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March 18, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS Marine, As far as a 50 + guy hitting a 50 core ball out of the none wind/altitude aided 300 foot park with an 80s era bat? There probably are some guys that could do it but.....it would probably be just like players that could hit a softball 400 feet during that era? Very few... That's the BS I call on Swing....his thinking many players were pushing four hundred feet before the double wall era is....delusional. Especially during the 80s.
March 17, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS Swing....this originated when you said composites today are no different then aluminum and rock hard balls. I said in the single wall days there were a couple hands full of players that could hit a softball 400 feet. You called bs and I then went through a long list of when, where games that proved you wrong. I talked about '88 when my best homeruns went 330...you said bs. Now.....I give you the option of ttying to prove me wrong and you jump to not using my bats. I still have many of my bats from 81-early 90s.... What are you scared of? Being proven to not sniff a three hundred foot fence with my single wall technology? That's nothing to fear....many players couldn't reach the fence in those days...you'd just be one of the many...and yes....I will propane fail right next to you....we are old. So once again.....swinging my bats...bring whatever balls you want
March 15, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS Interesting.....no answer on the Swing challenge..... Point made!!!!
March 14, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS Swing, I don't understand the crs thing but......I do know some form of restricted flight balls were used in every league (concord and walnut creek) and upper level tourney (major/a till 88 and AA ) I played in from the early 80s till the late 90s. Except when we played at the Smoky or Major World Series on baseball fields. I have some new balls from 91... They are Dudley rocks given to us for free when Dudley sponsored us that season....they are still new because we tried to hit them in BP and the dented bats. So I stored them away. Now......I am sure these were the hottest balls Dudley made in 91.....if your up for actually seeing how you do hitting these balls I will bring out the bats I used as gamers or bats from 81, 82, 84, 85, 86, early 90s, mid 90s....some how....I doubt you will hit very many/if any balls out of concord field one.....and without a doubt know you will not sniff the fence with most of them....and will be lucky if you do clear the fence to reach 325.....400 for you is delusional. Are you up for it some time? It could be a teachable moment.
March 14, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS Sorry I don't have any experience with those 50 cores the lower levels were hitting. Did you guys get to hit the girls 11 inch ball also?
March 14, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS Sorry Rich. I have never said I would always play at a technological disadvantage because of my not wanting composite bats in softball. I have said...the game is safer and better with aluminum, and I would support anyone at any time trying to play an aluminum game over this composite stuff. As the games currently set...I will continue to swing my UTRIP bats in senior ball most of the time and then use senior bats on the other occasions
March 14, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: New Miken 2 piece End Load (supermax) Ju, my points/numbers were nothing more then sharing information. And your right....under the conditions we were swinging in....no senior bat should have lasted. I know I'd love a bat that compares to the senior bats and doesn't break in less then a thousand swings....even in cold weather with rock hard balls. I think one of the problems with seniors and composite is the manufacturers have not been able to give the powerful hitters something better then the kids bat but more durable then the combats and Mikens I have used that don't last 100 swings even if it's 80 degrees. If......the H&B senior bats that make it to market are comparable to the ones I have been testing......things will be changing. I had the first genesis on the west coast.....it lasted around 50 swings.....or.....put another way.....maybe 25 less then a new ultra. My last Combat/yellow didn't make it to 85 cuts....my last ultra lasted about the same...I had a friend buy a red ultra at worlds three years ago....two of us shared it/it lasted four games/but it did break during a night game in phx. Ju, I like you have had kids composites last forever....I have broke a few genesis bats, my original synergy and.....that's it. I sold my oh freak after five years....still have three synergy +s and a blue Worth.....all have thousands of swings on them.
