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Sept. 21, 2012
Ho
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ISA World/Northeast Championship Results

Try this web page for the ISA order of finish (no scores)..they list the order of finish in each group (no record or scores)..the point total on the right shows you who finished in what order.

http://isasoftball.com/national-pasttourneys.html?mon=07

As for the SSUSA Northeast Championship at Syracuse..they only had 29 teams and they list the finish of 26 teams..with the process of elimination you can probably determone where the other three finished.

Again no scores for either but you can't have everything.

Ho


Sept. 21, 2012
Ho
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: ISA World/Northeast Championship Results

They have been posted (the final standings, no scores)on the tournament web page, down at the bottom of the pages.

Ho
Sept. 8, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: "PRO" Softball late 1970's & early 1980's

The AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL SLOW PITCH LEAGUE (APSPL) began with 12 teams in 1977 and played through 1980. In 1981-1982 the UNITED PROFESSIONAL SOFTBALL LEAGUE (UPSL) was in existance.

Looks like a beer and pizza league with team names being DETROIT (LITTLE) CEASARS; MILWUAKKE SCHLITZ, CINCINNATTI SUDS; KY BOURBONS, etc.

You can go to the web page:
http://www.angelfire.com/sd/slopitch/pro.html
for more info on the teams and some players.

Ho
Sept. 8, 2012
Ho
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Dalton results

Friday's results (scores)are up also...also on the News site the results of all tournaments with the names of the all teams entered are mentioned.

Ho
Sept. 3, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: dalton ga

The SPA schedules for the 50's, 60's and 70's are up tonight (Monday)

Ho
Sept. 2, 2012
Ho
Topic: Bats
Discussion: What makes it a "Senior" bat???

Shelbyville (36 teams) and THEE Buckeye Classic (77) were full..DAYTON (32), SYLVANIA(36)and COLUMBUS (40) could have taken a few more. As I mentioned, all five were AA and AAA events.

Ho
Sept. 2, 2012
Ho
Topic: Bats
Discussion: What makes it a "Senior" bat???

Gary:

I can give you five tournaments who turned down teams, they were DAYTON FIRST FLIGHT; THEE BUCKEYE CLASSIC; HEART OF OHIO; SYLVANIA and HOOSIER CLASSIC.

Teams were turned down for various resaons but mainly ratings.

Ho
Aug. 27, 2012
Ho
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Cape May

tHE 75'S HAVE BEEN PLAYING AT Barberton,Ohio (12 TEAMS); Columbus, Ohio (7 teams); Shelbyville,Indiana (6) and DAYTON, OHIO (5). None of the other 41 qualifiers and non-Worlds in the Mid-West and Mid-East drew more than Three.

Rememberv that in 2013.

Ho
Aug. 22, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: non tournament players

I can understand your problem..been there, done that.

I am sure there are others on this board who also have gone through the change from baseball and fast pitch to slow pitch and also have swung those table leg 38-0z...If not they do not know what they missed.

Ho
Aug. 22, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: non tournament players

He probably had been doing it for awhile. I saw a guy who played minor A ball (penn/N.Y. League)try to make the switch when playing his first slow pitch game. He struck out three times ...throw his bat into the woods and I never saw hime again.

It isn't easy to make the adjustment right away...your hands are always ahead of your hips. Does make you a good opposite field hitters as you tend to try and hold back your swing.

Ho
Aug. 22, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: non tournament players

Baseball and fast pitch about the same...do you remember the first time you swung at a ball in slowpitch after playing baseball? I thought I was going to break my back when I made the switch from fast pitch.

I was using one of those old HOWARD FURNITURE silver lead pipe 38 oz and I couldn't stop my swing.

I'm sure you probably had the same experience.

Ho
Aug. 22, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: non tournament players

Wouldn't have that many teams in OHIO...we have to push to draw 77 for THEE Buckeye Classic each year.

The neat thing about the SSUSA tournament in VEGAS drawing 400 + teams 9/28-10/7 is the HUNTSMAN GAMES in ST. GEORGE will draw 350+ in the following 10/8-10/20 span.

That is over 800 senior softball players taking part in two tournments played back-to-back.

Speaks pretty highly of both organizations SSUSA and HUNTSMAN to put together world tournaments like this.

I would be nearly 200 of the teams playing in VEGAS will also be makingb the trip to ST.GEORGE the following week to play.

