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| March 13, 2013 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | Gods Sports Company FACTS Friends and fellow players: My name is Ed Andrews. I am a senior ball player in the west. I currently play ball for the Desperados of New Mexico. Prior to this, I played ball for the High Desert Dukes, Arizona Rangers, Scrap Iron and Utah Vets. Many of you know me and have played with and against me over the years. You know that I play hard and I am a straight shooter. Softball is a passion and a therapy for me. Some of you know that I have been battling prostate cancer and I'm taking it on with all my intensity and have faith. You also know that I have been a rep with Reebok for 3 years and have done my best to help players in need. Last week, I played with the Florence Felons in the Bullhead City, AZ tournament. It was a lot of fun and we went undefeated to win our division. I had with me one of the Gods Sports Company prototypes that was given to me by Steve and Chip at the Wounded Warrior Project in Florida. I swung it a few times in Tucson at the Copper Classic but we got rained out and could not use it enough to determine much at that time. It has been too cold in Colorado to use so it has been dormant in my bag. Last week in Bullhead, I asked the umpires if it would be ok to swing it in some games so I could give the engineer in South Carolina some feedback. He agreed as long as the other teams agreed. I offered it to the other teams and they agreed to let me swing it. The bat was solid in every way. I hit 2 doubles and a single and took an outfielder to the warning track. Thought I'd burned him but he made a great catch. I am not a long ball hitter but a solid singles and doubles hitter. The Gods Sports Company bat is the real thing. There is no hype here like some of you still think. As I shared with some of you much earlier, I have visited the factory in South Carolina and met the young brilliant engineer. I have met Chip Kimmick, the CEO of Gods Sports Company and have had discussions with Steve McKinlay, the driving force behind this bat and as he says to me, "Ed, it's not about the bat. It's about God's Sports Company". Many of you have done business with me over the years. Not once have I duped a client or a customer and I shall not do so in the future. GSC will be out in the near future and it will be a bat that I will have in my bag. I use the Reebok Melee today but the P413 will also be in my hands later this year when I stand in the batters. Wishing each and every one of you good health and safe play on the ball fields. Ed Andrews Surf88 |
| March 13, 2013 cal50 Men's 50 328 posts | Hi Ed. I too have been to the factory, the owner/engineer sure is impressive. I spoke with Steve earlier this week and am also excited about how close the bat is to being ready. |
| March 13, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Monsta, Monsta, Monsta bats..... Ssusa staff should probably close this thread...its not fair to the GSC owners now that another bat has been mentioned in their "add";-) I get confuses easily.... |
| March 13, 2013 softball4b Men's 70 1248 posts | Any bat any company. Until I see it on the shelf with the Stamp then it is a non-issue. I know and have played on teams with Steve(GSC). He has asked me to hit the bat, but it has never worked out due to scheduling. Personally, I would love to see this bat on the shelf. If it performs, is cost effective, and is difficult to alter, it is good news for everyone. It will change the paradigm regarding senior bats. That said, until any bat is on the shelf and approved, it is a non issue. |
| March 13, 2013 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | Clarification: I swung the prototype at the Copper Classic at a private field in BP and did not use it at the SSUSA fields. It is a prototype and not yet approved for play. |
| March 13, 2013 the wood Men's 65 1123 posts | Ed, I trust you... I trusted you even before meeting you in BHC. I can put a face to the name with you. Your endorsement has meaning, IMO. You are a straight shooter and you're a Reebok rep... so your input has double credibility in my book. Perhaps after it's approved, the durability factor is known and all previous buyers are made whole (GBC's promise) this bat will get more acceptance. Until then it's just a bunch of unfulfilled vows. But your involvement should provide hope to those who have already paid into it. BW |
| March 13, 2013 Az Iz 66 posts | Cal50 In a few months I will be in that part of the country. I would like to visit the factory that you were at. Please provide the information necessary to make such a visit. Thank you |
| March 13, 2013 cal50 Men's 50 328 posts | Az Iz, it is not my company to authorize a visit. I suggest that you contact Steve as the time gets closer. His info is posted on his website. |
| March 13, 2013 Az Iz 66 posts | Cal50 Thanks for the info. I'll let Steve know you sent me. |
| March 13, 2013 cal50 Men's 50 328 posts | That's fine, but most of the other people would have figured it out for themselves. |
| March 13, 2013 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | wood: I know that people were ripped off by the previous owner. I know that Steve and Chip have both shared with me that those people who have stayed in contact will get bats first before new additional sales are shipped. I believe they are true to their word and it will be exciting for those who have felt left out in the cold. softball4b: Accurate statement. The bats have to meet regulation and be stamped before they can be used in play. |
| March 14, 2013 Corky Men's 55 451 posts | Tim been lookin at the Monsta Athletics senior bat and heard some good things about it....you got any experience or info on this bat? |
| March 14, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | I don't know anything about the Monsta bat. Just having a little fun with how staff closed a thread because when it turned towards talking about GSC it......"was not fair to the (Monsta) owners. Now.....if you want info on the new H&B senior bat in the works.....I can help you out. |
