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Real name:
Mike Kelly

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Fairfield, CA

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Men's 50

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Aug. 2, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

smooth01
Your right and i did base my team out of Nevada this year so that i would have a bigger area to draw from. I am not sure if you knew that it is not just saying that i am based from Nevada but my team has to have the majority of players also come from Nevada before it is a legal roster. This means i had to let some players from California go that i would have rather kept on the team as well.
If they would just say to pick a state and start the process from there it would have worked for the specialty tank team that was forced out of the NSA event last weekend for not having the majority of players from Ga. and being forced to then be based out of Florida which left them without enough legal and out of the event.
These rules are not needed for major plus in my opinion but i will abide by them until they are changed.
thanks
Mike Kelly
Kelly's Sports/Worth
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds part deux

BruceinGa

Don got the wrong story. We played and won the Western NSA Worlds back in june and i followed the NSA rules 100%. I had to trim Ca. players to make the Majority from Nevada and used my 1 exemption player that i had coming.

Your original story rang more true then this one. Sounds like there still might be some confusion amongst your guys involved.

Your sponsor responded to me on the old scout by saying what you had originally said as well.

Sorry that you guys had to go through this and look forward to playing you and your big boy team in viva las vegas late september.

Mike Kelly
Kelly's Sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds part deux

BruceinGa

Don got the wrong story. We played and won the Western NSA Worlds back in june and i followed the NSA rules 100%. I had to trim Ca. players to make the Majority from Nevada and used my 1 exemption player that i had coming.

Your original story rang more true then this one. Sounds like there still might be some confusion amongst your guys involved.

Your sponsor responded to me on the old scout by saying what you had originally said as well.

Sorry that you guys had to go through this and look forward to playing you and your big boy team in viva las vegas late september.

Mike Kelly
Kelly's Sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

mad dog

Thanks for the support and your sure right about the overall lack of 50 major plus teams
but
it can all change if organazations like NSA and ASA follow the USSSA lead and get away from these other senior softball organazations who are involved in this senior summitt and follow there own patterns that they have used in adult ball and let it carry over into senior ball.
That would mean no residency requiremenys at all.

USSSA is right there now and this coming weekend would have had a great draw if they had not been blindsided by ruth and hennesey putting the ISA on the USSSA established weekend. Sounds like a cutthoart move to me that is not good for senior softball at all. All this sleaze move by them accomplished was sending some teams to mo. and making it even worse for us.
thanks ruth and hennesey.
ps i see ruth actually had to send his 60 team to salem for the usssa , why is that ?? because the other 60 teams knew right from wrong and decided to go to the usssa whos event has been the same weekend for the last 7 years and they decided not to go to the ISA in mo.
I ask once again how this was good for senior softball????
there are 3 open weekends in august and they picked this established weekend?? Small wonder USSSA droped out of the senior summitt group.
mike kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus

July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

gary19

yes this is about me and the entire major plus division in which i have invested 5 years now and a division that has grown in the past year because of less restrictions being implemented this year compared to past years..

thanks

mike kelly

kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

Lecak

Being a sponsor of a major plus team is both quite expensive and a lot of hard work. there are some great teams out there that we play agaisnt and look forward to each and every game with them. if there was more sponsors then yes there would be more teams otherwise individuals with leadership normally step up and build a team from local talent. it has to worth my investment to continue on in senior softball and 2 to 4 teams events really is not worth it so i am trying to come up ideas to build the divison into more teams. i am not trying to belittle ot insult anyone and i am only speaking for the growth of the major plus division.

saddest thing is that there are some major plus players with no one to play with. if there was no restrictions on them then they could find a team and or form a team simply by putting it on this message board.

i have seen plenty of players including major plus get picked up off of this board but only by teams in there region.

how about a team for the east coast needing a major plus player and a guy from vegas getting the call right from this board.

how about an east coast major plus player needing a team and gets picked up by a west coast team right off of this board.

this could be the major plus unemployment board if the regions was open and then we would have more teams to play agaisnt and that is the bottom line.

thanks
mike kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

cpope

you know this becuase you have been there and done that and felt how hard it is for major plus teams to exist and survife giving all the restrictions placed upon them.

Gary19 this is expierence talking here from charlie pope.

The majoe plus division in order to grow needs less restrictions then all the rest because there are way less of us to begin with.

thanks charlie pope

mike kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus


July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

gary19

Bingo and that is 1 of the possible soloutions.

While these senior softball people talk about how many senior players are in ca. and fl. they can never tell you how many are of major plus caliber becuase they honestly have no idea at all. do you?????