March 14, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: New Miken 2 piece End Load (supermax) TPS..now called Louisville Slugger already has a senior bat that has passed the BFF test. It outperformed all the other senior bats we had during testing in exit ball speed...plus....the one I used had 780 swings on it when I gave it back for evaluation... Of those swings...over 600 (530 of them by me) were done using the stadium high core/compression balls in 50 degree weather...these balls were old bp balls....the bat was producing exit ball speeds that averaged 103 mph with the top speed of 110mph Last weekend we again went out to test the senior Louisville...on a baseball field 335 down the line...365 left center...395 straight away... many balls were leaving the park....around ten guys shared swinging four bats for six hours....four of the players were or currently are USSSA major/elite list players....70 degrees....all stadium balls.....maybe 3,000 swings.....no bats broke.....
March 14, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS I don't know anything about the Monsta bat. Just having a little fun with how staff closed a thread because when it turned towards talking about GSC it......"was not fair to the (Monsta) owners. Now.....if you want info on the new H&B senior bat in the works.....I can help you out.
March 13, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Tim M I don't ski...so we usually let friends spend most of the weekends at the cabin. We might spend three weekends up there during snow season. The west shore of Tahoe is better suited for Homewood, Alpine, Squaw and Northatar skiing. At emerald bay on highway 89 the road gets closed often and it's a loooooong drive around the lake to Heavenly. Summer time is my Tahoe time....and...as they say....West shore is the best shore. Old Tahoe lifestyle without the new Tahoe traffic.
March 13, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Gods Sports Company FACTS Monsta, Monsta, Monsta bats..... Ssusa staff should probably close this thread...its not fair to the GSC owners now that another bat has been mentioned in their "add";-) I get confuses easily....
March 13, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Bat/ball combos of yesteryear Mike, Kim Seasem's ball off Waverly wall? to dead right/not rightcenter was one of the most expressive balls hit that weekend. I don't think it was 385 to the fence/maybe 330...that fence was 60 feet tall because it it was short for a minor league field because of the roadway behind it. Our elimination game at the 89 AA was against Budweiser from California. We were ahead 7-3 going into the bottom of the last inning....it started raining/more like a down pour...Our Pitcher walked five guys.
March 12, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Bat/ball combos of yesteryear Thanks for the nice words Troy. As far as the old aluminum days.... Here are some examples... 1987 Steeles team (arguable best softball team ever assembled) comes to Concord... We play them...field one willow pass park. They supplied the balls (the hardest rocks I ever hit)...on a 300 foot fence we lose 13-12 in extra innings. 1988 Steeles barnstorms NorCal again......this time the game is at city park in Burlingame...baseball field...around 335 down the lines...one home run is hit by Andy Alvis from NorCal.... in the entire game. 1989....first AA World ever played. It's on a baseball field in cocoa Florida....temp fences at 325.....our team comes in fourth....five games played...home run leader on our team....four home runs. Our elimination game score 8-7 1991 AA world....San Clemente ca 300 foot field....our team goes undefeated 5-0...championship game score 13-11.... Semi final game score 7-2....both games played with win blowing in from right field....four home runs hit in two game...one each by Gary Robertson/left hander to right field, Rich Courtney, Dave Feather and Jeff Peterson/left hander to 1991 Major World Series.....baseball field ...Daytona beach? We come in fourth....temp fences at 350/left center to right center, 325 down the lines...we lose our final game to Riches Superior (arguable the other best team ever assembled) final score 12-11? Two home runs hit in the game 1991 ASA Super...our team plays Riches superior....little rock ak...baseball field....temp fence left center to right center...330...... We win....10-7? One home run hit in game...our player Dave Feather 1992 Major World Series....Florida...baseball field, no temp fence....if I remember correctly one left handed player hit more then one home run over the weekend/Jeff Peterson...he turned down playing for Steeles and Bell Corp after the tourney... I could go on with more examples but....I think I have more then proven my point with actual game examples.....now maybe Swing and all those others that proclaim 400 foot power were over looked by those big money major teams....but as I have said.....in my experience there were only a couple handful of elites each season that from 1980 till the early/mid 90s were capable of hitting a softball 400 feet without wind/high elevation...
