 senior teams in California? "

Sorry; did not mean tourney teams. I was leaning on my frail memory. I only know of about 10 Senior Teams in Ga & that includes tourney teams; probably are more.

JMO: I'd think that Ca & Fla would have many more than 200 senior teams statewide. Anyone have a more accurate figure?

Tater50
Nov. 16, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: California/Florida Bordering rules

Gary19: I am leaning on my frail memory; but I think Florida has 500+ senior teams (I am sure that is covered mainly by the FHC teams); someone correct me if I am wrong.

I imagine Ca has more than that.

I am from Ga & I'd say there are less than 10 Ga based teams that play SSb. I only know of 2 (Hobgood & Tolleson Pk) that have Senior Leagues; probably more , but that's all I know of.

Warner Robins had a small senior league a few years back, but I do not know about the present.


Tater50
Nov. 13, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Safety Questions

3rdbase: great point; when my daughter played Basketball in HS & College; everyone used a mouthguard. When she played SB in HS she used a mouthguard. So did my son when he played BB. I also notice that BB catchers use all sorts of protection even though they may go many games w/o a ball nicking them.

Errant bounces or whatever can result in severe results. I will NEVER say anything to anyone who protects themself, even if they look like Darth Vader.

Tater50
Nov. 9, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Christmas Tradition

Brett: good one!!!

My family has cut back big time on spending & we are cutting back on the Christmas presents this year; including travel; trying to save more on petro consumption.

Before last election (state); I eeeeed ALL my congressman asking them their position on 4 critical items (IMO) that really effect the USA. I told them if I did not receive supportive answers, I would vote against them.

1. Drilling into our own Oil reserves
2. Illegal Immigration
3. USA Welfare abuse
4. Foreign Welfare Abuse (Nations that love us when they want the handouts or when a castastrophe hits, but 6 months later, after sanity has been restored, they start slinging cow poop on us.)
I received NO answers & my whole family voted against them.

I will continue to lobby them on these issues, but now that you guys have opened up my eyes to other issues, will add those to my list.


Tater50
Nov. 5, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Dislike the Cold

1981 Rain Storm: playing in Marietta, Ga; team had us beat by 10 runs top of the 5th; we were @ bat & the Big Bucket Dropped & was covering everything; "no lightning". We wanted to call the game & start the next day & so did the ump; the other team protested vehemently, so we got together & told the coach (who was dry in the dugout); :If we win, you've got to slide head first into home after the game.

We beat them by 10 in the bottom of the 5th & we got our wish; head first slide by the coach; the good old days when we did not have as much in the upper portion of the body.

Tater50
Nov. 2, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Dislike the Cold

Am I the only bird that does not like to play in the cold; I mean below 50. I never complain about the heat, but I just dislike the cold. I guess it goes back to getting injured in a cold weather tourney in Feb. many years ago.

Pros & Cons

Tater50
IMO: God gives me 24 hrs.; what am I going to do with it!!!
Nov. 2, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: MYRTLE BEACH FIASCO!!!!!!!! SPA

Ridge: I think that he has had some health issues in the past, but I feel as others; if you give the proper feedback showing your discontent on a subject, then the right results will occur, because products get better as the customer replies on the use.

Years ago, the snowbird rule got pulled on our team in the SPA Plano tourney; according to the then rules, it was a FIASCO, but thru proper GENTLEMANLY feedback, I instituted a MASS EEEEE to SPA & got the rule changed for the better, the past 2 problems are best rectified, if MASS EEEE's are sent in a proper fashion showing each player's discontent.

I am sure it will be corrected by the next tourney.

Tater50
Nov. 2, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Associations
Discussion: SPA Question????

Jawood: don't think that is a good idea; I like SSUSA very much, but we need more than 1 org.

I have attended many SPA tourneys over the past 12 years & this is just a glitch @ MB.

At Pensy, everyone in the Park knew that the rosters of the 2 teams in question were Major or above, but before the tourney ended, it was corrected. Most ALL players know the CLASS ID of another player if he has been playing for any length of time.

I, for one, am for a data base that is @ every tourney, then every player's ID classification is known. Also, at every "renewal", your NEW ID number will be followed by AA, AAA, M or M+, so when the roster is filled in, there is NO doubt what class you play. Even at present, every player's class can be ID'd & players will have to add their class @ the end of their number until their renewed cards come.


