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Dec. 16, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: No change in the balls for SSUSA for 2010 Dirty you are correct about 36 years ago If we went back to the game the way it was 36 years ago we would only need two Classes ASA had Major and A We could have AAA and Major 2 homeruns in AAA 6 Homeruns in Major But we would have to hit with Bombats and use RF 80 cork center balls I do not think either divisions would run out of Homeruns very often No run limits or time limits most games would be over in 50-60 minutes cause the games would be 8-6 and 12-8 very often Sometimes you might even get to see a 2-1 game. And guess what we had as much fun playing those as the 24-23 games that take an hour and 45 minutes to play I am also a realist knowing this will never happen but those really were the good old days, when nobody cried about somebody being out of class You brought 10 I brought 10 and we played the game, with the better team that day winning
Dec. 16, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: BEST PITCH TO THROW Guys here us some studies that I found on the internet these are measured with legal adult bats not U2 or shaved bats Get a stop watch out and try to click it on blink you eyes and stop it well ove .50 of a second The pitchers have no chance when they catch a line drive its just luck. I also read where these test were done with 44 cor 350 comp ball and bat speed of 84 miles per hour so If a guy with great bat speed might be as high as 95 can you imagine what the ball exit speed is Article I found OBJECTIVES: To investigate safety risks in slowpitch softball by conducting laboratory and experimental studies on the performance of high tech softball bats with polyurethane softballs. To compare the results with the recommended safety standards. METHODS: ASTM standard compression testing of seven softball models was conducted. Using these seven softball models, bat/ball impact testing was performed using seven adult male softball players and six high tech softball bat models to determine mean batted ball speeds. Over 500 bat/ball impact measurements were recorded and analysed. Available pitcher reaction time was calculated from the mean batted ball speed measurements. RESULTS: According to the United States Specialty Sports Association and the Amateur Softball Association, the maximum initial batted ball speed should be 137.2 km/h, which corresponds to a minimum pitcher reaction time of 0.420 second. These experiments produced mean batted ball speeds of 134.0-159.7 km/h, which correspond to available pitcher reaction times of 0.409-0.361 second. CONCLUSION: The use of high tech softball bats with polyurethane softballs can result in batted ball speeds that exceed the recommended safety limits, which correspond to decreased available pitcher reaction times.
Dec. 9, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Its Unanimous - The Best Senior Softball Players Are in California and Florida I think most players are looking at this the wrong way. Florida abd California both have many good players some even great. However because of the weather lots of other states do not have the nice weather or nowhere near the number of Senior players. Some states like Georgia and Alabama only have a few selected teams of Seniors players. Florida has hundrerds of seniors teams Georgia in the meantime has very few and even fewer that play on a National level. If 2-3 Florida teams come into Georgia or Alabama and pick up 8-10 of the very best players that leaves these bordering states extremly low on top notch players. Therefore they will not even try to build teams to play in tournaments local or National level tournaments. This new rule will allow some of the smaller populated states to keep there upper players and might decide to give the tournament scene a try. I think this is a great rule but could also look at a few other states like Arizona and Texas large populations with lots of Senior players
Nov. 21, 2009 Garocket	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: No water in the dugouts for 65's!!!!!! (no concessions to purchase from either) When I play I alway bring my own insulated bottle of water. I have a hanger that just clips on the fence. I hate the water that most places furnish, always has tha hose pipe taste. If it is not furnished the team used to keep a cooler in the dugout with bottled water in it. a case at Sams is only $4.59 and gives most everyone two bottles during the game and was always cold Th coolers with the wheels on them was always easy to manage
Nov. 16, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: On balls and bats I would agree with Einstein to a point He says good ball and I agree with that The Stote 44/375 is a good ball but I would say nothing any hotter. Maybe in extreme hot weather go to the x rock. But only if the forecast is 95 and above. When he speaks of socks I would think he is talking about the worth ball or a cork center ball those or socks not the ones mentioned above. However the bats do need to be toned down a little. The Titanium was outlawed in the mid nineties and I can say because I hit with them , they were not even close to a broken in U2 The U2 is a good bit hotter If they could come out with a bat that was about like a U2 when it is new and not get any hotter than I would be far that. But these composite bats are insane ones they get broken in. It should be unlawful for a bat to be legit when it is new and become illegal when and after it is used THAT is just plain stupid But we all know if one company is allowed to continue to do this the others are going to follow
