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Nov. 15, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Are walks hits in Senior Softball?

Hurler, Stewie is doing very well. He is pretty much back to his normal self--smashing it all over the field and going deep if he chooses to.
Nov. 14, 2014
stick8
Topic: Bats
Discussion: When Is It Bat Altering?

I've never heard of anyone adding weight to their batting gloves. How in earth would one do that?
Nov. 14, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Are walks hits in Senior Softball?

Brock and neck good points!! Another poster put it properly. There's no recorded out if you walk
Nov. 12, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Are walks hits in Senior Softball?

I used to think walks shouldn't be hits until I played on this one team about 10 years ago. This team had 17 players and our coach had a rule, if you go 0-fer you sit the next game. In this one game I batted three times and walked three times. Then i sat the next game. Whewn i asked why he stated "you didn't get a hit". To which I stated "I didn't get a pitch to hit and I was on base three times. Doesn't that count for something". Ever since then I've felt a walk should be counted as a hit because you earned your way on base. You had a good enough eye and are patient enough not to swing at balls out of the strike zone. jmho
Nov. 5, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Better bats or better marketing?

Sparky I understand about Stroh's beer, not the best of tastes. That was one of our mandates, we had to drink Strohs. Luckily for me the years I played Stroh's Signature came out and that was decent--and free!!
I always thought those four letter words were only in English and understood by anyone? lol To your question that early April tournament at the city was the Free Press tournament. It was always meant to play on one weekend but as you know Michigan weather in early April is so unpredictable that many times that tournament was spread over several weekends.
Nov. 4, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Better bats or better marketing?

Sparky, yes I played for that stroh's team. It was in the mid 80's and my first introduction to big time ball. Never forget my first game, against Snyders. I'm leading off, nervous as hell!! The first pitch of the game the ump calls it flat and the old man went on a 20 minute tirade like I've never heard before. Anyone else that did that would have been tossed but not the old man. "Welcome to big time softball" is what I was told by our coach. Anyway we played the major metro at the city on Wednesdays and Liberty Park super B on Thursdays. The old Lutomski league had dried up so some of our guys hooked up as a pick up team at Oak Park on Tuesdays. Those were fun times !! A few still play senior ball but many have since stopped playing. If you played for Caesars you were amongst the best!!
Nov. 3, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Better bats or better marketing?

Sparky I played with Oz on Men in Black and The Junk Team. I also played with TESC (Tom Everett Softball Club), Nagy's, White Lightning, Money and when they combined it was Money Lightning. Back then leagues were the big thing. I also played with Stroh's and Trailblazers that played in the Wednesday night major metro league before it ended.
Yourself?
Nov. 3, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Legal/Illegal Use of Courtesy Runner?

Yes there is a difference between a touch and an assist. I had a play last year where a runner was being waved home by the third base coach and the runner wiped out pushing off the base. His momentum carried him into and caused him to low bridge the coach. The runner then scampered back to third safely. Contrary to the other team arguing that is not an out. Now if the coach picked the runner up and pushed him toward home then I have an out.
Nov. 2, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Better bats or better marketing?

FWIW, both Laurel & Hardy and the Stooges were a riot. I could watch both and laugh my rear end off!! Getting back to the subject Oz does make a valid point. Durability seems to be the prevalent issue on senior bats today. While players have their favorite bats it seems as if the most common denominator is bats not lasting. And with bats having no warranty it can get expensive to keep purchasing new bats. It goes without saying senior bats are not made for durability. Since they are all composed of thinner walls they are built for performance!! The new Dudley bats have been mentioned as having more durability. Time will certainly tell on that. The latest Miken has a one year warranty--unheard for senior bats!! Miken must be confident their bats will last to offer a warranty. Time will tell on that as well.
Nov. 1, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Better bats or better marketing?

OZ you are rapidly establishing yourself as the most cerebral posters on here!! Excellent topic for discussion.
Nov. 1, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Curty the way you describe that play the umpire was correct. It happened to me earlier this year when someone tossed me a foul ball that had been retrieved. My attention was diverted when the pitcher released a pitch. The batter took the pitch and since I didn't see it I couldn't call it a ball or a strike so it's "no pitch".
Nov. 1, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Legal/Illegal Use of Courtesy Runner?

SCUBA based on your description I have an illegal courtesy runner, thus an out. Courtesy runners cannot be inserted until the play is over and it must be announced to the umpire. Conceivably this "courtesy" runner could take it upon himself to advance to second if the ball is still rolling around foul territory.
If the throw from the outfield happens to go out of play other legal runners are awarded two bases from the time of the throw (in usssa it's the time of the pitch.)--the base your going to plus the next one. The illegal courtesy runner is still out and cannot be replaced.
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Oz that's the beauty of USSSA!! Your last sentence sums it up perfectly. If it's close swing thy bat!!
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Jimmy there's no hand signal in utrip until the pitch crosses the plate. That's what helps distinguish utrip from the others. As I stated earlier in a 2man the base umpire can put his arm out if he sees the pitcher outside the pitching box delivering a pitch. But not many do that.
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Fellas BJ is exactly correct. For further info refer to section 6 of the SSUSA rule book. For the record it doesn't matter if the pitcher starts out with one foot in the box and shifts outside the box or was not in the box before pitching. Both are illegal!!
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Jimmy your correct. What he should have called was "unfairly delivered" that's USSSA terminology. "Illegal" is used in ASA (as I just learned from sparky) & SSUSA. They both mean the same thing. You ask a good question. USSSA umps do use signals but only after the ball crosses the plate. That's the beauty of utrip, you never know what the ump will call!! Kind of scary though. As a batter you hope the ump knows the rules. Sadly, far too many don't.
Oct. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Jimmy in your scenario it's a ball not because the pitch was deep or outside. The pitch is a ball because it was unfairly delivered!! It could have landed right behind the plate and it would still be a ball. I presume you had a one man for your playoff game? If so there is no signal the ump would use. If it's a two man the base umpire would put his arm out if he sees the pitcher is outside the pitching box delivering the pitch.
Oct. 30, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

Tim, I with B.J. on this one. I don't believe it's a dead ball. The only rule on the pitching box in the SSUSA umpire rule book is in Section 6, rule 6.4 part B, it states: "the pitcher must take a position with at least one foot in contact with the pitchers box" In 6.11(1) it states "any infraction of 6.3 to 6.11 is an illegal pitch. A ball shall be called on the batter. Runners may not advance. EXCEPTION: if a batter swings at any illegal pitch it is nullified and the result of the play stands.
In Doc11's scenario that's an illegal pitch in SSUSA. Umpire puts out his left arm (thank you for the correction sparky.1!!) and yells out "illegal" while the pitch is in the air. In USSSA umpires do not call "illegal" while the pitch is in the air. They wait until the catcher catches it and then state "unfairly delivered". If the batter swings at it, it's game on.
I'm not familiar with ASA rule on this.

Oct. 29, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitching

In this case the umpire is to hold his right arm out to the side and yell out "illegal" while the pitch is in the air. If the batter chooses to swing at it it's game on.
Oct. 24, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 1-1 count? Playing Devil's advocate

Get up one time OZ!! I'm no one special, just a remarkably sub-average senior softball player. Ahhhhhhhh!!
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