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Dec. 24, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Funniest Softball Stories

Made me laugh E4/E6...Guess I was counting on my 80 year old eyes and the bourbon to help make her look 45 again!

All the best...

Dec. 21, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Funniest Softball Stories

Did you guys see the post in the list of topics?

80+ team looking for player.....I swear, unbelievable.
At that age I wanna be holding a blonde, a bourbon, and a fishing pole. I'll set the blonde down once in a while if I get a bite, or was that the fishing pole I set done if I get a bite from the blonde. Either one works....



Dec. 21, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Seniors Manifesto

Thanks Capt Kirk for sharing....there's a lot of truth in there...
Dec. 19, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Funniest Softball Stories

Texas Transplant,
Now that was funny....heh, what can you say, you were focused..

Dec. 19, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Hitting

Wagon487,
It's all about getting the most out of time....Indoors we can hit the whole team with about 60 swings each in an hour......

Bullithead 69,
Wes recommendation of contacting Shelby was a good one....probably the best way to go
Dec. 18, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Hitting

Sanford, (just north of Orlando) has an indoor facility with a slow pitch machine. Hit-n-run.net I believe is the name.

Also plenty of open parks...
Dec. 17, 2012
southernson
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Spring Nats

After Montgomery there is this....

Dothan SPA Nationals
WhenApr 11 – 14, 2013


Dec. 13, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ratings

Mad Dog,

I think in your example the team that hit the fewest home runs is fresher. Look at your example....

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ok team a scores ,lets say 20 runs a game avg,with only 1 maybe 2 hrs..most likely there are errors by the defense in that mix also,with a bunch of running and expending effort on the base paths....now team b scores that same amount of runs with 10 hrs,no defense involved,less effort running the bases,so tell me who is fresher after 5 games,your gonna tell me this is the same..........
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Effort is mostly expended on defense....soooo, if I'm playing a team that hit 10 HR's, for half of their runs I had to play zero defense, I just turned my head...and only played defense for 10 of their runs, or even less.

But if I am playing defense, and they only hit 1 or 2 out, only got to turn my head one or two times. The other 18 or 19 runs I had to run, throw, run, throw......a lot of effort on defense.

Just a different slant....with the same example.


Dec. 12, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ratings

Taits,
Maybe I am off base run wise, so take a shot. I just thru something out there....

But HRs is not the measurement for equity, avg scored runs per game is closer to equity...

MD,
Yep, you are right, one team may expend more effort for 20 runs than another in that scenario.... But it's the same when you go by the numbers....a team that averages 20 runs per game is obviously doing that consistently, no matter how they get them. So two teams averaging 20 runs per game should be close to equal in run production...at least for a given game

MD....
So I'm off run wise??? Give me your breakdown with a number per division...open to opinions...
Dec. 12, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ratings

forgive the typos


Dec. 12, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ratings

dMON,

IMO 25 runs scored with 8 home runs is the same as 25 runs scored with 3 home runs.

If my team is also averaging 25 runs per game, then we should be competitive no matter how many home runs.

If we are averaging 15 runs per game, then if we play our average game, and the team averaging 25 runs per game plays there average game, then we should lose the majority of those constest.

Trying to use the HR limits is what has us in trouble with measurement of ratings. It's really the average # runs scored that's important.
Dec. 11, 2012
southernson
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Ratings

Capt Kirk,
I think you are on to something but it may be simpler than that...

Runs Scored
AA - Average <15 runs
AAA- Average 15-22 runs
Major - Average 22-28 runs
Major Plus - Average 28+ runs

Anyone unhappy about competing against a team that has the same range of Average Number Runs scored?




Dec. 11, 2012
southernson
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: AAA Home Run Outs

Jawood, thanks for some common sense, this is an improved approach>> "One-up is fair for everybody!".

It just seems to me there is a mathematical framework for measuring teams that could be applied, as using HR's for that measurement is not valid. As someone alluded previously, 30 runs is 30 runs no matter how many HRs.

It's easier to use the HRs versus recording data for historical reference. And therein lies the rub...






Dec. 10, 2012
southernson
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: AAA Home Run Outs

Chico,
You are in a hot area as well, California, I agree. You had some good points in your last email, duly noted.

It's not an easy problem for SSUSA, and I respect that. I just think the 3 HRs is way to low.

But the solution is not having a AAA team move to major, get their a$$ handed to them for 3 years until the pick up enough Major Players to compete. That's an expensive solution...

