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| March 3, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | New Miken ASA Ultra Hello Everyone, My testing is now complete on the new Miken Ultra ASA bat. As you could pro ably tell by a few simple comments I posted earlier it was a good performer. Since I have now put it through it's paces many, many times I will further tell you it's a fantastic bat and well worth your consideration. Just as important I am awarding it the early season BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK AWARD... At a retail cost of under $200 it meets and a lot of times beats a lot of other ASA offerings in the $299 range. Without huge amounts of data let me tell you these simple highlights: 1. For an ASA bat it breaks in quite quickly compared to previous ASA MODELS. 2. you can expect awesome performance in as little as 50-100 swings which is very, very good for an ASA bat. 3. It continues to improve and reaches high levels of performance from about 150 swings onward. 4. Durability is excellent with still great performance at 800 plus swings by hard hitting players. 5. Weight/feel ; this is where Miken really excelled. The bat is not a heavily end weighted nor a balanced bat but.....guys that usually have a strong preference of either one still felt comfortable and got great results swinging the bat. (the bat is NOT offered as either a end weight or balanced version) So....the engineering of the bat is spot on with it's feel/performance/durability. 6. ASA bat performance standards changed resulting in companies having to modify previous versions and also having to consider the specs of an ASA BALL. Therefor, it required a certain amount of "tuning" of the bat to the ball being used in conjunction with it. Let me simply tell you this...Miken accomplished this spot on with this bat and did it at a lower price with a WARRANTY! At this point in the season of testing.... A great choice and value in your bat bag even for a highly durable bp bat to save your senior bat for games. As always if you have questions or need anything please get with me. Hit 'em Hard! Alan Tanner Www.team1sports.us |
| March 3, 2013 kbl Men's 60 480 posts | Tri18...i showed my son your post....he plays ASA and USSSA....the new Miken ASA can be used by the young guys in ASA, is that correct?thanks, ken |
| March 3, 2013 kbl Men's 60 480 posts | Tri18...my son just showed me the list from ASA on banned Miken bats.....the new Miken ASA bat isnt on the new list for 2013, isnt it?? thanks, ken |
| March 3, 2013 taits Men's 65 4001 posts | For 2013 Miken list 3 bats for ASA 1. Triad model STRIMA 2. Ultra " SOULTA 3. vicious " SPVSA ASA doesn't list models in a lot of the bat lists so you need to do your homework. |
| March 3, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | KBL, That is correct. It is approved for us and the kids for ASA. thanks for the info Mr. Taits! How goes it out on that coast? Alan Team1 |
| March 3, 2013 taits Men's 65 4001 posts | Been low-mid 60's cen cal, so cal it's upper 60's there. Cold early days all over & not conducive for using a good bat. Warming up to good ball weather though It say after this week. Supposed to rain Wed. |
| March 4, 2013 ju25 Men's 55 128 posts | Ultra ASA is good for ASA only, not legal in USSSA. I heard it was made for the 52/300 ball and lacks durability with 44/375. Good to see 800+ swings and still going strong. Some are saying the Triad is better. |
| March 4, 2013 taits Men's 65 4001 posts | JU25, It was primarily about ASA bats but I listed them all for Miken 2013 batch. Your correct about the sock 52 ball because ASA in particular has gone to its use for tourneys. I think a few others have as well started using it. But what ever, both teams are using it so its equal in that regard. Seems odd U-trip wouldn't allow a lessor bat, unless its about the money from stamps. |
| March 4, 2013 Garocket Men's 55 76 posts | The latest I heard it will not meet standards set by USSSA or NSA. a few points over. Not sure SSUSA will allow it or not I am sure they will |
| March 4, 2013 taits Men's 65 4001 posts | Garocket, "IT" which bat is that one? ASA has the lowest 'standard', BPF wise. |
| March 4, 2013 Garocket Men's 55 76 posts | The Ultra No way would Miken make a bat and not put all the stamps on it, if it would pass all the associations standards I am not a bat or ball specialist but I heard that with the dead ball ASA is using it will pass, but with the hard ball it would not pass |