Tater50
PS Still Need a Yearly Player Poll for other questions that we frequently talk about on this board in reference to ALL organizations.
Nov. 1, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: MYRTLE BEACH FIASCO!!!!!!!! SPA

Don Ward: great post!!! I did not attend due to work, but sounds like the glitches occurred & caught everyone off guard; Know that SPA will straighten it out.


Tater50
PS I am not on any board of SPA & never have been, but things can happen & I believe that Ridge & the crew will iron out the wrinkles.........give them a chance.
Nov. 1, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: MYRTLE BEACH FIASCO!!!!!!!! SPA

GaCMan: sorry for the problems that you had; know that you will continue to play SPA.

SoftballerK1 & mc4softball: I know that this is not fun to attend when things go wrong; but hope that you reconsider cause we need ALL Senior associations & SPA/Ridge has done a great job in the past. Hope you will give him time to make the corrections & adjustments; know he will do the right thing & have everything staightened out in 2012. The gentleman Mike D. is a great honorable person & I am sure there were some glitches that showed their faces that were unable to correct on short notice.


Tater50
Oct. 30, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: MYRTLE BEACH FIASCO!!!!!!!! SPA

GaCMan: does the roster that you use in MB count against you for 2012 or is this tourney consider a non-qualifier?

Tater50
Just a thought!!


Oct. 30, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Safety Questions

17Black: great observations & comments.

My thoughts are that you need to protect yourself; most people scoffed when seatbelts were introduced & I had a relative that never would wear one, thought it took away from his masculinity; but now it is the law. Think the law had a lot to do w/insurance companies, but the commercials are depicting that it saves lives, in that it does.

When I use a grass trimmer, the odds of something deflecting into my eyes are rare, but possible. I use safety glasses ALL the time & a glove on my left hand & wear long sleeves, because the line will deflect small particles that zoom like a rocket. Once in a while one hits my glasses & I think, could have damaged my eye.

Just like SBall: a pitcher or IFielder may never field a ball that takes an errant bounce, but there again, the odds are that one day it will.

A SS friend on mine on another team got hit up side the head on an awkward bounce & he is a very good fielder; next round & thereafter...............face mask. It only takes OOOONNNNEEE!!


Tater50

Oct. 27, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Safety Questions

Another angle to the questions:

Did you encourage your athletic children to use safety equipment? Or your grandchildren?
I positively did when my son played BB & my daughter played SB & Basketball in HS & college. One chipped tooth or one errant elbow can cost a lot.

Wonder if the first catcher in BB used any protective equipment?

If the assoc, require these protective actions; it is because the insurance companies are indicating so, to keep the premiums lower.

I look at the face shield, cups, shin guards as a smart move. Only got one face & the cup, well that is self-explanatory.

Gary19: that was one observation, but I did see many girls on TV in the Softball World Series FP (I think 12 & under) wearing them.

Let the individual wear what they will; & yes the bats are hotter, but there are guys that can take you out w/a broom stick.

Tater50
Oct. 27, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: How would you feel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim: I would not feel too bad it happens all the time. It is very hard to find guys that want to stay together all the time & the ones that do usually are the most competitive in SSball.

You did nothing wrong: know that you feel rough due to the fact that the 3 that left probably impacted your team & you feel a personal semi-guilt for their action.

I had a guy on my team in 04 that brought a friend to play, leadoff, great OFielder he told me. I started him in LO & OF & the whole tourney he was horrible; not just noobie nervousness, but just did not have it; so after about 3 games, I set him; he leaves & throws his unis in the back of one of the player's truck.

My player apologized to me big time; I told him no problem; I do not think he had seen him play in a long time & his skills had greatly diminished.

Tater50
PS I always say: if you have a team that stays together & have good chemistry; you'll have a great time & the wins will come. I see players that change teams almost every year & I have chnaged teams before; but I like to find a team & stick w/it.
Oct. 27, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Safety Questions

I see quite a few comments about pitchers wearing masks, double first base & split home plates.

At Dalton this year, I saw an entire girls team that were wearing masks, so I ask a parent if this was a new rule & he indicated that; "No, just all the players are trying to protect their face cause you only have one".

