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April 14, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat Cheating...

I just want to say that at the age of 57, I am glad to be able to step out onto the field and play softball. I also do not want to sound like someone who is telling people to what to do with the game that they also love playing, because they disagree with the equipment changes that have been made to the game. I do understand your concerns. But I didn't know what options were available to you, in order for you to play out on the West coast. It sounds like not many. But honestly, I don't see this game that you are describing. Screens to protect pitchers, never seen those! Guys with huge egos blasting homerun after homerun, don't see that either! The PPR is no longer an issue. The extended mat is in all forms of Senior ball, and that has nothing to do with bats! The extra plate at home, is in all associations that have Senior ball. The orange bag at first, again all associations. These last two do not have anything to do with bats. This has never been a game where pitchers rule, it has always been a hitters game.
April 13, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat Cheating...

E4/E6, when I hear that because we like a certain type of bat because of our egos, when you start saying that using Senior bats is the same as altering bats, those are words that say that I am not able to choose for myself what type of equipment I like to play with, because my ego won't allow me to or you are insinuating that I am a cheater. And that is demeaning. I have said that your points are valid ones, and that you can play in leagues that do not allow the use of these bats, and still enjoy the game of softball. Nothing that I have said is demeaning to you. I can't speak of what your softball organizations are like on the West coast, but here on the East coast, we have our choice. You can play ASA, ISA, ISSA, SSUSA, NSA, USSSA and probably some that I don't remember or even know about. But I do know one thing, very few West Coast teams travel East to try those differing styles of softball. Whenever I have played West Coast teams it's been because the East travels West to Phoenix,Vegas, California or Texas, or at the TOC, which by the way were all or all SSUSA events. Which uses the Senior Bats.
April 13, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat Cheating...

So you are asking an organization that had these rules already in place before you came to play, to change their rules to accomodate you. And you are calling them selfish? Why not start a league of your own, that does not use these rules. You go out and organize the event, you promote this event, but don't go play in an organization that has these rules already in place and demand that they change because you can't find major events that do not use the rules that you are in favor of. And then turn around and demean the individuals that choose to do so. That E4/E6 is selfish.
April 13, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat Cheating...

mad dog,

You just answered your own question. We don't need the hot ball/bat combo, we want it. And by saying that your Senior league uses ASA bat/ball combo proves that you can play Senior softball and have fun. And I agree with you. But you do not have to play in organizations that do allow the hot bat/ball combination. That is your choice to do so. So I ask you why do you want to take something away from those that enjoy the bat/ball combo, and change the game that they enjoy playing, when you can go out and play Senior softball, and use the equipment that you prefer to use and have fun? That to me sounds very selfish. And that is the question that I think that has not been answered!
April 13, 2010
diehard
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: One Day Manassas VA Results

I would agree with wagon, Bass Sports is a very good team. Mid Atlantic is a newly formed team consisting of players from Seven/Omega and Goodmans.

Metro Stars is a very good team, but wagon, why would you have to think if they are a new team when you are on the team? LOL

Run limits per inning helps games from becoming blowouts, and old legs from getting too tired.
April 13, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat Cheating...

If all of Senior Softball decided to ban the use of the Senior bats, I believe, and this is just my opinion, that the altering of bats would be widespread. But what rule changes would take place if these bats were eliminated. Because even in ASA they use the extended mat at home plate, and that is a change in the basic format of the game of softball that we all played years ago, and the mat has nothing to do with the bats. I believe that the mat eliminates the job of an ump to use his own judgement as to whether the pitch was a ball or a strike. And also, it lengthens a pitchers target area. So what rules would or should be eliminated, to get the game back to the games of 70's,80'sand 90's?
April 13, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: can you use the ultra 2 in 50's

That is not the case. In the organizations listed above, once you turn 50, you are allowed to use the Senior bats. Good Luck this year.
April 12, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: can you use the ultra 2 in 50's

ricky33,
As long as you are playing SSUSA,SPA, ISSA you can use All Senior bats. Miken UltraII, Miken Ultra Special Edition, Miken Maxload, Combat Senior bats including the yellow Mike Macenko model. But if you are playing by ASA rules you may not use Senior bats. There are many other types of Senior bats out there for you to use, but some of the more popular ones are listed above.
April 12, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Bat Cheating...

