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April 1, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OBSTRUCTION

Stick If the runner never tried to leg it out to second the umpire just cannot assume he would make it so the runner stays at first, However if he had tried to go to second and was close the ump would have his arm out and call obstruction but since he got back to 1st no other ruling.


Neck there is not rule that says how hard you have to hit the ball. It says you cannot bunt or chop downward on the ball.

Does not sound like the play above was either one of them so the runner would be safe.

Next thing you know someone will want a rule about a player hitting it to hard LOL
April 1, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OBSTRUCTION

Nancy I do not have a horse in the race either. I have been umpiring since 1985 and I understand that an umpire must call a ruling by the way it is written in the book. And I do, But bringing it up for discussion and pointing out the good parts compared to the bad or not so good points is what brings them up for discussion at the National Conventions. Not saying anything would get changed but at least a discussion is taken place.

The 4 base award gets brought up each year and I enforce it the way it is written.
But it does take some defense out of the game

Example if an outfielder climbs the fence and tries to make a great catch and he touches it but does not catch it he is penelized for trying to play great defense as the homerun is now a four base award and the offensive team is allowed to have another homerun.

Do not agree with the ruling but I understand it and call it that way.
April 1, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OBSTRUCTION

Nancy, has nothing to to with heart and more to do with common sense.

I have been to many umpire schools some weekends and some the week long versions and they always teach if it does not make sense then you are usally wrong. Well this rule does not make sense.

All obstruction should be ruled the same.
I feel it should be: You can never be called out between the bases you are obstructed between, and you are protected until the base the Umpire thought you could have made without the obstruction.

If a player gets obstructed at first and he gets thrown out by 10 steps at second you do not award him second you put him back at first. However if he bumps into the 1st baseman and gets tagged as he is sliding into 2nd. close play. You award allow him second as that is where he would have gotten without the obstruction.




March 31, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Las Vegas Field Assignments

Point well made
Point well taken
March 31, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OBSTRUCTION

Any rule that does not make sense should be either changed or looked at seriously. This rule makes no sense. A runner should never be called out between the bases he is obstructed between. But just advancing the runner is not a good rule.

Just my opinion. In the case above you are advancing two runners not just one.
March 31, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Las Vegas Field Assignments

Well if you have already booked why worry about where you are playing. Are you going to change Motels if your fields are two far away?

Not being smart, just a question.
March 31, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Las Vegas Field Assignments

As Many locations as there is to stay in Las Vegas I would not worry about it. I would bet a few chips that you will not have a problem getting rooms close to the fields that you are playing at once the field assigniments are out. Just another one of us senior criers wanting something to cry about.

I drive more than 20 miles for my league games. It sure will not bother me to drive 20 to play. I am not sure it is 20 miles from Shadow rock to any of the fields that they will be playing on.
March 27, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OBSTRUCTION

When a runner, while advancing or returning to a base, is obstructed by
a fielder who neither has the ball nor is attempting to field a batted or
thrown ball, or a fielder who fakes a tag without the ball, the obstructed
runner and each other runner affected by the obstruction will always be
awarded the base or bases that would have been reached, in the
umpire's judgment, had there been no obstruction. If the umpire feels
there is justification, a defensive player making a fake tag could be
ejected from the game.


Look close it says only the base or bases the umpire thought he would have gotten without the obstruction

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Jan. 23, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Runner Hit by Batted Ball

Thta is correct.

Now lets throw one more out there
Runner on 3rd
Batter hits a shot down third base line that hits the bag meanwhile the runner has jumped into foul ground. the fair ball that hits the base bounces back and hits the runner.

Whats the call?
Jan. 22, 2014
Garocket
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Bat policy

Every Association that has it SA on a bat gets a licence fee same with the balls. The problem with the common person is they have no idea how to run a business

In our state even the high schools have to use a specfic ball in playoffs and state championships, SO the high school association makes sure the players are used to the feel of Wilson Balls so they all but them for the teams
Image every high school in your state using the same brand

lets say 700 high schools
each football varsity team has 20 footballs
the JV team has 10
ehight grade teams ghave 6-8
and most high school have two or 3 lower feeder schools
so 20 footballs for HS
10 for JV
3 feeders at 6 per feeder
Thats 48 fotballs x 700 schools thats 33,600 footballs and they get replinished about every 3 years or so.

