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Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Oz that's the beauty of USSSA!! Your last sentence sums it up perfectly. If it's close swing thy bat!!
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Jimmy there's no hand signal in utrip until the pitch crosses the plate. That's what helps distinguish utrip from the others. As I stated earlier in a 2man the base umpire can put his arm out if he sees the pitcher outside the pitching box delivering a pitch. But not many do that.
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Fellas BJ is exactly correct. For further info refer to section 6 of the SSUSA rule book. For the record it doesn't matter if the pitcher starts out with one foot in the box and shifts outside the box or was not in the box before pitching. Both are illegal!!
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Jimmy your correct. What he should have called was "unfairly delivered" that's USSSA terminology. "Illegal" is used in ASA (as I just learned from sparky) & SSUSA. They both mean the same thing. You ask a good question. USSSA umps do use signals but only after the ball crosses the plate. That's the beauty of utrip, you never know what the ump will call!! Kind of scary though. As a batter you hope the ump knows the rules. Sadly, far too many don't.
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Jimmy in your scenario it's a ball not because the pitch was deep or outside. The pitch is a ball because it was unfairly delivered!! It could have landed right behind the plate and it would still be a ball. I presume you had a one man for your playoff game? If so there is no signal the ump would use. If it's a two man the base umpire would put his arm out if he sees the pitcher is outside the pitching box delivering the pitch.
Oct. 30, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Tim, I with B.J. on this one. I don't believe it's a dead ball. The only rule on the pitching box in the SSUSA umpire rule book is in Section 6, rule 6.4 part B, it states: "the pitcher must take a position with at least one foot in contact with the pitchers box" In 6.11(1) it states "any infraction of 6.3 to 6.11 is an illegal pitch. A ball shall be called on the batter. Runners may not advance. EXCEPTION: if a batter swings at any illegal pitch it is nullified and the result of the play stands.
In Doc11's scenario that's an illegal pitch in SSUSA. Umpire puts out his left arm (thank you for the correction sparky.1!!) and yells out "illegal" while the pitch is in the air. In USSSA umpires do not call "illegal" while the pitch is in the air. They wait until the catcher catches it and then state "unfairly delivered". If the batter swings at it, it's game on.
I'm not familiar with ASA rule on this.

Oct. 29, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

In this case the umpire is to hold his right arm out to the side and yell out "illegal" while the pitch is in the air. If the batter chooses to swing at it it's game on.
Oct. 24, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 1-1 count? Playing Devil's advocate

Get up one time OZ!! I'm no one special, just a remarkably sub-average senior softball player. Ahhhhhhhh!!
Oct. 22, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 1-1 count? Playing Devil's advocate

OZ you bad boy you!! lol Welcome to the board.
Oct. 21, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference

I'd like to add if the runner was using "descriptive" language, meaning f-bombs, that were loud and clear I'd throw him out. No place in the game for someone screaming language like that out.
Oct. 21, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Interference

The umpire was correct except for one thing. Based on your scenario it should be first and second with two outs instead of first and third. The runner that was on second goes back to second--he does not advance to third. This is usssa rule, others may vary
Oct. 14, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: tag up

Garocket, with the exception of ssusa staff and perhaps a few other posters you could be right.
Oct. 14, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Why Not Reward Performance?

?, 3 reasons why the Royals and Giants are still playing. 1)pitching 2)defense
3)clutch hitting. It wouldn't surprise me to see a KC-SF world series.
Oct. 14, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Fields and Teams - Major Tournaments

Cal50, congrats on your team victory!
Oct. 13, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Why Not Reward Performance?

Tate22, USSSA has a similar rule in their NIT's and conference tournaments. By rule, whoever wins the winners bracket is automatically home team for the first game of the championship. If it goes to the 'if' game it's a coin flip. Many like to call that the "Resmondo rule" because when the powerhouse Resmondo teams won the flip they'd always take visitors and score a bunch of runs--many times putting the game out of reach before the other team even batted.
Oct. 13, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: tag up

Garocket that is correct but you spoiled my fun!! :)
Oct. 12, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: WHO ARE CURRENTLY THE MOST POWERFUL HITTERS IN SENIOR SOFTBALL

To answer the original question I would say Bob Woldyke & Vern Hensley are two of the most powerful hitters that I've seen in senior softball today. No doubt there are many others but I admit to being biased since Wally is a former teammate and Vern is a current teammate. After playing against Jose I would definitely say he ranks up there. One he hit against us 2 weeks ago I think is still going!! You could take the middle of their order of any 50 major plus and 55 major plus team and find some pretty powerful hitters. jmho
Oct. 12, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: tag up

Both scenarios are timing plays. If the runner at third crosses the scoring line before the out is recorded then run scores. If he doesn't then no run. In hurdlers scenario suppose the umpire calls the runner out for leaving early at second. That would make it 3 outs. Can they also opt to appeal the runner at third left early?
Oct. 7, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Play at the plate

Curty if I read you correctly the third baseman had the ball, ran at the runner(presumably toward home) and in doing so the runner crossed the commit line. Then the runner reversed direction and in doing so ran into the player who had the ball. Did the third baseman have the ball? Did the runner who had crossed the commit line reverse direction and go back across the commit line?
Oct. 7, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Play at the plate

Steve I'll definitely take your word for it. I suspect many players in that scenario would go for a tag strictly by instinct. It sounds like you did the proper thing and from other posters have stated Webbie turned away to avoid his teammate. Odd play for sure!!
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