I'm done on this one, swimming against the tide...thanks.


Dec. 10, 2012
southernson
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: AAA Home Run Outs

Chico,
Not kidding here at all, we're not in BFE Nowhere USA, we're in Florida. They usually average 3-4 HRs....AND YOU CAN'T COMPETE day in and day out at a Major level with 3-4 HRs. We've taken the root problem which is the Major/Major Plus arena and tried to push it with a solution that has the wrong target of AAA. Getting AAA teams to move to Major will not have the Domino effect of having enough Major teams move to Major Plus to help that divisions problems. The problem isn't in AAA, and it's impractical to try and create a solution there.

I was at a tournament this weekend, and it was all the buzz in the AAA teams that were playing. It may have the unintended effect of shifting some tournament options to be SPA instead.

Again, just my opinion.

Dec. 10, 2012
southernson
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: AAA Home Run Outs

Yesterday lost to a good AAA team 34-24, and they hit 11 out. They had a Major type day, but they are like us, a consistent AAA team that blows up once in a while.

Not a Major team that consistently hits with power, then has an off AAA day.

There's a big difference IMO. 3 and out is nuts....

Solve the problem in the division where there was a problem....and it wasn't AAA.
Dec. 6, 2012
southernson
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Grading the Rule Changes

Wood,
You made me laugh out loud in the office, I'm wiping the tears now. "Being paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't coming after you", funny and so true. Thanks, I needed that.


Dec. 6, 2012
southernson
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Grading the Rule Changes

And that's what I like about this board....
Wood & DMON,
You do make some good and valid points, and I understand the perspective....it did make me think.

I'm just saying overall the framework doesn't encourage keeping a team together and upward mobility. If a team's goal is to win, then at some point, you are going to win enough games and be moved to a higher division. Oh, no, just keep the same guys, rename the team, and stay in AAA. And so the framework cater's to the status quo folks, and you are right, it's just like our current society...which at it's core is failing.

Wonder why we all go to "National" tournaments and there are only 5 teams in a bracket, where there were 100 teams in 4 hour driving distance. We shouldn't wonder at all....

Trying to win has been replaced by being comfortably status quo...to me that's sad...goodbye America, I once knew ya...I guess it won't be long before we'll be paying our tournament entry fees in yen....
Dec. 5, 2012
southernson
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Grading the Rule Changes

Guys,
IMHO the idea is to grow and improve a team over time. If you are a AA team, the idea is add talent, grow, and improve to AAA. And if you are AAA, the idea is to add talent, grow, and improve to Major, and so on.

The goal is NOT TO:
->Avoid adding players that may improve the teams's overall ability so as to stay in your current ranking
->Have governance in HR's such that it impairs your ability to attract new talent, grow and improve your team to a higher ranking
->NOT to BREAK UP or RENAME a team just to stay in your current ranking as a AA, AAA, or Major team
->Not to have all the Power Hitters go to a Major or Major+ team as a new player in Senior Softball thereby forever keeping the AA and AAA teams weaker, but to be able to attract some of them into being a part of growing the whole team and it's ranking as AAA, Major, or more

The HR rule of 3 and then outs does all of the above. It encourages teams to sandbag to stay at a lower level, it encourages the Power Hitters to continue to enter at only the top levels, and it encourages the deceit of teams remaining with the same players and same level yet under a different team name.

It's not like an AAA team gets 5 new HR hitters all at once, it takes years to achieve that.

W-L records and winning tournament championships determine upward team mobility fairly, and the rules prevent AA, AAA, and Major teams from loading up with Higher Level players yet remaining ranked lower.

Most teams take multi-years to grow from one level to another via winning a National. Why penalize them in the process.....
Dec. 5, 2012
southernson
Topic: Teams looking for players
Discussion: 2013 AAA Florida Team Looking for Players

Always looking to improve our team and 2013 is upon us. Established now in our 6th year. We typically play most all the Florida Half Century tournaments where we are ranked as an A level team in the top 10 out of 80 50+ teams and also play about 4-5 other tournaments like National level tournaments as well. Already qualified for the Tournament of Champions in February. Won two Nationals in 2012. Good attitude and positive character is always welcome.

Looking to add an outfielder(s), infielder or pitcher, and an additional HR Hitter to our group. Please contact HLLAMF@gmail.com, Rick Sapp, Florida Classics. 904-328-4173. Thanks...





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