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Oct. 7, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Play at the plate

The rule states a runner can't be tagged out once he/she passes the commit line. If that happens the runner is automatically safe and the play is still live. Question is if said rule also applies to an attempted tag.
Oct. 7, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 1 and 1 pitch count

I believe Omar correctly states most hitters don't wait out a full count when batting. Give 'em a senior bat and a lively ball, they want to hit!! By that alone games wouldn't necessarily go faster. In addition good teams will still get their share of hits & still score their share of runs. Defensive teams will still make errors in the field. And don't forget between innings teams will more often than not slowly drag in from the field and slowly drag out to the field--especially on a hot day. I don't believe playing 3-2 would make much if any difference in speeding up the senior game. USSSA switched from 4-3 to 3-2 in the early 1990's with the intent to speed up the game. They found that it did no such thing.
Oct. 7, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Play at the plate

Webbie not seeing the play it's hard to discern what happened. What's interesting about this play you described is you were in the "no tag zone" so to speak. I don't know the SSUSA rule on this (or if there is one) but if your trying to score in the "no tag zone" and the defensive player attempts to tag you which alters your route to the scoring line one might think it's defensive obstruction since he's not allowed to tag you. I'm not sure however.
Sept. 30, 2014
stick8
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: 50major plus

Congrats to Timmy, Keith, Cupp, Cushie, Wally, Dougie, Paul, Marv, Jimmy O and the rest of DLB. I admit I was envious watching you guys in the final game but it's always a pleasure to watch the game played the right way and you guys exemplified that. Congrats also to TSC for making a great run.
Sept. 12, 2014
stick8
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Sunset Park-Vegas

Thank God. That was a mess manuevering around that.
Sept. 12, 2014
stick8
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Sunset Park-Vegas

DoubleL 10, is the construction in the middle of the complex finished from last year?
Sept. 9, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Baserunner Retreating

In young mans ball, USSSA specifically, it's legal. I might be mistaken on this but in SSUSA I believe it's an out.
Sept. 9, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: You Make The Call

Staff that's the tournament rule but this hypothetical situation actually happened about 25 years ago--in a house league game I was watching--our team had the next game. The umpire administered it incorrectly but he made the right call. He stated once the second batter was walked and reached first that's considered a pitch and you lose the appeal on the runner at second. The team in the field went crazy and protested the game--nearly started a riot. The UIC came out and interestingly enough stated it was a correctable situation and told the first batter to get back in the box and go to first. Then he told the second batter to do the same thing. Then he told the umpire "let that be a lesson to you."
Sept. 9, 2014
stick8
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: You Make The Call

Staff and Garocket are correct. Try this one:
Bottom of the open inning, runner on third, two outs. Score is tied. Pitcher announces to the ump they are going to walk the next two batters. First batter runs across the middle of the field to second (doesn't touch first). Then the next batter goes to first. The following batter gets in the box and before the first pitch to him the pitcher appeals the runner on second missed first base.
Is that runner out?
Sept. 2, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call - Infield Fly

Bruce, if I found out one of the umpires in my crew did that they wouldn't be umpiring for me any more.

Sept. 2, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call - Crash at Second Base

Fred I have to admit I've never seen that call made either. Even if players did know the rule I tend to think just by instinct players approaching second base where would not veer off if there was a close play.
Sept. 1, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call - Infield Fly

Bruce that is a first for me.
Aug. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call - Infield Fly

Bruce did that really happen? Egads!!
Aug. 31, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call - Crash at Second Base

I'm not certain the situations you describe were in senior ball or young mans ball. In SSUSA runners must avoid crashing into a defensive player attempting to make a play. In your first scenario I presume the runner did not slide? If that's the case then by SSUSA rule the batter-runner would be out. As an interesting aside if the runner missed the base to avoid a collision he is not called out.
In your second scenario the umpire may call a double play on that if in his judgement the collision negated a double pklay.


Aug. 30, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Thrown Ball

Titanhd I cited what the rule is in a USSSA game. Your correct, upon reading the SSUSA rule, it is different. In both cases it's referred to as a blocked ball. In SSUSA it's a dead ball and runners go back to the last base touched at the time of the blocked ball. But if the blocked ball prevented the defense from making an out the runner being played on is called out. In USSSA if a member of the offensive team or their equipment cause a blocked ball it's considered interference. Play stops, the ball is dead and the most advanced runner is called out.
Aug. 29, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Thrown Ball

BJ it's not a bailout call at all. Its designed to protect the defense. There's no difference whether a thrown ball by the defense hits the on deck batter if he's standing watching the play or if he's picking up a bat. In either case he's in the field of play--live ball territory. Why would you call interference on one but not the other?
Aug. 29, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call - Infield Fly

That umpire blew it!! Once the call is made that's it, it stands no matter if it's blatantly wrong or not.
Aug. 29, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Thrown Ball

Had a similar play umpiring a USSSA C nit a couple years ago. Runners on first and second with two outs. Batter gets a base hit to right field. Runner on second attempts to score. Throw from right field is up the third base line and hits the on-deck batter. Dead ball interference. The LEAD RUNNER ON BASE is declared out, end of inning. The ruling should be the same in your situation.
Aug. 23, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call

Garocket I understand the principle your getting at but having courtesy runners in senior ball it wouldn't matter all that much would it?
Aug. 22, 2014
stick8
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: You Make the Call

BJ your answer is correct!!
Here's the SSUSA rule on intentional drop:

"If a fielder intentionally drops, or lets drop, a fair fly ball, including a line drive, that can be caught by an infielder with ordinary effort with first base only, or first base and any other base(s), with less than two outs, only one recorded out may be made on the play. This is an umpire's judgment call."

Being an umpire it's sometimes tough to make a judgement call
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