I had a great time in Burlington last year at the ASA Worlds. Bat and Ball combo was very good. But to those who say that the Majority prefers not using the Senior Bats, how do you explain the fact that the participation at the SSUSA World Championships in Phoenix dwarfs the participation in the ASA National Championships? East and West coast! How do you explain the fact that other than the National Championships that ASA has, the vast Majority of tournaments attended by Seniors each year (major tournaments)are either SSUSA or SPA,and ISSA, which ALL allow the use of Senior bats. Guys, I know your reasons for not wanting to use Senior bats, but you sound silly when you start using the word majority, because the facts in tournament play prove you wrong! Now league play where liability becomes an issue, the use of ASA equipment may be in the majority, only because it is mandated by the leagues and organizations that run them. And not the players!
April 2, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Is it me or am i dreaming

Joe, I agree with you. I can only go by what I see. And I see more participation in tournaments that allow the better ball - bat combo. Now,does that mean that those who are concerned about the safety and integrity of the game should not be concerned. Not at all. But if you are so concerned that you feel that your safety is at stake or the basic principles of the game are at stake, do not play in that organization. And that's all that I am saying.
April 2, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Is it me or am i dreaming

All that I was trying to say is that this is America. In America we have a free market economy. So, these folks are able to sell their products, and the other folks are able to start their own softball leagues and organizations. They have the right to set the agenda, make the rules and support the products of whatever or whomever they choose to. You do not have to buy them or play in their organization. That is your choice. If you do choose to play in their organization, then you must abide by their rules.

A few years back, the ISSA played by ASA rules. Participation in these tournaments steadily declined over the years until there were very few teams that wanted to play ISSA. The organizers of the ISSA saw this steady decline and loss of revenue, and knew that they had to do something or else the organization as a whole would eventually cease to exist. So what did they do? They brought back good balls and Senior bats. Now attendance is back up, and the ISSA tournaments are exciting and fun to play in again.
April 1, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Is it me or am i dreaming

Sure it's about money. They provide you with goods and services. In other words, there are equipment manufacturers and suppliers that will sell you goods so you can play softball, and there are softball organizations that provide leagues and tournaments for us to play in, in order for us to get our "Softball Jones" taken care of. Softball Jones, another Softball Jones. Hey, maybe Obama will pass legislation to mandate Government controlled Senior Softball. Then our grandchildren and their kids can pay for it instead of us.
March 31, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Is it me or am i dreaming

And that's what's great about the country we live in. You have choices. You can choose whatever style of softball that you wish to. Whether it's ASA, NSA, SSUSA, SPA, ISA,ISSA,or all of them. There is an organization out there that will best fit your own personal preferences. Choose it, but please don't go to an organization that does not fit your criteria and try to change it. There is no doubt you can play very competitive softball in ASA. Why, you can play very competitive softball in wooden bat leagues. But don't go and play in one organization that uses equipment that you don't care for, and moan and groan about the equipment. No one but yourself is making you play in that organization.

And as far as no warranty on the Senior bats, well these are the best bats out there and they are $100 or more cheaper than most quality ASA or USSSA bats on the market.
March 31, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Is it me or am i dreaming

Gary, I know that you asked Bruce this question, but maybe our ego also says that we feel quite capable of fielding balls hit off of Senior bats as well. And that we don't need to incorporate all of these new rules and regulations and protections for our safety. Maybe, just maybe, we feel that we can still play this game as close as possible, to the game of our youth, without them. Most guys on my team work year round to keep their skills at the top level, and feel confident in their abilities to hit and field. If that is ego then so be it.
March 31, 2010
diehard
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Is it me or am i dreaming

Over the years, on all of the Senior websites, this subject about the Senior bats is probably the hottest topic, and most frequently discussed. Who's right? All of the opinions above are right!

But, there are organizations that one can play Senior softball in, that do not allow the use of Senior bats. And if safety is an issue with you, you can play in those associations, and feel safe.

Our Senior leagues do not allow Senior bats, we go by USSSA rules. But, there are guys that you know who are using altered bats. So, I agree with Bruce, that Senior Bats cut down on a lot of illegal bat altering.

The banning of Senior bats by most associations is not a ban based on personal preferrance, but a ban based on liability to the associations. If players were given their choice to use any bat of their choosing, you would see many if not most, using these Senior bats in those leagues. And that, I might say, may fall into the ego catagory.

