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| Dec. 18, 2019 chico senior | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: 1 and 1 curiosity I attended the NCSSA annual meeting last year. When given the opportunity I brought up the fact that SSUSA had started using the 1 and 1 count for 40 though 60 age groups. They had done extensive studies and found that it saved time meaning that there were far more 7 inning games. I felt NCSSA should also adopt the 1 and 1 count. It was shot down within minutes by the board. Their reasoning was that there was no proof that it saved time. They had done no research and were simply going on gut feelings. Anyone who says that it doesn’t save time doesn’t know what they are talking about. Here is what I think happens with the NCSSA. They are led by a board that is mostly made up of guys over 70 years of age. Many of them at the time played on the same SSUSA 70 Major Plus team. I have played that team many times and they do things that intentionally shorten the game. Many times they are spotted runs to begin with so if the game is shorter the teams they are playing has less innings to make up the spotted runs. They want the game to only go 6 or even 5 innings. They will never admit that but iI have talked with some of them and know it to be true. The NCSSA board is led by 1 or 2 very vocal players. The players are in the Hall Of Fame so many are influenced by these few individuals. That’s too bad as I love playing NCSSA events and will continue to do so. |
| Nov. 27, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: 65s to 1-1 or not 1-1 GI - You either have some misprints or some mistakes. The 60’s start with a 1 and 1 count. As far as the older divisions it has not been agreed to yet. I’m sure it will come up at this years meeting. They have slowly been adding age groups to the 1 and 1 count. Maybe this year the 65’s will be added. |
| Nov. 22, 2019 chico senior | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: results Back in the late 70’s our team ( Ridgemen of Paradise)won the California State A 2 years in a row. We all swung 36 or 38 ounce Bombats. Now I’m thinking of going to a 25 ounce bat. Times change! One of the few weekends we were not playing myself and a teammate were asked to do to Elk Grove and play with the Washoe Merchants out of Reno. The ASA tournament had 4 Major teams and 8 A teams. We lucked out and won our first game and got to play Cambell’s Carpet. They were like todays Timberworks X 2!!! They must of had 8 guys about 6’6” and about 280 pounds of muscle. I believe they were also sponsored by Bombat. We were nickel and diming them to death. The guys we were playing with had never even heard of the team we were playing. We told them to not rile them up. About that time we had a guy head first into 2nd , jump up and start yelling to shove it up their a__. We had them down something like 17- 12 in the fourth inning when this happened. The next inning they came up and hit 17 consecutive homers. We gave them the best game of the tournament and lost like 39 - 19. They made those 38 ounce bats look like toothpicks! They were the best team in the country for years. |
| Nov. 13, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Rule Interpretation Tom Bussey - What would you do in the situation described? |
| Nov. 12, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Rule Interpretation I’m not even sure where you start with this umpire screw up. This is one of those situations that come up that you’re only going to make 50% of the people happy. I feel that even though it was the wrong call on the infield fly you should still call the batter out. It is not fair to let the double play stand because of the umpires mistake. As far as the runner who was on first base to begin with I think the fair thing would be to put him back on first. Again, 50% of the people are going to be pissed off. Maybe they just use rock, paper, scissors to solve the problem. Can you even imagine how long this situation took to straighten out? |
| Nov. 12, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Rule Interpretation Swing - I’m not sure why you say everyone on base should know it is an infield fly. It was not an infield fly rule play. Runners on first and third is not an infield fly situation. This is a situation that used to be found in an umpires “case” book which were screwy plays that might happen once every 50 years. The play was botched in many ways by the umpire. |
| Oct. 19, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Use one up for home runs this year Our team for the most part plays NCSSA tournaments. They use the one up rule and personally I feel it is the one rule that I like that is better then SSUSA home rune rules. By the way, when we hit that extra home run it is a dead ball walk, not an out. SSUSA tournaments for the most part group teams by age and ability. For example everyone is a 65 AAA and they all are supposed to be of equal ability so whatever you want to use for a home run rule is fine with me (even though our team hit like 3 HRS all year). In NCSSA tournaments your bracket might be made up of mixed ages and abilities. If you are a 65 team playing against a 55 team it is nice to not get home runned to death. I know that I have talked with lots of guys playing in NCSSA tournaments and they prefer the one up rule. Also, Tim, I don’t see any evidence to support your assertions that “it is a team / player that is able to compete at a higher level, but for whatever reason does not” that supports the one up rule. Just my 2 cents worth. |