A little poll here:
Do you care if someone wears a masks & shin protection & if you think it is whacky, do you wear a cup & mouthgard if & when you play infield? Or if you played BB as a kid or young acult, did you wear this protection?

Personally: it is their body, if they want to dress up like Darth Vader, I have no problem with it cause I do not pay their bills.

Also, I like dbl bases for the safety of all players & if it came to a collision on 2B, I'd divert to some degree, cause I'd not want to hurt or get hurt. BTW: In 12 years, I have seen very few collisions in senior softball @ any base.

Tater50
Oct. 24, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Observation

Al33: I am like Rocky when Burgess Meredith was asking him how many he saw; He told him to hit the one in the middle.

I thought I saw 3 post by you but wasn't sure, so I read the one in the middle.

Bottom line: I play because I love the sport, do not like a lot of the rules, but I am on the inside & I will try to get a Player Poll to critique the rules.

There are many ways to save @ tourneys if you need to; heck I get extra boiled eggs # breakfast & put them in the fridge till later; makes a filling snack for me. Big Lots & Dollar Gen have some deals you can snack on & save a bunch.. Heck I have eaten things out of containers that I could not pronounce the name!!!


Webbie25: will ask you this question; when you went to the SSummit, how many players attended?

Tater50
Let's play cause we are getting older & when we go to the malls, we see guys our age barely moving.
Oct. 23, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Observation

17Black & others: As guys get older they realize they have less miles left than they have traveled; the shocks are worn out, the engine does not have the original HP or RPMs; the fuel is the same (cause most SSball players still drink beer); but everything has aged & we will never be new again.

So, they have to care for themselves better than in their youth, we are wiser & workout, take more BP than we ever did; cause we are entering the 7th inning & we only have a few swings left.

I play w/a team that LOVES to take BP; I never played on a team when I was young that loved BP. At tourneys; 99% of our team shows up for BP, whenever it is called.

We enjoy it more now & see the importance of competing one more year.

We hopefully have 24 hours today, what are we going to do with it; in saying that, I want to get outside.

Tater50
Oct. 23, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Observation

Gary19:"Who's not playing on here?"

Gary: correct me if I am wrong; but you do not play tournament ball. If you play in a league, do you play according to the old rules or do you use the present senior rules?

You bring up some good points, but if you do not play SSball Tourneys, you are like the member of a church that never attends or gives money, but is constantly telling the pastor & members what needs to be changed.

1B/Home safety bases: Most all seniors are still working, so they cannot afford broken or fractured bones in a collision. We do not heal like we did as kids.

Helmets: If the player wants to buy them, I don't care if they look like Darth Vader.

Special bats: I did not vote for them; IMO; someone can correct me if they know better; I believe that SS Associations were told by these groups (Like Florida Half Century; just an example) that their groups as a whole would not contend in tourneys if Senior Bats were not allowed; because they were already swinging the best bat & did not want to revert back, so the Assoc saw a way to involve more teams & they brought in SBats!!

CR's: they have their place, but still needs to be voted on in a Yearly Player Poll.

Tater50
Better to get into the tourney scene & change it from the inside, days/years are passing Gary; come on & get in. we are not getting any younger!!! Would like to see if I can hit some of your pitching!!!
Oct. 20, 2011
Tater50
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: courtesy runners

I believe w/all the contradictions to rules: a Yearly Player Poll would answer all these thoughts; but then what would we have to churn about on this board!!!!

BTW: went to the Dr & had a urine test; results?

1. You are old
2. You have bad hearing
3. You are a loudmouth
4. You can easily stretch a double into a single
5. You are fat & slow & always need a Courtesy Runner.


Tater50
Remember: cry about the tournament game & all its rules; play & try to get the rules changed or complain for 5 more years & while on your cane, look back & wish you would have played!!!
Oct. 18, 2011
Tater50
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Observation

I have been reading this board for 5+ years & seeing some of the same complaints. There are many things that I do not like, that's why a Yearly Player Poll is necessary.

Having said that; GaCMan I agree w/you & others; but I'd rather have played the last 12 years in SSball & enjoyed all the new friendships, wins & losses, than to have set at home complaining about SSball on my keyboard.

Tater50
Play now or complain for 5 more years & watch everyone else have fun!!!! We will never get younger!!!
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