Now thats just footballs that does not count the Basketsballs which you have to have Girls sizes and boys sizes
Baseball
Softballs
Voleyballs

And the state gets a once a year sponsorship from this company

And this goes on evry where
I hear no body complaning about this
and you pay for them with your tax dollars

Just good business practice if you ask me
Dec. 30, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: All the hate on DBO with senior bats...how about this?

I would say in the Major Plus and Major Plus only have a 7 runs per inning until the 5th. All homeruns count NO DBOs
After 5 innings let runs per inning be unlimited.
Visting team comes in and goes up by 5 the home team comes in and scores 15 thats a 10 run rule ball game over
That would save some time
Dec. 30, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: All the hate on DBO with senior bats...how about this?

Adiktiv6 you are most likely correct with composite bats you more than likely do get a lot of kisses
But without the composites or the Viagra you would not get any of either
Dec. 26, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: All the hate on DBO with senior bats...how about this?

Tim you know they are not going to do this. It was expose their manhood. They could not go back to the Motel at night and tell the young wife how many homeruns they hit.

They had rather loss the bottle of Viagra then the composite bats. The thunder sticks makes them feel like real men
Dec. 12, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: HR rule - why????

I know how it feels when you are the home team. score our 5 in the bottom of the 6th to almost catch up. Only behind 18-20 But the top of the 7th the visiting team comes in and unleashed the beast LOL

hit 16 Homeruns in the top of the seventh and went ahead 46 to 18. I know after about 25 minutes I was tired of watching it. We came in and put up 9 but never got close.

Oh and by the way that inning took over 30 minutes because we changed pitchers 3 times to try and break the mo but it never happened
Dec. 11, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: HR rule - why????

I like the DBO, as a pitcher it gives me some strategy.
Bases open in the early innings serve up a biscuit let them hit the solo.

I think good major team can now play with a good major plus.

If the major plus players want to play with unlimited homeruns go to, no composite bats allowed in Major plus and let the real men hit some homeruns.

Bet that rule will never happen because the so called homerun hitters would quite the game before they became exposed as the weak hitters they really are.
All they know how to do is hit it hard and hope it goes out.

Most of them were the ones that hit it 274 on the old 275 fences. never worked on the correct skills to exceed and was reborn when composites came out.

If you are a true athelte you will adapt to whatever rule they come out with.


Nov. 11, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

Paul in the 1st one that is obstruction , the rule says a runner can never be ruled out between the bases that he was obstructed between. If the umpire thinks he could have made second without the obstruction then he would be placed on 2nd otherwise he would be put back on 1st.

In the second one, once the umpire calls a foul ball that is what we have to live with, not always right but that would be a judgement call however bad the judgement is.

Not like calling it foul when it hits the foul pole, that would be a rule interpertation. a good umpire would have took two or three quick steps to get the 1st baseman out of line of vison.
Nov. 11, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

Curly on the play above when runner gets hit with ball while he is on the bag at third with bases loaded
It would be a dead ball and all runners would move up one base the batter would be credited with a hit and the runner that was on third would eventually score once he could get up and advance toward home
Nov. 8, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

In ASA and others if the pitcher does not touch it the runner would be out.

The runner at third would be out 99% of the time cause there are not many 3rd basemen crazey enough to play in front of third LOL
Nov. 8, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

Ok it appears that stick is an umpire or player with a lot of rule knowledge

Give me an answer to this one

Runner on third batter hits a line drive toward third, the runner jumps into foul ball territory however the ball hits the base making it a fair ball then bounces over and hits the runner standing in foul area.

whats the call

the runner got hit by a fair ball but he is standing in foul ground?
Nov. 8, 2013
Garocket
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Rules question. Happened at Huntsman

Well since the pitcher did not touch the ball
The ball would be dead the runner called out and the batter would be awarded a hit and placed on 1st base

You now have two outs with a runner on first.

If the pitcher had touched it and no other defensive player had a chance to make an out then the ball would remain alive unless the runner intentionally made contact with the ball

Stick you have to come up with something harder than that.

Lets say the runner at second was still on the bag at second when the ball contacted him
now what is the ruling
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