Ho

Question for SWING for THE FENCES, how long did you play fast pitch softball before you switched to slow pitch. Sounds like you were a pretty active player in your younger days. I made the switch at "45", game got too fast for me.
Aug. 20, 2012
Ho
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking for a Team and information

Ray:

I was checking senior leagues in Georgia and couldn't find any within 100 miles. What I am doing is giving you the web page of the ATLANTA METRO LEAGUE which not only has a good senior league but a very good travel team.

Might be too far for you to travel but the name I give you may be able to help you find a closer league

web site - atlantaseniorsoftball.com

contact - Howard Wilcox 678-469-1083

Hope this helps. Good luck and a special thank you for serving.

Ho
Aug. 18, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tournament Prizes

Contrary to popular belief, the associations do not rate the same way.

There are teams rated AAA in SPA which are major in SSUSA; there are teams rated major in SPA which are AAA in SSUSA and ISSA rates anyway they want.

I do think in most cases SSUSA and SPA work together based on results of the WORLD championships..the only difference would be winners in WORLD tournaments with three-teams or less in a division.

Since we have a SPA tournament we use SPA ratings to determine what rating to use for each team. We do bend a little on some new teams (which should be AAA by SPA and SSUSA) if thier last few tournaments they have really been destroyed. I will call the SPA office and in a conference call with RIDGE and three other directors try to get some ratings changed.

I do know of a couple of instances where teams where also rated down in other associations in order to get them to come to a tournamemt and fill a bracket and the changes didn't have that much of an impact on the tournament results.

You could probably find teams in each association (SSUSA and SPA) which are doifferent from each other but each has a system they stand by to rate teams. Since both systems are somewhat different, occasionally ratings may be different.

Hope that answers your question.

Ho
Aug. 18, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tournament Prizes

STEVE..There is one tournament that sends out newsletters twice a month listing the names of all teams coming to their tournament and does not enforce a pull-out deadline.

Doing this forces us to make certain we have at least six teams, usually eight in each bracket (age and classification 60 AA, 60 AAA, 65 AA, 65 AAA etc).

Most SSUSA and SPA TD's will tell you is coming if your manager calls them prior to the deadline and asks for that information. At least the better ones do.

Ho

Aug. 18, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tournament Prizes

The reason we kept the majors out was to increase the AA and AAA teams. When we allowed Majors, the attensdance was 24 teams now without majors we are up to 77. Same for Columbus and Dayton.

When I talk about small tournaments I refer to the low 20's that will take anybody and throw them all in a grab bag.

I agree it is a problem. I would like to see the organizations have tournaments at least once a month for majors and major plus only that are qualifiers...just so they can play other major teams. Having to go to play WORLDS to find opponents is too expensive for these teams.

Check out the SSUSA major teams at WORLDS and SPA majors at DALTON. If you give the majors qualifier tournaments where they can have five-or-six teams they will come.

I have already talked with RIDGE about putting a couple of MAJOR/MAJOR PLUS tournaments in the midwest, wouldn't be a bad idea for TERRY to do the same in the mideast. Both SPA and SSUSA should scrap those 14 and 16 team local/regional qualifier tournaments and try and put a few major/major plus tournaments together.

The info I put out earlier was for what I thought was a 65AAA team question. But here are some tournaments which did do well in the mid-west and east coast and upper south in having tournaments for majors/major plus.

50 major/major plus
SPA GLEN BURNIE, MAY 7 TEAMS
SSUSA LOUDEN COUNTY, MAY 7 TEAMS
ISSA ROANOKE VALLEY, JUNE 7 TEAMS
ISSA MYRTLE BEACH, MARCH 7 TEAMS
SSUSA POLK COUNTY MARCH 6 TEAMS

55 MAJOR/MAJOR PLUS
ISSA ROANOKE VALLEY, JUNE 9 TEAMS
SSUSA RALEIGH AUGUST 6 TEAMS
SSUSA LANSING AUGUST 5 TEAMS
SPA GLEN BURNIE MAY 4 TEAMS
SSUSA LOUDEN COUNTY MAY 4 TEAMS
SSUSA BRICKYARD MAY 4 TEAMS ##THIS IS AND SSUSA CRABTOWN ARE GOOD TOURNAMENT IN ALL AGES..BOTH HAVE VERY GOOD TD'S

60 MAJORS/MAJOR PLUS
SSUSA LOUDEN COUNTY MAY 4 TEAMS
SSUSA RALEIGH AUGUST 4 TEAMS
SSUSA CRABTOWN JULY 4 TEAMS
SSUSA POLK COUNTY MARCH 4 TEAMS
ISSA MYRTLE BEACH MARCH 4 TEAMS

65 MAJORS/MAJOR PLUS
SPA MARIETTA JUNE 4 TEAMS
SSUSA POLK COUNTY MARCH 3 TEAMS
SPA ISENHOWER JULY 3 TEAMS
SPA MONTGOMERY MARCH 3 TEAMS

70'S/75'S

USUALLY ONLY TWO TEAMS IN ANY ONE TOURNAMENT.