All I can say is that I will continue to use them and to play in leagues that allow them. But, if the day ever comes that they are banned, I will not quit playing softball, ever!

p.s. That new gray Miken Ultra.......Sweeeeeeeeeet

March 27, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: a question,or poll if ya wanna call it that

mad dog,

I understand what you are saying. And Dirty has been saying pretty much the same thing for some time. The argument being a saftey concern, and how this equipment alters the game to a point to where the game itself is affected. Both points I understand, however, I like the use of senior bats, and will continue to do so until they outlaw them. But, I could play without them and would not stop playing if they did. It's the game that I love, and I loved the game long before this equipment was around. Have you ever stood on the field, when a team mate come up to you and shows you the latest, and soon to be hottest bat out? Guys start to drool over the bat just like the younger generations do over the latest electronic equipment out. At our age, our time on the field of play is lessening with each swing of the bat, so I say let the seniors enjoy the thrills of these hits that the senior bats provide them, while they can!
March 26, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: a question,or poll if ya wanna call it that

While I do like the use of Senior Bats, I must admit that the ASA Nationals in Burlington last year were great. We had some real competitive games in the 55 AAA division, with one of the scores of our game, against HME, I believe was 37 - 34. So the bat & ball combo used there was very good.
March 22, 2010
diehard
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Way to go, Guys

Hey Joe Thanks for the kind words. Gary, I agree with a lot of what you say. I do not like the PPR, Screens and other than to avoid collisions, I would prefer to have 1 Home plate where sliding would be an option for the baserunner. And I can't deny, although I am not a Homerun hitter, that I love the feel of the ball coming off of the bat with the U-II. As a first baseman, it helps to know when you have a runner on first and a Left Hander at the plate, that he is prone to pull the ball down the line by the lean toward foul territory that the runner is doing, to avoid being hit. So if they allowed the runner to stand on the orange bag, it may disguise where the batter generally hits the ball. I too want the game to be as much like the game we played as young men. There are many seniors that still play softball. And many can still play the game very well. Maybe the higher brackets such as Major and Major Plus, since the players are a little more skilled, should have less of these safety rules and be more like the original game. If you like the rules play down, if you don't, try to hook up with a major or major plus team. Just a thought.
March 19, 2010
diehard
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: SSUSA STAFF-Please change a dumb rule

There is no hypocrisy in that post. Some added safety rules was the phrase I used. How is that hypocritical if the vast majority of Senior players choose not to see things your way? I have played Senior Softball since 2002. Not once in any of my league games, or in any of the 15 major tournaments that I play each year, close to 200 games per year,coast to coast, have I ever seen a player seriously injured from the use of senior bats! That does not say that it does not happen, I'm Sure it does. But I have seen players get serously injured from collisions with other players, or fences that they have run into. So do we outlaw fences? Should we all wear foam rubber helmets to protect us from head on collisions with other players? How do we stop those Gary? So the rules that have been implemented are rules that can be put in place to avoid injury. In 1992 I got seriously injured by a ball hit off of a bat, and I needed reconstructive surgery to repair my mouth and facial area. That was long before composite bats were even on the market. The bat used was a Steele's bat. Put your facts on the table, show out of all of the Seniors playing the game today who play in games that allow the use of Senior bats, what the player to injury ratio is. If you can prove that more players are injured each year from the use of Senior bats,than by any other injury that may occur in a Senior Softball game, then it is something that all in Senior Softball should be concerned with. If you can't, and I don't think you can, then I believe it's time to move on to another subject. I am sorry for getting off of the original topic of this post, but we play by Senior Softball rules, which are different than the rules of the game we played growing up. If you don't like the rules that Senior Softball uses, don't play!
March 19, 2010
diehard
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: SSUSA STAFF-Please change a dumb rule

It is my opinion that Senior Softball and the rules that govern Senior Softball, should not now nor ever should have been compared to the rules of the game of softball that we all grew up playing. I believe Senior Softball, and the rules that govern it was brought about by seniors, who wanted to continue to play a brand of softball, as close to the game that we grew up playing, but with some added safety rules. So, while Senior Softball allows Men and Women over the age of 50 to still enjoy a game that they grew up playing, and do not wish to stop doing, it is NOT the same game, and does not have the same rules!
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