There are way less major plus players in the us compared to any other division.

there are 10 to 1 more major players then major plus players

30 to 1 more AAA players
50 to 1 more AA players

compared to major plus players

so mine is a simple question

why restrict us at all when the supply of players is so small to begin with

open it up and there would be more teams to play agaisnt and no body would ever have to forfiet becuase they had a player living in the wrong state???

thanks
mike kelly
kellys sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

CAT
I do agree with you and hope that NSA will consult with players and team managers in the future on what might make for a better event by going to those who know there own needs bette rhen anyone else.
have a good one.
mike kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

gary19

it is not just about you and i.

it is about ALL involved.

Tennesee gets 10 states to choose from and in the heart of big time ball = the south.

the state of washington gets 2 states to pick from.

don't you see that this is not quite right???

please look at a map of the us to get the whole picture.

thanks

Mike Kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

Gary19

You simply dont get it and i have tried the best i can to explain it to you in your first year of senior softball compared to my 5th year in senior softball but i guess you know best.
it is about being treated the same. desrimination starts with one person being treated differently then another person.
i have fought the tough fight to get ca. and fl. open to begin with and there are still other obstacles in the way that is making it difficult for us teams to deal with at the ball park.
unlike you i do feel sympathy for the specialty tank/worth team who got hosed this past weekend and if i was there i would have went out of my play to make sure they got a chance to compete.
have a nice day
mike kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

gary19 in response to mk39 saying Mike, there are always going to be inequalities no matter how you do it.

Not at all.

If you want to make new rules that none of us ever played with in adult ball then make it the same for all.

The only way rules can work is when they are the same rule for all involved.

dont tell me that i can only draw from 3 states while the other guy can draw from 7.

what you also did not take into consideration is that ca. now produces 4 teams in the 50 major plus division so while we started with the most high level players there is way less left to choose from in the end.

ya know what i mean

thanks
mike kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus
July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

Gary19 asked mk39 Mike Kelly, just a quick question. Why is that a "stupid rule"?

Hi Gary19 and thanks for asking this question.

ANY state with water to there backs will not recive the same amount of states to draw from compared to states surrounded by landmass.

using the ssusa chart from there magazine shows that a state like colorado can draw from up to 7 to 8 states while a state like ca. or fl can only draw from 3 to 4.

That my friend is unfair not to mention not well thought out to begin with..

i have mentioned this before to let the states with water to there backs to be allowed to move in 1 state and make that state the home state so that they could be surrounded by landmass but have gotten no where at all with this.

when i built this years team i had to let guys from ca. go who have played with me the last 2 years because of this very thing.

i have based this years team with majority of players from nevada to stretch my search for players who can help us at the major plus level.

too many rules and i have said all along to make less restrictions for the major plus division and let us play ball.

Thanks again for asking

mike kelly
kelly's sports/worth 50 major plus


July 31, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: NSA Worlds.......

Mike Walker:
While this happened with specialty tank/worth on friday in SC, the NSA A worlds had a similar occurence the same weekend with a team called Jeane Shoppe who was found to have an illegal player as well in the middle of there 1st game. They were given a forfiet loss for that game, and allowed to continue on in the losers bracket without him and went on to win the event??? question is why were they allowed to continue while specialy tank/worth was not given the same options???
50 major plus team specialty tank/worth was removed from the event after 1 game completed.
NSA senior ball only allows players from states and bordering states and 1 exemption player. The state with the majority of players is your home state or the state your based out of and that is your point of origin in regards to the states and bordering states. specialty tank registered out of Georgia but had at the park more players from Florida then from Georgia.
NSA ruled that the home state was Florida not Georgia and that made some other players illegal whose state touch Georgia but did not touch Florida.
A stupid rule and one that needs to be changed for sure but a rule that was enforced by what NSA rules say.
Question here is HOW did jeane shoppe get away with doing the same thing with an illegal player and continue on in the tournament at all??????
specialty tank/worth might have a case of discrimination now against NSA.
Based on that all the teams at the NSA A world have a case against NSA as well.
Question is why Jeane shoppe got special treatment while this 50 year old team got hosed. The 1 game that they played was only a seeding or pool game which did not even count in the standings. They should have been given the chance to see if they could have eliminated some players to end up with a legal roster and then be allowed to continue in the tournament.
IMO
Mike Kelly
Kelly's Sports 50 Major Plus
July 22, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SSWS has Catherdral City Big League Dreams Park