Nov. 12, 2009 Garocket	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: NOTE REGARDING LAS VEGAS PLAYING FACILITIES Agreed 100% It makes for a much better game Also these same discussions were being said when it went from 60 ft to 65 Not on message boards ( they were not around then LOL) and when they first went from 46 pitching to 50 you would have thought they had ruined softball the way it was sounding, but quess what after a few weeks everybody was happy they changed them the 53 or 55 pitching does not affect the hitters at all the 70 foot bases will only be thought about on close plays LOL for the average player running thats only 1 step more to each base . But it does take away that Texas leaguer being a double or at least it makes the batter think about it a little more. It acutally has more effect on fast runner than slower Takes away that slapper that tries and beat it into the ground and out run it to 1st
Nov. 11, 2009 Garocket	Topic: Tournaments Discussion: NOTE REGARDING LAS VEGAS PLAYING FACILITIES Don't let the 70 ft bother you We moved our bases back to 70 ft 2 years ago because GRPA ( Georgia Parks & Recreation Agency) did it and so did ISA. It was almost a month before the teams even noticed it. Now they do think it makes for a better game. And we also play seniors here and they did not even blink an eye. With the majority saying it did not impact play at all. And about NSA having 3 base distance I think not They have 60 for fast pitch and 70 for adults. Most recreation departments would not go in and set around 12-14 sets of anchors for a 1 weekend tournament. And I am sure you do not want tie down bases
Nov. 10, 2009 Garocket	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Why dont teams get to rate umpires ? If umpires are to be rated it should be with a few guidlines. Number 1 is it should be done fair to the umpire the same way as it should be done fair to the teams Teams should not be rated on 1 game or 1 tournament. Neither should umpires However umpiring is the only job that people expect you to be perfect the 1st game and get better with age Coach's and players should really take a long look at the umpire in general. 1 Does he dress like an umpire, look like an umpire, talk like an umpire, act like an umpire, all of these things go into being a great umpire. I have umpired at the highest levels of softball all the way from park and recreation youth t-ball to the Men's Super ASA Nationals and the one thing that umpires must relize is that park and recreation game is just as important to those players as the Super National is to those players. Knowing the rules before you ever go out on the field is a must. You as an umpire should feel that there is nothing that can happen on that field that you do not know the rule and how to apply it. Umpires should know the difference between black and white and sometimes grey is not bad as long as it is not giving one team an advantage over the other Hustle, Hustle, Hustle. You might not see it the way others do but NO reason not to be close on the play. I alway teach in my umpire clinics to Hustle with you head and you will not need to depend on you feet as much. Always think like a ball player should think and I say SHOULD THINK is because sometime ball players do not think. If a runner is on 1st and a ball is hit to the outfield the ump should start walking toward 3rd base that way when he sees there is going to be a play at 3rd he is already over half way down there and just a few quick steps and he is in postion, instead of staying behind homeplate until the ball is thrown then he is not fast enough to get in postion. Always respect the game and the players, Never down anybody, because you would not want to be downed either. Talk to players and coaches but keep it a part of the game not a distraction from the game. Always use Sir or madam or coach. Use an umpires voice during game but not over bearing. A weak voice sends a signal to players and coaches that this umpire may be weak on difficult decision or weak to confrontation. If you are blocked on a call or did not see the entire play don't be too proud to ask your partner. If you are working 2 or 3 man mechanics. If only 1 man mechanics never work more that 2-3 games in a row. There is no way you can do the teams and the game justice out there after 2-3 games. No matter how young or fast you are the mind and body will slow down after a few hours if you ump the game the way it should be umpired there will be no question that you did your best and most all the time the teams will respect that even if they do not agree with all of your calls. Rating umpires should never be DID I AGREE WITH HIS CALLS. But raing an umpire should be did he do his job the best that he could and was he in postion. Did he handle the game and players in a professional matter. If he did all of this the likely hood of him getting most of the calls correct is much greater than not that he did you and your team a solid job There is one word that will always make a good umpire and that word is PRIDE If he has pride he will do a good job and see that the teams gets what they paid for
Nov. 6, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: some thoughts about our game for change If SSUSA wants to improve the game and make it safer for the pitcher, here is a few things that could be done 6-12 pitching is good. The one thing that would help but is a nightmare to keep up with is the batters box. If the batter is made to sat in the 3x7 box the pitcher has a lot more control ovewr where the batter is going to hit it. Back in the 60s and 70s the batter box was called, and as a pitcher I could keep the ball out of the middle until we wanted someone to hit the middle so we could turn a double play. Any pitcher that is any pitcher at all can keep the ball close to where he wants and if he keeps it on the inside half of the plate, with a batters box the batter is going to pull the ball. The exceptio is a good hiter can ibside out the swing, but that does take some of the power out of the swing and most pitchers can react to that swing. I know this is a nightmare to keep up with the box but some companies make a batters box marker thats almost like a suitcase handle with a chaulk holder that just needs to be bumped on the ground and it makes the lines These could be behind the cather and used ever half inning that could be redone while teams are changing sides only takes about 15 seconds per batters box Just a way to get the game back under control
