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Gary Sommers

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Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention

I am sure these new standard bats will be better than the previous ones, but I am only guessing they will stil be less than the senior bats out today.

Q, if you get a chance try the new indoor cages in Brecksville. Well, not new but remodeled. VERY well lit, and from what I have seen so far very accurate and consistent pitching.
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

Certainly not all, just the ones who would refuse to play without them. And there are some, including guys on here, who have said that.

I use the best bat I am comfortable with that is permissible in my leagues, but settle on one and don't chase the next big thing that promised to hit the ball 5' further. But I also would NEVER refuse to play in a league where senior bats are not allowed.

Played in an ASA league with my son this year, it was fun to have defense. Might play in a local senior league next year that controls bats to something roughly an ASA equivalent, from what I understand. Fine with me. I play to win, to have fair competition, I guess I believe in Herman Edwards. If both sides have the same bats or at least access to the same bats what those bats are or aren't is not really important to me. Let's just go out there an play to win. No homeruns in a win is MUCH better than however many homers or technologically hard hit balls in a loss.
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

No "rule". It is roughly the distance I am from home plate after I release the pitch and by the time the batter is making contact with it. That is why I said I can be 60' "when he strikes the ball".
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention

That's okay. There should still be more defense than with the senior bats, I would think.

Though I have heard they do ban even some ASA bats, though I could be wrong about that.
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention

Q, thanks for the heads-up! lol

Any idea how that will effect either Mayfield Village league?
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

CAPT, I respectfully disagree. It is all about the insecurity of old guys. The bats do nothing for competitiveness because both teams have them, so they are not providing anyone with a competitive advantage over their opponents who also use them. And God forbid that most (not all, but many) of these guys want to actually outwork their opponents or their own aging.

All the special bats provide is the ability to hit the ball further than most guys guys were hitting 30 years ago, and that feeds the egos of these guys.
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

pup, you look dumber with each lame attempt to look witty.

You are allowed to be 60' from the batter when he strikes the ball and you are waiting to field it. THAT is what is relevant to ball speed and pitcher defense, NOT where the rubber is located.
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention

You could often tell if the ump was a former, or perhaps even current, pitcher by how he called the game.
Nov. 18, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Tournaments
Discussion: Awards for championship teams

boston, perhaps the big tourneys but 3 and 4 team brackets (or sometimes smaller and needing to combine brackets) are not signs "Seniors are going to tourneys".
Nov. 17, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention

Omar, officially the ASA had unlimited arc at the national level in 1975 and 1976, the first two years I played. Good times if you knew how to throw it. A one-hitter, four strikeouts in one game, and 27 in a 26-game season. Without the benefit of foul balls counting as third strikes.
Nov. 17, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

0,

All of your lame sarcasm aside, when did I ever say I do?

I am sure they were, but so what? I don't try and field a COR or Compression, I have to field a round, 12-inch ball moving toward me at today's accelerated speeds off the special bats.

And no, the combination of yesteryear was different than today's senior combination. At least that is the observation of this pitcher who has stood 60 or so feet from the batter for the past 38 years.

And there were no special bats back then because the technology at that time would could not provide it. No more reason than that.
Nov. 17, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

Returning to yesterday's game might not be such a bad thing if it means getting rid of time limits, run limits, screens, bogus "courtesy" runners, time limits, and pitchers looking like hockey goalies.

I have no idea the COR or Compression, I just know from standing 60' from the plate watching balls coming at me they were, ON AVERAGE, not coming toward me as quickly as they do now with the special bats.

HJ, who was still swinging wood in 1982?
Nov. 17, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

Absolutely nothing snide about it at all. Studies in this case tell little of the story. The best, perhaps only, indicator of how the game is played is from those who actually play it, not just study it.

Hence, my question. Whether he plays or not is completely relevant.

NO one can be "just as dangerous" with an ASA bat as with a senior bat. That is just nonsense. Senior bats are much livelier, period. To say anyone can perform the same with either of them is silly. And to even hint that senior bats have nothing to do with this issue is folly. Common sense tells you that.

And I can tell you quite definitively that the first time I played with the senior bats after years of the ASA bats the difference in how quickly balls got to me was noticeable. Drastically noticeable. I don't need a study to tell me that, after 30 years on the field I know that with my own eyes. As does anyone else who has played the game and wants to be honest with themselves and with us.


Nov. 16, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

HJ, how many softball games has that professor played?
Nov. 16, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

HJ, you're welcome.

As far as the bats, while I realize USSSA bats are pretty hot I don't think on average they are as hot as the senior bats. So of course that has to make some difference.

But keep in mind those are not the only two choices. There are ASA bats, not as hot typically as either. Why not go to those when the others are too hot and hence dangerous? Because the guys who want to do now what many weren't in their 20s and 30s won't do it. Sad, but apparently very true. THAT is the reality.
Nov. 16, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OpenGate

Apparently. :)
Nov. 16, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: Update from USSSA National Convention

The same whining old guys if the special bats were taken away.
Nov. 16, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: OpenGate

Perhaps, but then replace it. That is not hard at all.

Such a shame what has happened to customer service these days....:(
Nov. 16, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

Sad to say, I might agree to the screen IF YOU ARE USING THE SPECIAL BATS.

But that is the rub. Why keep dumbing down the game to feed the insecurities of old guys?

neck, I got you!
Nov. 15, 2012
Gary19
Topic: Rules of the game
Discussion: pitching screens

"leauge ball its just like batting practice anyway"

Oh please. Unless you, and not just you neck but the others who have expressed this kind of attitude, play at least the second highest level of tournament ball this holier-than-thou attitude is just silly. Tourneys are no different than league, just a bunch of teams who pay their way to get in.
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