We played there with skip and the boys back in 1998 and i can still see it like it was last week. We were a 45 team playing against 35 year old teams who beat us up pretty good and it was the first time i played agaisnt the mavericks who were a 50 year team and who also beat us up pretty good and let me know that the 50's had some great teams that i would get to know better 4 years down the road. I can still see Greg Garrett launcing one while he was still healthy.
The park has incredible atmosphere and i have yet to find a nicer park. Of course Fenway with the green monster is my favorite being a right handed pull hitter with just enough pop to get it over the Green Monster wall in left field. You i remmember hit on the all fields including Yankee Stadium which i think was a little bit more then the 300ft signs said.
Here is a link to thebig league dreams web site which shows the fields and all the other goodies like batting cages, inside resteraunt, etc.
http://www.bigleaguedreams.com/
Looking forward to seeing you again Larry Lopez as it has been to long.
Mike Kelly
Kelly's Sports 50 Major Plus

July 21, 2006
MK39
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: SSWS has Catherdral City Big League Dreams Park

SSWS has the Cathredral City Big League Field of Dreams Complex for the Senior Softball World Series.
For those who have played in one of these beautiful parks , you already know what i am talking about and for those who have not, you are missing a softball Players Dreak Park.
The first session is September 16th - 19th in the 65 - 80 year bracket.
The 2nd session is the 50 - 60 age bracket on september 21st-24th.
Tournamnet Director is Vicky Oltean at 760-323-8272.
All entry forms and other documents can be found at http://www.nascs.org
This is a great Senior Softball event and we have been going to it the last 3 years. This event started in 1985 by the late great Ken Maas and will be his 2nd memorial event since his passing. Ken was a true pioneer of Senior Softball and his family is carring this event on in his memeory.
Hope to see you there.
Mike Kelly
Kelly\'s Sports 50 Major Plus
July 14, 2006
MK39
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Platooning is what we need

bashbro1

Try this one on for size. below is Websters definition for the word (TEAM). Read it slow and realize that nowhere in it does it ever say I OR ME. It always and only says WE like in a real Team of 20 guys who can share time and camaraderie and a winning attitude without feeling left out.
Please pay special attention to this one listed below (To harness or join together so as to form a team. ) Try to understand what it means to Harness and join together to form something special.


team ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tm)
n.
Sports & Games. A group on the same side, as in a game.
A group organized to work together: a team of engineers.

Two or more draft animals used to pull a vehicle or farm implement.
A vehicle along with the animal or animals harnessed to it.
A group of animals exhibited or performing together, as horses at an equestrian show.
A brood or flock.
Obsolete. Offspring; lineage.

v. teamed, team·ing, teams
v. tr.
To harness or join together so as to form a team.
To transport or haul with a draft team.

v. intr.
To form a team or an association. Often used with up.
To drive a team or truck

Try having a more open mind, we are in out twilight days now and it would not hurt to share with a fellow ball player a couple inning here and there. Senior players are having heart attacks playing softball???? Sometimes Quality is better then Quanity.

IMO


MK39, Mike Kelly Kelly's Sports/Worth 50 Major Plus team out of California.

July 14, 2006
MK39
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Platooning is what we need

I totaly support this concept for a couple of simple reasons.

1. It would increase the level of play if implemented correctly. Example AAA teams could give it a real shot at major and major teams could give it a real shot at major plus.

2. Let the guys who can hit it go ahead and hit it while letting the guys who can really go catch it, go ahead and catch it.

Guys like the author of this (Einstein) is no doubt the best defensive 2b, 3b or pitcher in the nation for senior softball while hitting 750% most weekends would be a 2 part player. He is so far ahead of most guys with this innovative idea that i doubt it will catch on but i believe the real problem to be that most players want to play untill they drop anyway regardless if it helps the team or not. Being an unselfish team player is the only way this concept would work.

IMO

MK39
July 14, 2006
MK39
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Wishing Mike Kelly the best after his surgery

DoubleL10:
Doctor confirmed Tuesday that i have a stage 1 cancer which is as good as it gets and that neither cheemo nor radiation is needed. They gave a 95% chance of surfival for 5 years which is again as good as it could have been.
I will look forward to seeing you again in palm springs as it has been awhile since i last saw you.
thanks for your concern.
MK39
July 14, 2006
MK39
Topic: General and miscellaneous
Discussion: Wishing Mike Kelly the best after his surgery

Thanks T-REX for your concern and support. I'll miss seeing you this year at the SSWS in palm springs. Your one of the good guys whom i have enjoyed the past few years.
Have a good one.
MK39
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