Finally TITANHD, two years ago the 75's were having the same problem..two or three teams at a tournament. Now they are all working together. I sent my mailing list for "25" 75's to a few 75's that wanted to organize the 75's so they could go to the same tourmaments.

It is working for them THEE Buckeye Classic (12 teams); Columbus (7 teams) and SHELBYVILLE (6) had great attendance this year. For next year we are starting to work on a MAY, JUNE, JULY and AUGUST three-day SIX-to-EIGHT games citcuit for the 75's.

I appreciate your problem but I think it is up to TERRY and RIDGE to set up at least two (one for each organization) monthly to give the majors and major plus teams a place to play.

Both organizations created the problems with their major/major plus divisions so it is up to them to arrange tournaments not for AA/AAA tournaments to find a place for them to play.

Ho
Aug. 18, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Tournament Prizes

Tine to offer my two cents, or mayybe in this case three cents.

First on the SHELBYVILLE TOURNAMENT, their maximum amount of teams is 35 and that is all they can take. Was not a problem of too many divisions and not enough teams.

I still say, "The problem is in the tournament directors, who just figure, "Throw open the dorrs and they will come". And unfortunately that is what a lot of teams do.

They go to small tournaments with only 30 teams and then blame the tournament. DON"T GO to the small tournaments, if you stop going then maybe the TD will wake up and try and get more teams in.

As to, "you need cash prizes to get more teams to attend", check this out and these are just MID-WEST and some MID-SOUTH tournaments that seem to have done pretty well this year without cash prizes.

Just used the 65's aas an example because I think STEVE has a 65 team.

MARCH ISSA MYRTLE BEACH $400 50 TEAMS 5 65 AAA, 2 AA
MAY SSUSS LODEN COUNTY $525 - 62 TEAMS,
6 65 AAA, 1 aa
MAY SPA GLEN BURNIE $400 - 44 TEAMS, 8 65 AAA
JUNE SPA BUCKEYE CLASSIC $400 - 77 TEAMS 9 65 AAA, 6 AA
JUNE ISSA ROANOKE $525, 65 TEAMS 6 65 AAA, 1 AA
JUNE SPA MARIETTA $375 42 TEAMS 5 65 AAA, 5 AA
JULY SSUSA SHAWNEE $525 56 TEAMS 7 65 AAA, 2 AA
JULY SPA COLUMBUS $475 40 TEAMS, 4 65 AAA,4 65 AA
AUGUST SSUSA ELGIN $325 34 TEAMS, 5 65 AAA, 1 AA

So to repeat, there are a lot of good tournaments in the midwest/midsouth from SSUSA, ISSA and SPA who are drawing the teams at reasonable entry fees. The ones listed cover a good tournament schedule from MAY-AUGUST

The problem is not with the tournaments, it is the teams. Do your homework before going to a tournament and go to the ones where the other teams are going.

You can go to each organizations web page and see what teams attended their tournaments this year (use it as a plan for next year)..if a tournament doesn't list how many teams they drew, well there must be a reason they don't want anyone to know.

Do your homework

Ho


Ho

July 26, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Great Lakes Regional

The first thing I would do is verify your information with the tournament director.

As it stands now (I just called him and asked how they could say five game minimum and only give four games?): There are FOUR AAA 60's who will be playing THREE POOL and a double-elimination and SIX AA who will be playing three pool and a double-elimination.

There are 34 teams in the tournament and all will have five games minimum.

I would call SYLVANIA and verify you have the right schedule, because it looks like some changes may have been made since the one you first received.

Ho
July 18, 2012
Ho
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Hamstring Pull

LEFTYODOUL is right on with the massages. Gets you back to speed quicker than all the other remedies. It will, however, bring tears to your eyes the first two sessions as he/she digs down deep into the muscle.

You can check with a local chiropractor or a therapist to find the right one for you.

Good Luck

Ho
July 18, 2012
Ho
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: LANSING TOURNEY

Did they ever post the winners and the other teams that attended?

Ho
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