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Don Newhard

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Huntington Beach, CA

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Men's 55

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Nov. 7, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Combining Divisions Andy - nice to see your new found concern for Major Plus teams! lol Having been there for the past two years I can assure you it's not the end of the world. I would glady accept a 7, then 1-up in exchange for ever having a home run count as an out. Jawood - having 1-up start immediately is overly restrictive. Maybe even 5, then 1-up. Declaring home runs as outs does not solve any actual problem with the game. Having a limit, however, is useful as a balance. BTW - I'm not aware that any of the 11 55 M+ teams in Phoenix ran out of homeruns. My team averaged 3.1 per game. The 325' fences had a lot to do with that. Cheers; Don Newhard Nighthawks 55 M+
Nov. 7, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Question 4 Major Plus teams?? While I've always advocated 3 divisions and agree with Jawood on the challenges of being Major Plus, there are alternatives ways to react to being branded as a Major Plus team. Having played 8 seasons of senior SB at the 50/55 M & M+ level I've seen all sizes, shapes and some pretty amazing skill levels of senior athletes. Unfortunately for me, I still lack the psychic ability that some possses to accurately differentiate major and major plus players or teams . Mind you, we've competed against some exceptionally talented players, but even the superstar HOF dude only gets 4-5 swings per game. This year my team played 13 tournaments as 55M+, 8 of which were SSUSA events, the rest either LVSSA or SCSSA. I'll bet we gave up more "stimulus package, government cheese" runs this year than any other team in any division or any age because of mixed draws. Players who likely decry the evils of socialism in other forums gladly scooped up their "entitlements" because someone declared that we were too strong for the competition. Whatever! Why earlier this year we had to give EIGHT runs AND 11 players to a certain 60 Major Team. Our team was formed 2 years ago from a 50 M team that finished 9th in the '08 SSUSA worlds and a 55 M team that finished an equally imposing 9th in the same event. In 2009 we were immediately branded Major Plus. (Unfair?? Don't Care!!) Because more than anything we love to play ball, we chose to roll with it and leave the moaning and teeth gnashing to others. We won some, we lost some, but we've played 70-80 tourney games each year against some very good 50's, 55's,60's teams in the M&M+ divisions. We likely missed out on a few T-shirts and plastic trinkets, but that's not why we play. Giving runs on a regular basis sometimes got a little old, but it definitely prepared us for the tight games we've played in the big events against our own division. As for the demise of M+, I can only speak from our experience this year in 55 M+. There were 6 teams in Reno, 8 in LVSSA, and 11 in Phoenix. More than worth our while to attend those events. The Cliff Notes version of the above long windage is this: You can just accept the structure of senior softball, show up, play the game you loved as a kid, enjoy the comraderie and friendships that are kindled and edure and maybe even get hot and win a big event OR ... well these pages are filled with the other type of response. If MLB had Major Plus the Phillies and Yankees could have just played in early October . . . but instead we got to witness a team run the table that almost didn't make the playoffs. I prefer the latter scenario. Thanks to each and every team and each player we met this year on the fields. Hope you enjoyed it as much as we did. Hope to see you all next year, in good health. At the end of the day, we are all old farts in this bus, and damn lucky to still be able to lace 'em up. Fuggeddabout the labels and JUST PLAY BALL! JMHO Don Newhard Nighthawks 55 M+
Oct. 29, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: 2010 World Championship - Action Pictures Jack: Did you shoot anything at Thompson Peak Park (Grayhawk) where the 50 & 55 Major Plus played? There was a photographer there, but he didn't offer a website. Don Newhard Nighthawks
Oct. 29, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: How many are going to the So Cal Championships? Nighthawks will be there
Oct. 26, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Southern California - 2010 Ringleaders Oops, can't forget Geno's better half Michelle. Again congrats! And a special tip of the cap to the outstanding field of 11 teams in the 55 Major plus. Every team was a class act and were fully capable of winning it all.
Oct. 26, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Southern California - 2010 Ringleaders The 2010 SSUSA results are in, and at least in the upper end of the 50's, 55's, and 60's divisions, it's a clean sweep for Southern California. I apologize in advance to the So. CA AA and AAA teams for not having more info on them, but there are plenty of great teams from these divisions in our neck of the woods. Congrats to these teams and que the Queen song . . . 50 M+ - Mavericks 50 M - Demolition 55 M+ - Nighthawks 55 M - Double Play Classic 60 M+ - GSF 60 M - Double Edge With the exception of a rainout with the Mavericks, we (Nighthawks) got to play each of these very strong teams all year long in So. CA events. Between SSUSA, SCSSA,and Top Gun, So. CA offered strong, well-attended monthly(sometimes more)tournaments from last December until October. I don't know much, and some would say even less, but I do know regular play against quality competition made a big difference for our team. Marv and Donnie from SCSSA stepped up in a big way to expand our event choices. Point: As you teams from Nor CA, Northwest, AZ, Colorado, Utah and beyond make your schedules for next year, consider joining us for some serious fun in the sun softball in the coming year. Congrats to Geno Capeau, Paul & Anna Smit, Andy Smith, Bob "HOF" Woodroof, and the Mavericks brass for outstanding seasons. See you on the fields. Don Newhard Nighthawks 55M+
Aug. 16, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: LVSSA 55 and 60 Major Plus Teams Donnie: The Nighthawks from Southern California (55 M+) will be there. I believe there will be 2-3 other California teams as well in the 55M+ division. Don Newhard
Aug. 3, 2010 Tate22	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: California Championships Jack: You hit the nail on the head about having too many levels. We are a So CA team that stopped going to the Western Nationals and the Cal Cup because as a M+ team we were(a)not going to have anyone in our division, or (b)were going to have to give runs to men our own age. With three skill levels, that problem would be alleviated. Anybody that says 4 skill levels are necessary is just trying to dilute the competition pool to their benefit. Pushin 60 - you are so right about no big tournaments in SO CA. Maybe SO CAL SSA will help change that. JMHO Don Newhard Nighthawks 55 M+
