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March 20, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Associations
Discussion: SPA v SSUSA

Have limited experience with SPA since they have so few tournaments on the west coast. Went to one in Carson City a few years ago (it was to be the first of a five-year run of tournaments…but was the only year) and found it well run (as are SSUSA) with quality umps (ditto SSUSA).

We noted that SPA was much more particular about bats, inspecting each bat individually and then certifying it with a stamp (no stamp on bat and you're kicked out of tournament). Don't have a problem with that although it sure slowed down registering by having to pull out all possible bats from your bag.

Also, SPA had some rule that allowed a short rest break for older teams rather than back to back games in summer heat. Thought that was wise. I liked the prayer for the teams and tournament. Who doesn't need more prayer? I would play SPA again, but it seems unlikely after their short experiment in the area.

Our team is going to play 4 SSUSA tournaments this year, after playing only 1 a couple of years back. That says something, although we had to up our self-sponsored tournament costs because SSUSA are much more expensive, a little less than twice as high. We might reconsider so many in future because of cost. We can play more than seven tournaments in California for the cost of four SSUSA.
March 17, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Required Face Masks

Yes, Swing, there's nothing like seeing a power hitter slightly miss hit your pitch, turning to watch it float toward your fielder, the fielder taps his glove…and the ball misses his glove and hits him right in the face! I've seen you play outfield and you are welcome to play for my team anytime. All you need is 15-20 years more "experience" on you to qualify. :=)
March 16, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Required Face Masks

DC Pete, I'm thinking about the injuries my team has incurred in the last 100 tournaments (about 600 games).

Pitcher hit by ball: 5-10 times
1B hit by batted ball: 8-10 times
2B hit by batted ball: 5-6 times
SS hit by batted ball: 7-8 times
3B hit by batted ball: 9-10 times
Outfielder hit by batted ball: 5-6 times
Collision injury: 4 times
hit by thrown ball: 5 times
running injury (including slip/fall): 6 - 10 times
Throwing injury: 1-3 times
Catcher injured: 1

Summary:
Hit by batted ball: 39 - 50 for average of 44 times (69%)
All other injuries: 20 times (31%)

Where did you come up with your statistic of 85% of all injuries are not from batted ball?

Also, of my non-batted ball injuries, only 1 required first aid. Of the batted ball injuries, 5 required medical treatment. Breaking a bone/nose/eye socket or concussion are much worse than a scrape or twisted ankle or pulled muscle or tendon (the other non-batted ball injures). Fortunately, all of our collision injuries have only resulted in bruises.

That's what the commotion is about. Only anecdotal for me. I would be interested in others' experiences.
March 15, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Required Face Masks

I agree with cyborg45 that softball is supposed to be somewhat dangerous. It is part of its popularity. When I started pitching, the distance from home plate was 37 feet! Those of us who have played over the decades remember pitchers that got plunked, infielders hurt by bad hops, broken ankles by outfielders, and a variety of injuries from thrown balls or batted balls, even to the level of concussions. If we had access to the national statistics, there are probably several players a year who die on the field, most from head injuries. The risk of a broken bone was part of the game.

But that was SOMEWHAT dangerous. The current conditions, where a ball is leaving the bat at 100 mph, is not somewhat but very dangerous. Tournament players are not all "very good athletes". They are older men and with age comes slowed reflexes, diminished sight, injured or strained bodies that no longer respond quickly. It's true their skills have been "honed over many years". But they were never honed to the point that they could handle the kind of speed we see today. Can you imagine a wooden bat sending a softball out that fast? Nope, not even with a hot ball.

Protection has its limitations. Inadequate masks, lack of a chest protector, no leg guards, are leaving the pitchers, especially, vulnerable to the insane speeds of a batted ball. Watch a game with 65s or older and see how many infielders now wear a mask. How has this come about? That to play a game we love, one we have played for decades, we now have to be armored up for our safety. It's the bats!
March 14, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Required Face Masks

garyheifner, what makes you think that only pitchers are at risk with the hot bat/ball combo so prevalent today? My infielders have also taken a beating (broken nose, elbow, etc.) and now two of them wear masks. A bad hop coming off a single wall is often fieldable (and skilled infielders have been fielding them for decades) but a bad hop off a hot bat, or a ball that hits the pitching rubber coming at excessive speed because of the composite bat also cause damage. It's not just pitchers at risk, but all infielders. Outfielders seldom get hit, they just wear out chasing balls on 300+ outfield because of the hot bats. JDub has it right—hot bats have made the game more dangerous and more taxing than ever, especially for older players. And I agree with you, that it is time to wear a helmet-mask combo if you want better protection.
March 13, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Bats
Discussion: God's Sports Company P413 Senior Bat

I wonder what the status of this wonder bat is. I seem to remember that we were promised regular status updates by the company, but I don't remember any for more than a year. Is it still moving toward production? Have they given up? It seems like they are still sponsoring a successful team…or has it disbanded? The field is still wide open for a guaranteed durable, high quality bat.
March 8, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Rating Question

Swing reluctant to go middle on Einstein? That seems unlikely. Good to hear that Rinaldi is still active in softball. Always a joy to watch.
Feb. 28, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: 50 MAJOR & MAJOR PLUS COMBINED