March 10, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Bat/ball combos of yesteryear Usmc..... I have never been a big shot in softball... I was a below average all around player that happened to be able to spin balls 20 feet over the fence. If you get together and you don't want to shoot for the $200 there is I fee. In all honesty....I do not believe there is a senior capable of hitting a ball out of 300 with my early 80s bats.
March 10, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Bat/ball combos of yesteryear USMC, unless the air prices for St Louis come down some, we will probably be in Vegas. I will bring the "player" bat given to me buy Al White that was traveling back easy to play major ball. It's a red worth, concentrated barrel,35 ounces.....which I swung most of the time from 81-84? If you active.....I'll give you a 50% discount....if your retired...$25
March 9, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Bat/ball combos of yesteryear Hey Marine, are you playing out west this year? If your going to be at the western nationals in NorCal...I will be glad to bring out my bats
March 8, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Senior Softball Poem In 83 i think???? the top bats were the Howard's western steer and the Black Worth Thumper, or gold/red worth thumpers. I have a brand new Black thumper, and my old gold and red Thumpers..... If any senior wants to prove they can hit a softball out of a three hundred foot fence (without any wind/altitude) with these bats...... I'll go so far as to say ill give $200 to the guy that does it. Contest entry is....$25 Now I am not privy to all the great seniors playing but.....I will bring these bats to any NorCal event and let You use them to prove its not the bats.... I even have some Dudley balls given to us in 92 that were so hard we never used them in BP because they would dent our bats.
March 8, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Senior Softball Poem I guess we are talking different eras. I remember many years where TC fields four, five, and seven were almost impossible to hit balls out of with the normal Sunnyvale winds. I also remember field one at Willow Pass in Concord having a parking lot beyond 60 feet of grass behind the left field fence. NOT ONCE did I ever see a ball reach the asphalt. As to your ball thing......that's the proof we are talking different times..... During all the 80s and almost half of the 90s I never heard of any ball having anything other then a core (coaficent of reflected energy???) stamped on it.... I know this to be true because I remember how mad Donny D got when UTRIP tried restricting the ball core even more and the ball companies gave him a lower core but....bumped up the compression and actually made the balls harder. Your comp/core numbers are proof your talking about an aluminum bat era after Ray invented his double wall. We were not playing in the same tourneys back then but.....trust me on this....AA/Major tourneys used restricted flight balls back then. It's the lower level players that cried for the hot balls and were coddled with them. I don't remember the year After Shock won the A World/maybe '99 but.....that season the A teams got wind Donny/USSSA was going to be using the major/AA ball at the A Worlds in Sterling Heights...the A teams got together and forced Donny to guarantee they would be allowed to use the high core rock hard balls instead. And....my hand speed is not what it used to be...the proof is....I have some of those old bats still...tested them on the field and I hit a ball around 290 feet with them.... What's 290 compared to 335 feet? 15% less?
March 8, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: Bats Discussion: Talk regarding illegal bats Ollie, I have heard of one senior that has said he has shaved a senior bat. The player is of no, or vey little talent and its said the bat broke in less then z25 swings. I would think with the built in durability issues with senior bats that inferior guys that need to shave bats don't do it very long because of the HIGH price of replacement. Now....on the other hand.....i believe rolling or breaking in a senior bat by other then regular play is happening a lot. That's the only good thing about these senior bats.....it eliminates the cheater bat advantage.
March 7, 2013 Tim Millette	Topic: General and miscellaneous Discussion: Senior Softball Poem Al33.... I cannot understand your statement on the bat issue... I can oh speak for myself in this experience....in 87 I was put on the major players list....I could hit a ball 335 tops.... Now......25 years later I can hit a ball 425+ with a senior bat.... What's that....35% farther while I am pushing 55, with a bad back, not being in a gym for 20 years/probably 70% as strong as before, taking BP around ten times a year when I used to hit five days a week. Your statement sounds like another senior trying to validate these bats as not being crazy. Are you really saying you believe today's senior bat ball combo is the same as aluminum and lower level rocks of the 80s/early 90s?

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