| March 4, 2013 taits Men's 65 4001 posts | For Miken it could be wise because I doubt there is no way to really prove you were ONLY USING 52 cor balls should it break, if it's a warranty bat. I read that the other day that it was ONLY ASA on their site. |
| March 4, 2013 ju25 Men's 55 128 posts | ASA changed a couple things on their bat tests. 98mph batted ball speed remains the same, but they are now testing with the 52/300 ball, and they lowered the swing speed from 65 down to 60mph. In 2014 ASA will only use the 52/300 ball for sanctioned events, excluding senior ball, where the 44/375 will still be used. |
| March 4, 2013 HJ Men's 65 348 posts | TRi18, obvious question how did these bats do with the senior 44/375 balls? |
| March 5, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | HJ, Not really that obvious...you never know what happens with a new product using various testing options which is why the testing is a valuable tool....I did happen to use both types of balls with the bat. We got a slight (app. 10%) durability reduction utilizing 44/375 balls. Performance gains were again slight...less than 9% over the 52/300. The main difference in the balls...you can sometimes square up on a 44/375 and drive it for distance while hitting the 52/300 usually results in either a low spin or knuckleball line drive that doesn't carry quite as far. If you cut the underside of either ball they both carry well. AT18 Team 1 Sports |
| March 5, 2013 HJ Men's 65 348 posts | Thank you. I didn't mean the answer was obvious;I am not quite that naive. I meant it was obvious that seniors would want to know how the bat performed with the ball many of us use. |
| March 5, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | HJ, I know that just kidding a bit with you... AT18 |
| March 5, 2013 DCPete 208 posts | So how does this ASA Ultra compare to a good U-Trip bat in hitting 44/375 balls? |
| March 6, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | DC, I have not tested the new offerings in USSSA bats for 2013 as of yet. Maybe some players who have swung some of the new versions and the new ASA Miken could give us their take. If I was to compare them to 2012 USSSA bats, I would say it's not far removed when using the 44/375. Just a side note: from what i understand several of this years USSSA bats remain basically the same as last years while there are some new models being introduced... Alan Www.team1sports.us |
| March 6, 2013 5ToolsinOhio Men's 50 160 posts | ASA Miken Triad drops do do on the ASA Miken Ultra...Don't sniff the Wintercrest cream! |
| March 9, 2013 JMJIT Men's 60 27 posts | Hit the Combat Derby Boys it is HOTTTT,I am not a HR hitter i have hit 4 in 3 weeks,it is a Hot bat. |
| March 9, 2013 ju25 Men's 55 128 posts | JMJIT, Which Derby Boy were you hitting, USSSA(Yellow), ASA (orange), 275(red),or the old one(white). What were the temps, and what kind of ball were you hitting. |
| March 9, 2013 ju25 Men's 55 128 posts | I see it was the ASA version. What bat were you swinging before? |
| March 9, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | The Derby Boys is a good one but wait until you try Combats Wanted ASA version...more to follow up once testing is complete. FYI, this is the ASA ONLY version I am speaking of... Alan Team 1 Sports |
| March 11, 2013 neck10 416 posts | tri 18 will the new asa ultra pass the compression test????????? |
| March 11, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | Which one? It is legal in ASA but NOT USSSA if that is what you are referring to? Alan |
| April 25, 2013 Wayne 37 149 posts | From what I understand: ASA~bats more hot. USSSA~bats less hot. |
| April 25, 2013 Tri18 354 posts | Wayne, You understand correctly by and large. With the changing of the specs and the official ball (52/300) ASA gave smart engineers some ammunition to work with and sko far Miken has been the ones to do it right. The ASA Ultra 2 is one fine bat for the money and the Triad is also a grwa choice. I have a bunch of both out there with players and they are more than happy with performance. Durability has not been an issue thus far and they do both have a year warranty. If you need more info on the Mikens or any other bat you can reach me at 561-718-7504. Alan Tanner Team 1 Sports Tricoach18@att.net |
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