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| March 15, 2017 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: INTERFERENCE PENALTY B.J you are correct in the ruling above but remember in ASA it states if interference by a runner THAT HAS ALREADT been put out, Then the runner closet to home is called out. In the scenario above the runner going to second was already out and by all other associations other than SSUSA the runner closet to home is also called out. Unless the umpire calls SSUSA only about 90% of the umpires will miss this call in the heat of the game. |
| March 8, 2017 Garocket | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: TOC 2017 I think only 5 of those fields are big enough for adult softball |
| Feb. 6, 2017 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: All you rule experts: Need your input.. I went to the 2017 USSSA Rule book and could not find what the ruling on ball hitting the runner on base but did see two things 1 was dead ball if it hits a runner or umpire if before it passes a fielder and live ball if it touches either after passing a fielder. Just could not find out anything on when a runner is on base that gets hit and what the effect was? |
| Nov. 17, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rules In the above the R! went to third Sorry |
| Nov. 17, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rules Coop better look that on up cause you are wrong. The runner his assumed to have touched the bag once he passes it. If the 1st baseman or any player says he missed the base and the 1st baseman is standing on the base he would be declared out unless he had already returned to the base. Think about it this way. If a runner is on 1st and the batter hits a single R1 misses 2nd base, no one except the umpire seen it, and the outfielder throws it to second and the 2nd baseman is standing on second nobody says anything the umpire does not call him out without an appeal. WHY because once a runner passes a bag he has assumed to have touched it unless there is an appeal. Same at first. |
| Nov. 15, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: BATTERS BOX Just found this on a baseball site, would assume it would be the same in softball. See 8.4.1B -- if either foot is entirely out of the batter's box, then the batter is out if hit by a fair batted ball |
| Nov. 15, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: BATTERS BOX If t he foot that touches the ball and the ball and foot is outside the batters box he would be called out. The other foot has no bearing. NOW remember the foot and the ball both have to be in fair territory out side of the batters box. |
| Nov. 14, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: BATTERS BOX If any part of his body (usually the foot)touches the ball while the foot and ball is outside the batters box and over fair territory he would be called out. If the ball and batter is still in the batters box it would be a dead ball>foul ball call. |
| Oct. 26, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rule clarification II But still in limbo, because SSUSA does not say what to do about any outs recorded during the batting out of order only about advancement of runners. I think SSUSA says if not covered in their rule book revert back to ASA? Isn't that true ? |
| Oct. 26, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rule clarification II BUT This is what I found on an ASA site COMMONLY OCCURRING ASA SOFTBALL RULES AND POINTS OF EMPHASIS BATTING OUT OF ORDER If a batter bats out of order, this is an appeal play, which must be brought to the umpire's attention. If it is detected while the incorrect batter is at bat, the correct batter assumes the count and all plays made will stand. If it is detected after the incorrect batter has completed their turn at bat and before the next pitch (legal or illegal), the improper batter’s time at bat is negated, the batter who should have batted is out, any advance or score made because of the improper batter's advance is negated, runners not called out must return to the last base occupied at the time of the pitch, however runners put out on the play remain out. The next batter is the player whose name follows that of the player called out for failing to bat. If the error is discovered after the first pitch to the next batter, the turn at bat of the incorrect batter is legal, all runs scored and bases run are legal and the next batter shall be the one whose name follows that of the incorrect batter. No one is called out for failure to bat. No base runner shall be removed from a base to bat in his/her proper place. They merely miss their turn at bat with no penalty. So who do we believe ? LOL |
| Oct. 26, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rule clarification II Retraction I also found another rule that says all runners return to the base before the pitch and you would only get the batting out of order out |
| Oct. 26, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rule clarification II B.J. Do you really think I am that smart LOL I copied and pasted the rule from rule book. Google batting out of turn after an out |
| Oct. 26, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: rule clarification II Not as easy as you might think Rule If a batter bats out of order, this is an appeal play, which must be brought to the umpire's attention. If it is detected while the incorrect batter is at bat, the correct batter assumes the count and all plays made will stand. If it is detected after the incorrect batter has completed their turn at bat and before the next pitch (legal or illegal), the improper batter’s time at bat is negated, the batter who should have batted is out, any advance or score made because of the improper batter's advance is negated, runners not called out must return to the last base occupied at the time of the pitch, however runners put out on the play remain out. The next batter is the player whose name follows that of the player called out for failing to bat. If the error is discovered after the first pitch to the next batter, the turn at bat of the incorrect batter is legal, all runs scored and bases run are legal and the next batter shall be the one whose name follows that of the incorrect batter. No one is called out for failure to bat. No base runner shall be removed from a base to bat in his/her proper place. They merely miss their turn at bat with no penalty. So in you play the runner at that scored would be put back at third and not count, The two outs that were made on the play are still credited and the batter that was suppose to bat is out. 3 outs no body scored the batter that did not bat misses his at bat that round and whoevers name that is listed after the batter that did not bat leads off the next inning |
| Oct. 17, 2016 Garocket | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Speed up rules Think what you want but the 1-1 count will give you at least 1 extra inning 90% of the time. You have to relize 1-2 minutes of time equates to an extra inning a lot of times Example time runs out with 2 outs in bottom of 5th you play the open inning as the 6th. If you get that out before the two minutes is up you play the 6th inning and the 7th would be the open inning |
| Oct. 15, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire Hit by a Batted Ball The pitcher is not considered an infielder in this situation unless he touches the ball |
| Oct. 11, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire Hit by a Batted Ball 9.1 X. When a fair ball strikes an umpire or base runner on fair ground before passing or touching an infielder. I also found this |
| Oct. 11, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire Hit by a Batted Ball Straight from the rule book SSUSA 9.2 • THE BALL IS IN PLAY A. At the start of each half inning, when the pitcher has the ball in the pitching position and the umpire has called "play ball". B. When the infield fly rule is enforced. C. When a thrown ball goes past a fielder and remains in playable territory. D. When a fair ball strikes an umpire or base runner on fair ground after passing or touching an infielder. |
| Oct. 11, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire Hit by a Batted Ball Stick I think you are right in USSSA but in ASA, NSA,ISA if the umpire is in front of a defensive person other than the pitcher and it hits him it is a dead ball umpire interference |
| Oct. 11, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Umpire Hit by a Batted Ball Not sure about senior rules but all other rule book states that ball touching anything other than a defensive player is also like touching the ground. If it hits a base the pitching rubber or a fence or umpire it is the same as hitting the ground. With that being said, it also states that any ball that touches an umpire and the ball has not passed all infielders except the pitcher it is a dead ball. If the pitcher touches the ball then it would stay alive. Now in most associations there is that rule that states if the ball has passed and infielder and hits the umpire it is alive ball unless another defensive player has a chance to make a play on the ball. |
| Aug. 18, 2016 Garocket | Topic: Associations Discussion: Unfavorable weather conditons...... Our league for years played with a 4-3 count no extra foul, We had a 1 hour finish the inning if needed. Never got more than 5 innings in. Maybe 6 every now and then. Went to a 1-1 count no extra foul and we almost always play 7 innings. May 1 or two games a year goes only 6 innings. I think the scores have went up a little as players are ready to hit and do not get themselves in a hole and have to swing at bad pitches. With a 4-3 count most games was like 13-15 or 14-12. No games are like 18-19 or 21-24 and we play them in less than an hour. |