| Sept. 26, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Make the Call What it the heck does that mean? |
| Sept. 18, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Session 3 Jeez Dave! Only 600 teams at 9 different complexes on 33 different fields where there are time restrictions, field restrictions due to size, etc. Quit your crying! It sounds like Still Got Wheels feels he can do the job better then you. I say give him the job. I bet you don’t spend hardly any time putting this together. Think about all the time you could spend with Fran. Oh wait - Fran says don’t give up your day job. I don’t know how you put up with clowns like this guy before every tournament. LMAO |
| Sept. 15, 2019 chico senior | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Rule question Mannjo - You might want to look up the rule for whatever organizations rules you are playing under. SSUSA, NCSSA, and SPA all have slightly different rules for when you can put in a CR. |
| Sept. 15, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Using a "no walks, strikes only" approach to shorten game time in a public league. Your comment to Nancy are interesting. You state you don’t want to lose the basics of the game but you want to use a no walks change to the rules. I would consider that a huge change to the basic rules of softball.. it’s too bad that your league doesn’t want to use the idea of starting with a 1-1 count as that speeds up the game. I still don’t get why your 9 inning games last up to 2 1/2 hours. |
| Sept. 12, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: Using a "no walks, strikes only" approach to shorten game time in a public league. Let me make sure I understand. You play a 9 inning game in 2-2.5 hours. Everyone in senior softball plays 7 inning games in aprox 1 hr 15 minutes. You want to do away with calling pitches balls with the idea this will speed up the game. What will happen is just the opposite. Pitchers knowing that they can’t walk anyone will throw nothing but 12-15 foot pitches that hit the back 2 inches of the mat. If they miss and pitch is called a ball no big deal. Just keep on heaving it up to the plate until they hit that part of the mat with no penalty for throwing balls. Very bad idea in my mind. |
| July 17, 2019 chico senior | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Courtesy runner A group of us were doing what we do best last night - having a beer after getting killed in our league game. This question came up: An illegal courtesy runner is on first base and no one notices the infraction. The batter then gets a single and the CR is now on second. The defensive team now realizes that the CR is illegal. Can they at this point call it to the umpires attention and what would be the call? |
| June 30, 2019 chico senior | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Rules Question I put the question out there to see if I could snag him and guess what? I had never before seen a runner jump up in the air in the baseline but I was 95% sure that it would he would be out. The other question is something you go over early when training to be an umpire. Wayne must have went to a different school then the rest of us. |
| June 19, 2019 chico senior | Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Rules Question Watching local senior game tonight. Runner on first was caught in run down between first and second. Baserunner was moving towards 2nd when 1st baseman threw ball towards 2nd. Baserunner did not raise his arms but rather jumped into the air and was hit by throw. He was in the baseline while doing this. What’s the call? Also, runner in same situation did not make any effort to get out of the way of the throw that would have completed a double play. Ball hits runner. What’s the call? |
| June 11, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What Calls Can Be Questioned and Reviewed by Tournament Director Wayne - You’re a real piece of work. This has nothing to do with someones opinion on a rule. This has nothing to do with having to have everything their way. What is has to do with is getting the call correct according to the rules. Why don’t you confer with all your so called experts on the subject and get back to us. I’d really like to hear from some of these so called experts - ex pro and college umpires - you keep referring to.They would not be working at those levels if what you claim they have told you regarding most of the things you have commented on over the last few months. They would be out of a job and be working their way back up the ladder starting with Little League. |
| June 11, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: What Calls Can Be Questioned and Reviewed by Tournament Director Wayne - You have my permission to continue your incorrect interpretation of SSUSA rules. I suggest you find new sources for help rather then your current sources. |
| June 10, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Rules of the game Discussion: You make the call Why bring uo interference? Nothing in the original question had anything to do with interference. Wayne, the umpire guru, strikes again! |
| June 10, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Vegas Worlds Didn’t I just say that? |
| June 10, 2019 chico senior | Topic: Tournaments Discussion: Vegas Worlds Click on tournaments at top of this page. Scroll down to bottom and past years will come up. Click on any past year. Click on 50’s and go to that page and see which fields they played on. The answer will probably be that they have moved around. |