Oct. 29, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Garocket Bruce , no I was not playing at that time with Riegel but have played against them many time. Back when Whitey Tucker played with them and that was in the mid to late 70s when you got 2 new SB12s a game and when those went out of play the umpire went to his bag and brought out the sure enough old ones. We played them in Greenwood SC one year and beat them in 5 innings only to come to Dalton for the state at the old Shaw park and after we lost the first game on Friday night to Galaxy Carpet came all the way back to meet the Rifles and they beat our brakes of 18-3. But I will say with all the partying we did on Friday and Saturday night we only had 1 good game in us on Sunday and we got by the CWS Reds out of the Macon area. That baseball field at Shaw was a booger to hit it out of but the show field at that park was a lot of fun. I bet you played some or at least have heard of BIG DADDY Porky Bagwell, Dam that is when it was fun
Oct. 28, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Balls in general Come on Einstein where are all your supporters for hot balls and bats. I have been noticing that almost nobody is with you on this subject You say the vegas ball was perfect and more and more people are calling it an insane, crazy and not the norm. Balls flying out way to easy. I am just waiting on some of your supporters, cause all I hear from you is you speak for the masses of senior players , Well it does not seem the masses are backing up up As one poster said so nicely Down goes Rinaldi, Down Goes Rinalda, Down goes Rinaldi That sounds soooooo good C,mon Joe you have to admit that is funny
Oct. 28, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Balls in general Einstein I have more stones than you might think. I am 55 and do still play, but when I do play I play with the ( as you might say the kids) We play Men's Class C, did play B until it seemed evrybody starting dropping down. Is my team great NO but we still hang in there and compete. And no we do not get to use the Senior bats but I do hit a long one on occassions. I try to make sure I am on base when the true homerun hitters come up. I had my chance to play at the higher level in the 70s and played Major Industrial against teams like Pharr Yarn they have a few in the ASA Hall of Fame. Combustion Engineering out of Tenn, Aetna Life insurance from NC and the old Riegel Rifles, Sikorsky Air, Pabst International so believe me I have been around the block just as much or more than you ever will. But I will say in the 70s and 80s that was when softball was real and it took men to hit a homerun NOT WITH PLASTIC STICKS. I would say at best, I was average to above average but worked on my game everyday and had some success with the long ball. 4-5 each tournament it seemed. But I can say I never said we had to have hot balls and bats Just an old DCXX or later the Meathead and we could hit them just as far as we needed to. So to say I have no Stones is an understatement. Cause I figure If I had to I would still outplay you old AZZ
Oct. 28, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Balls in general Hockey is still using the same puck as 30 years ago , Do you want to go back to the ball they used in the 80s the SB12, Years ago suspension helments in football, now they have space age foam and air helments. Race cars do use restricter plates to slow them down. And the maple bat quote was kinda stupid. Maple is still wood just a good wood Just like CU31 is a good aluminum alloy but its not composites Seniors going from CU31 to composites would be like Pros going from Maple to Aluminum . A HUGE GAME CHANGER Joe you are losing the argument and looking more stupid everyday. I would say dumb down the ball a little Have HRs as singles and no PPR rule , just let the pitcher pitch from the rubber to six foot back and you would have a good game. SSUSA needs to have a bat testing equipemnt and not let the bats get any hotter than the present bats. Cause if that is not kept in check they are just going to keep making them hotter and hotter
Oct. 27, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Balls in general Spoken like a true upper division player You are not speaking for the majority of players. Only the majority of upper class players. The AA and AAA and some major players had rather have it were it is safer and not ever TOM, DICK and Gump can hit a homerun. Why is it there is 10 times as many AA and AAA teams then there are Major and Major plus. Because not everbody lives to hit the homerun. They like to play softball the way it was intended to be played the smaller and average guys setting the table for the big boy to clean up the bases. Let the Majors hit homeruns for singles and watch the number of teams decrease. Joe you either adapt or go play golf. I am sure the masses want a good ball but not what you think is good you want the hottest ball so you can feel good about yourself. I am sure many people would rather see you less on the mesaage board and seeing you working out more so you can hit the so called dead ball better AGAIN P U K E