It gets even better for NCSSA. The average tournament entry cost is $300-310. Seems like guys pay a lot more in other associations. At every tournament you are guaranteed 5 or 6 games on the weekend because of the round robin schedule (no reason for a seeding round because teams are already rated). Teams that are over 60 are never scheduled to play under the lights. A guy can be on two different rosters. We use SSUSA rules with a few exceptions: for example, there is no mandatory face mask; bases are 65 feet; pitcher has a box that is 10 feet deep. It's amazing what teams can do when they organize to provide satisfying weekend softball opportunities.
Feb. 21, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: So the question was....how to get more teams to play Major Plus

Several years back, I am playing on a AAA team that is a better than average AAA. We are in a tournament and because there are so few Major and Major+ teams, we are playing a Major+ team in the seeding rounds. What a team! Best one I have ever seen in my age group. I'm playing catcher that game and the hitters are pounding the ball. The bats whistle when they come around. They score 5 in the first inning. No one makes an out.

In the second inning, the barrage continues. I wonder if they have ANYONE on the team who can't hit the long ball. The last man in the order is up, a skinny left-hander. On the first pitch, he fouls the ball weakly down the third base side. "Finally", I think, "a guy that we can make an out on." The next pitch he powers to right field. Into a 15mph wind. Over a 310 foot fence! We are crushed in the game.

Combine Major and Major+? Not a popular idea with teams like us, legitimate good AAA teams playing over our heads now and then and at risk of being moved up to Major. We would have NO chance against the elite Major+! We had one player who would hit the ball over the fence about once every two tournaments and another player who did it twice in the year. That's why we wouldn't be able to hang with most Major teams. Combine the two levels and teams like ours will do everything they can to avoid paying high fees to get beat up by the super teams.

Needless to say, we were self-sponsored and I've aged out of the AAA team, but I don't think we are alone in realizing that we would have little chance of winning a tourney against legit major teams, and no chance winning a tournament against Major+ teams. We continue to be unwilling to break up a long-term group of guys. If Major and Major+ were combined, and we were moved up to Major, we would probably stop going to SSUSA tournaments. We would still get in 16-20 tournaments a year playing in NCSSA.
Feb. 1, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Facing one batter

SSUSA Staff, I agree with the perception that teams stop hustling as much when they see they are going to get a complete game in, but disagree with the time spent being as much as three or four innings! A bit of an exaggeration. Of course the open inning can last longer, but often the home team doesn't even bat in the last inning. Agree that teams should be ready to go, but it won't cost THAT much time that they dawdle a bit in the sixth.
Jan. 26, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: What to do with trophies, uniforms, tee-shirts?

Nancy, good idea. My longtime team sponsor of many decades ended up with lots of trophies. We found that the leaders of local Special Olympics were very glad to have them and they were easily transformed into meaningful trophies, even for events that didn't involve swinging a bat as the figure on top of the trophy implied.
Jan. 25, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: weight of ball?

Igotit, you may not be a scientist, but it sounds like the NFL could use your help.
Jan. 25, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Playin in Cuba?

Bunch of guys from northern California went over about 4 or 5 years ago. They were mostly in their 60s and 70s. They had a blast touring and seeing all the old cars. They donated a lot of equipment they had collected (gloves, shoes, batting gloves, etc.) to the Cubans. The highlight was supposed to be playing another senior ball club. Problem #1: the Cuban team wasn't all that senior! Had some guys who looked to be in their 20s, 30s. Problem #2: despite the translator assuring them that he had carefully explained the rules, late in the game a Cuban came home after rounding third and ran right over the catcher who was standing on home plate, not expecting to get steamrolled! Catcher was in his 70s and had to have medical treatment for awhile once he returned to the States. Took some of the shine off of the trip. This team also flew directly from the US. I think the game was under the banner of some kind of good will "ambassadorship" and there wasn't much red tape.

Some guys weren't interested in going because of the corrupt dictatorship and prisons stuffed with political prisoners. I had a chance to go with a college-sponsored "educational" tour a few years ago but turned it down because Castro had just cracked down and imprisoned many public and college LIBRARIANS! Why? Because they had allowed the wrong political books in their libraries. I thought it was hypocritical for the college to continue its tour effort since the crackdown was part of an ongoing effort to stifle freedom as several academics were also imprisoned in that purge.
Jan. 6, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Bats
Discussion: Do you use senior bats in non tournament games/leagues?

We use senior bats in all of our league games but with restrictions:

50-60 league: use of senior bats except on fields with closer fences and rec department penalties for hitting outside the park.

Pick-up team leagues (ages 50 - 90): senior bats for only women and over 74

Tournament teams league: senior bats for 60 and over

We do not allow senior bats for pre-game batting practice by under 75 men in the pick-up team leagues because of the crowded fields during the batting practice.

Our twice-a-week batting practice-only sessions allow any bats, including senior (or original Ultra for that matter)

We have had a very good safety record with these rules and no unhappy players.
Jan. 3, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

cal50, that made me laugh! So true.
Jan. 3, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitcher safety screens.