July 7, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Five run equalizer Dirty: Yes, teams are allowed to turn down the stimulus runs. I remind managers of that at each coin flip. I'd say about 10-15% of the time our opponents pass on the runs, sometimes take the extra fielder. As a 55 M+ team last year we never took the runs in the 25 games we played against 50's teams. As a team giving the runs, it is irritating, but it makes us bear down and prepares us for close games when we play other M+ teams. I don't like the rule, but we play a number of SSUSA events each year because for us actually playing ball trumps all agida about the BS equalizing rules. DAVE - Careful what you ask for, Tucson isn't that far away.
July 7, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Five run equalizer Dirty: Play ball, what a concept! Five year age brackets are sufficient equalizers, with an upper and lower division. Screw the fake run concept. Like Jawood and Smith,Barney advocate, score your runs the old fashion way, EARN THEM! Don Newhard
July 7, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Five run equalizer Joe: We've often commiserated on these issues and usually agree on the key points. Take note of the current post on the Temecula and Hemet tournaments put on by SCSSA. The guys putting on these events have long played in SSUSA and continue to do so, but are putting on local (So. CA) events for all the right reasons that you advocate. Bring your Vegas crew down in either July or August, it will be cooler and you will appreciate the changes. Nice fields and homers are never outs! Cheers; Don Newhard
July 7, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Five run equalizer Gents: Like many entitlement programs in our society, the equalizer program likely won't be pried from the grubby hands that cling to it. Remember, we live in a world where 200-pounders must be allowed to be cheerleaders so their self-esteem is not damaged. As manager of a 55 M+ team that has to regularly give up the government cheese/run stimulus package, I want to point out the hidden multiplier in the equalizer program. If the "disadvantaged" team takes the fake runs, then they should automatically be visitors. Enough of getting freebies AND the hammer. A related point is that the undefeated team in the elim portion of a tourney should automatically earn home team, no coin flip until they have a loss. Performance should be rewarded, not discounted. Jawood, old buddy, here's another vote for your cause of reducing to three levels, like combining Major & Major Plus. Senior/Masters softball did not die when we came up through the ASA 40's and 45's with no divisions. This would eliminate a never-ending debate AND help the environment because less tissues would be used crying over those big old teams that are too good to be allowed to play. A founding father once said that the best government is the one that governs least - that easily applies to this game! Play ball; Don Newhard Nighthawks 55 M+
July 7, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: New Temecula and Hemet Tourneys We participated in the June event and were very pleased with the overall experience. Beautiful facility in Temecula. We will play again in their July event in Menifee, and as often as possible in the future. All of the above comments are accurate; additionally, the event was also very well organized,and ran reasonably on time. Hats off to Donnie Reddig and crew at SCSSA. They listen to feedback and give straight answers on the spot. For starters, home runs are not outs, ever, in SCSSA. Don Newhard Manager Nighthawks 55 M+
May 19, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Woodroof's turn I want to take this opportunity to single out the other Hall of Fame nominee, Bob Woodroof. Congratulations on a well deserved honor. As a player and manager, Bob has played at the highest level since his days in open USSSA. He is a great competitor and his knowledge of the game is second to none. Dugouts are fun when he is around, but you better come to play. He has been a thoughtful and dedicated contributor to this board and the senior game in general. Take a well deserved bow, Woody Don Newhard Nighthawks 55 M+
April 27, 2010 Tate22	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Cathedral City Tournament Phillip: Thank you, our pool was a very competitive tournament that any of the teams could have won. You have a tough team that will only get better during the season. NCI is also a tough team in our division that always provides a battle. Between Manny, Robert of NCI, our Bill Gombos, (don't know the DP 50's pitcher) there were some very tough pitchers on display. Hope to see you back on the field soon, as well. Think about playing in Poway May 22nd, another Top Gun event. Good tune-up two weeks before Reno. Cheers; Don Newhard
April 23, 2010 Tate22	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Post major plus tournament schedules Bob: I thought I recognized that Bob 50 handle. We'll have our hands full as usual with your crew, especially if your adding from Windy City and Geckle. There are three other active 55 M+ teams in CA who will likely be at the two nationals you mentioned. Not sure about Ruth's 55's, but they will likely turn up as well. Good luck this season! Don
April 23, 2010 Tate22	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Post major plus tournament schedules Bob: The Nighthawks are a 55 M+ team out of Southern CA. We will be in Reno in June, LVSSA World August 27-29 in Las Vegas, SSUSA World in Phoenix. We play monthly, mostly in SSUSA qualifiers in our area to keep travel costs down. Palm Springs this weekend. What past teams do your guys come from? Don Newhard Nighthawks 55 M+
April 19, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Ratings Can't say it any better than the last three posts(Corky, Paco, Jawood). Get rid of Major Plus, three divisions is enough.
April 19, 2010 Tate22	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: To screen or not to screen... Southernson: I'm with you, enough already on this issue. The problem (pitcher safety) is fixed as it is ever going to be, SSUSA did the right thing by puting pitchers in charge of their own safety. My team has played 3 SSUSA events this year, the new system works. To SSUSA's credit on this, they asked us and listened to the vast majority. Joe - screens in the middle of the field have never been the solution. BTW: You should see Bill Gombos with a mask, tough as ever to hit, AND better protected. JMHO; Don Newhard Manager - Nighthawks 55 M+
Feb. 22, 2010 Tate22	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Teams Being Bumped Up Ojai board???

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