Oct. 26, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Balls in general You are right Dirty , Gump will not let this die, He is so afraid that the balls might not be as hot next year and he will not be able to walk around with that chest stuck out. He says it is about having fun. Well you would think he could have fun think him hitting it 305 would be fun, not the GREAT Joe he has to hear the ball crack so he get his jollies on making people think he is the GREAT one. He actual makes a lot of people on my tea want to puke. I wish he woul take up golf and get off this board. Joe you are start to be an complete ass about this subject. So please shut up you little moaner
Oct. 14, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Ohio Senior Player Injured Einstien where are all your supporters at Don't see many You keep saying that people want to make money of safer balls, I cannot see that the TD still has to buy the balls makes no difference how safe or unsafe it is. If you are as good as you think you are, then you could hit the safer balls over a 300 ft fence . If only the homerun hitters hit homeruns then there would be no need for a homerun to be an out. But it is ridiculous that every team until you get to the 70s have 4-5 that can go yard with the new balls and bats. And the pitchers and infielders are in danger cause you want this to happen so Little ol Joe can hit a towering homerun and stick his chest out and strut his stuff, Makes me sick to see people like that. I have played more than likely more softball than most people on here. I have hit my share of homeruns back when it meant something. I have played some senior ball and most of the guys that I play with wants safety first. The league that I play in you can only use metal bats no compsites and no double walls with a 44/375 ball. Guess what I still hit homeruns. and have a great time. I agree I don't hit as many as I do with the U2 but have lots more fun hitting a homerun that most people can't and it makes for some of the most fun games I play in. And once again I SAY Einstien you are on an EGO trip beyond belief if you think the majority does not want a safer ball and by the way Joe in todays society the word PRICK is slang for one ego maniac that thinks he is always right, and does not listen to reason and is always running off at the mouth so someone will give him the attention that he craves, because he knows most people do not like him or her
Oct. 13, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Ohio Senior Player Injured Einstein is a self centered prick. Like it was said above, maybe not more injuries but a lot more severe. I have been hit on the shins and in the side of the head back when the balls were a lot less compressed and the bats were not as hot. But an object that is harder and trveling at a much faster rate of speed creates a lot more dangerous collision. A car going 30 hitting a solid wall and a car going 50 is a big difference. I know Joe will have a come back because his personality is one of argument and he has to have the last word cause he thinks he is the softball god and what he says should be rule
Sept. 29, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: new ball talk Einstein Joe. Why do you think everbody is doing something for money except you. I think if Terry had not at least tried the new 52/275 it would have been a disservice to his clients. After the trial it could have been just what the doctor ordered. It wasn't so he is not using it. If it was all about the money do you think Terry could not go back to a 47 cor 525 and get Trump to only make that ball with a Senior Softball Stamp and make just as much or more money cause evrybody would be wanting it. The whole problem is you do not won't the game to be as it was years ago. The scores 8-10 years ago was almosy always single digits with very few homeruns, You want it so your little punk azz can hit a homerun with out working on your game. You want the technology to hit it for you so you can stick out your chest and hope some fat chick on the sidelines will ask you for your autograph. I am sure most people on this board would enjoy not seeing you on here at all. You do not speak for the majority, NOT even close
Sept. 28, 2009 Garocket	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: new ball talk Einstien you have to be the biggest prick on this board. You talk like you are the King of softball. It is evident that you are not worth a Crap or you would not worry so much about the ball. Hell roll me up a sock I will hit it out sometimes with the U2. If you were half as good as you Think you are you would have a video and I am sure it would be called EINSTIEN THE GREAT. Players that know how to hit can hit most any ball maybe not quite as far but they will still shine. Is that what you are worried about that you are not good enough to shine, You make most of the people on this board sick with your petty little crap. Play the game the way it was designed and the ball or the bat has very little affect on the out come. You Einstien please fade away, we are getting very tired of your same old crap
April 8, 2009 Garocket	Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: OLD SPICE PRESENTS: YOU MAKE THE CALL Listen guys there are easier ways to remember these rules. 1 Overthrows are always 2 basses from last base touched at time of throw (i.e runner hits ball to shortstop , he throws it into the stands runner gets 2nd baseif for some dumb reason the shortstop lets its go agter the runner touches frst he would be awarded 3rd base 2 Any base that a runner passes he has assumed to have touched unless appealed

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