JBTexas, the discussion on this site a few years back was about softball participation in general, not necessarily only seniors. I think mad dog and others were lamenting about the decline of softball as a sport. They talked about a couple of decades back where fields were jammed and it was difficult to enter as a new team because of the lack of field availability. Then they said this has changed and there are fields open. In our area, the situation was similar—too many teams for too few fields. Now we have nights that don't have any league play on some of the fields. Not enough players to fill all fields.

But since I don't play in Texas, I am only going on what was reported by Texans. This is not a new issue with me. I have been discouraged by the declining participation in softball at all levels—rec play, church leagues, business teams, etc. And relevant to us, the missing men in senior play. Where are they and why have they dropped out? There has always been attrition because of poor health, finances, injury, other growing interests (like fishing or tennis), family dynamics, etc. But the number of healthy males over 50 is booming compared to the past, and where are they? The census count says a 36% increase in 10 years, but if we had statistics for 2013 or 2014, I would guess the rate has accelerated to 4% a year. I fault the extra hot bats (and I didn't even mention the men I know who have stopped playing because of safety reasons). What else has changed so dramatically?

AJC, I agree that teams are lost through disbanding all the time, and it may be that newer teams are mostly replacing disbanding ones, but if softball was still a draw there should be another 100 men in the last 10 years in our 50 and over club. And there are not. I do agree that so many men have become addicted to the hot bats that if they were banned, the short term result might be that more would stop playing than start. But long term I can see many men returning who were never sluggers, but were excellent infielders, fast runners, smart players. Those are the ones whose skills are not valued as much as in the past when home runs were a rarity and even hitting a ball through the hole was not a sure thing. Hot bats don't just benefit the long ball hitters, but those who can hit the gaps for zoom them through the infield. My great fear is that those skills are no longer valued in younger rec ball because of altered bats and we are already losing them to the sport.
Jan. 3, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Signs of Getting Old(er)

OZ40, I've hidden Easter eggs for others, and then can't find them until the garden leaves fall in the autumn. Plastic eggs with candy in them? Still good after 6 months (hard to destroy jelly beans). Real eggs? Forget it.
Jan. 3, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Pitcher safety screens.

Enviro-Vac, I am more focussed on composite bats rather than metal bats. You're right. I have been using a metal bat since the late 80s, and most double walls were hotter than the old single wall aluminums. I'm not sure that the ball used in 2000 was that much better. Certainly in league play, where most of the parks can no longer contain the power of the hot composite bats, the rec department supervisors have gone to a softer, dumbed down ball to try to keep the ball in the park, and other than senior leagues, have banned composites. Because of composites, they are banned in some communities, even for seniors. And for younger players, because of the prevalence of altered bats, our local rec department still worries about other park users and vehicles being plunked by the long ball.

As to more senior tournaments, I'm not sure. Calendar has been full for many years. More teams playing? Maybe. Don't know about other communities, but reports from Texas, for example, show a decline, as noted by increased field availability. But my point is that the dramatic increase in older men in good health (ever hear of the baby boomer population now aging?) should have resulted in a 36% increase in players, teams, etc.! U.S. Census data shows 25,516,000 men 55 to 84 in 2002 and 34,680,000 in 2012. Remember, these now older guys were part of the generation that made softball the most popular amateur sport back in the 70s and 80s. Most of them played on a team—rec league, company, church, co-ed, Club, tournament, etc. They enjoyed the sport. And where are they now?

One large example is northern California which has had a sound oversight group in Northern California Senior Softball Association. California is known for attracting population and retirees because of the great weather. The number of teams registered in NCSSA is 106 teams in 2014. That number is a bit inflated because players can be on more than one roster so there aren't as many players as 106 teams would indicate.

This number has not significantly changed over the last 10 years! There were more than 100 teams a decade ago! When you could only be on one roster. Why didn't we have 136 teams in 2014. Where are the new guys entering eligibility for senior softball? Not playing. Why not? I believe they have soured on the sport because it has become a sluggers game, and many of those sluggers are only doing it with hot bats, not improved technique. The game is no longer balanced as it was in the 80s when defense, base-running, and strategy were more honored. Guys I played with back then, who have dropped out, often cite the changed environment as the reason for their lack of interest in playing.
Jan. 2, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: Players looking to join a team
Discussion: Looking to join a team in northern nevada 50 and up

WRSF, Golden Eagle at Sparks has some of the best facilities in the country. I would start hanging out there and look to join a team. There are certainly teams already from the Reno/Sparks area that are playing senior softball. Once you meet a few older guys you will quickly find out about local batting/hitting practices, local senior leagues (not necessarily at Golden Eagle), etc. If you feel you are ready to contribute to a team now or near future, it helps to know your age in 2015 and where you live.
Jan. 2, 2015
Omar Khayyam
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: We are Ready!!!

Dolfan, I love your attitude. So much more encouraging than guys who complain about being rerated and moved up. I, too, love playing the game but God did not bless me with a body that anyone will ever want to play Major Plus for them! Happy New Year to all guys who are looking forward to another season of senior softball. It will keep us all younger than our peers.
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