| March 14, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Tim, you truly are amazing! First you despise the Senior bats, now you are promoting one... I guess you were bought. Anyway, glad you come over to the dark side with the rest of us! Good job!;-) |
| March 14, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Sorry Rich. I have never said I would always play at a technological disadvantage because of my not wanting composite bats in softball. I have said...the game is safer and better with aluminum, and I would support anyone at any time trying to play an aluminum game over this composite stuff. As the games currently set...I will continue to swing my UTRIP bats in senior ball most of the time and then use senior bats on the other occasions |
| March 14, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | I still swing Aluminum in the City, no problem.. and I would go back to Aluminum over composites if they went back to the 50 core balls of the 90s.. We both know that isn't going to happen anytime soon, so it is what it is! Give Rennels your new SS bat and let me hit it.. |
| March 14, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Sorry I don't have any experience with those 50 cores the lower levels were hitting. Did you guys get to hit the girls 11 inch ball also? |
| March 14, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | LOL, we were hitting them in A league,and the creeks had them all the time.. Rainbow fields Martinez State championships but of course you have CRS! Timmy's world! |
| March 14, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Swing, I don't understand the crs thing but......I do know some form of restricted flight balls were used in every league (concord and walnut creek) and upper level tourney (major/a till 88 and AA ) I played in from the early 80s till the late 90s. Except when we played at the Smoky or Major World Series on baseball fields. I have some new balls from 91... They are Dudley rocks given to us for free when Dudley sponsored us that season....they are still new because we tried to hit them in BP and the dented bats. So I stored them away. Now......I am sure these were the hottest balls Dudley made in 91.....if your up for actually seeing how you do hitting these balls I will bring out the bats I used as gamers or bats from 81, 82, 84, 85, 86, early 90s, mid 90s....some how....I doubt you will hit very many/if any balls out of concord field one.....and without a doubt know you will not sniff the fence with most of them....and will be lucky if you do clear the fence to reach 325.....400 for you is delusional. Are you up for it some time? It could be a teachable moment. |
| March 15, 2013 softballnuts 81 posts | Monsta....A real bat |
| March 15, 2013 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | Rich/Tim/Nuts: Perhaps you can open your own thread like I did. I did not hijack anyones thread. |
| March 15, 2013 softballnuts 81 posts | What more is there to say about a bat that does not exist and a factory that does not exist. |
| March 15, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Sorry Surf, didn't mean to step on your toes about this magical bat! ;-) |
| March 15, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Interesting.....no answer on the Swing challenge..... Point made!!!! |
| March 16, 2013 ChiPrimeMarty Men's 60 104 posts | surf88, I thank you for your post I paid Bill Gately for a 2011 GBA on Sept 13 2010, but have yet to receive a bat. I have received repeated assurances from Steve and Chip they'll send me a bat, but actual delivery always seems around a future corner. I think it's extremely presumptuous for a commercial enterprise to name themselves "God's" Sports Company; to me it sounds more like a hook to attract cusomers on faith than a reason to trust the proprietors. Although I haven't met you, your post gives me some reassurance that, eventually, I'll have an actual bat in my hands from them. Considering the history and the degree of skepticism, if there really is a factory it seems suspicious they have no evidence of it on their web site. When I talked to Steve last year he said the delay in delivery was due to the sheer volume of orders for their senior bat. I found that very hard to believe, given how little support for it I've encountered in this forum and among senior players I know. |
| March 16, 2013 cal50 Men's 50 328 posts | ChiPrimeMarty, I have not posted as much as surf88. surf88 has said that he has been to the factory as I have. Neither of us have any reason whatsoever to lie about it. My observation from talking to Steve is that he has no commercial reason to have God in the name. My conversations with him tell me that is the way he believes and lives. I really don't think he has any other motive. |
| March 16, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | tell you what Timmy, I have some balls and bats from the 90s... I will bring them out and hit them... let's see what you think! I will not hit some mushy crap you obviously know that won't go anywhere! |
| March 16, 2013 HJ Men's 70 481 posts | A quibble. I don't think anyone has seen a "factory" in the technical sense of what is a factory which is a building where goods are manufactured. What was most likely seen was a laboratory, perhaps, where experimental bats are being fabricated. No one in their right mind would start producing bats until the prototypes were tested and approved by the sanctioning body. No one will receive or buy a bat until it has the 1.21 and SSUSA seals on it. Perhaps the right question to ask is whether a bat has been submitted to the designated lab to be certified for compliance. The name of the company is irrelevant. Many would probably buy a buy from The Devil Bat Company if they thought it the best bat out there. |
| March 16, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | I agree with HJ! |
| March 16, 2013 birdie Men's 70 802 posts | So there is hope that I will get my bat that I ordered when I was a young man. I am not holding my breath however. Thanks Harry |
| March 16, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | Birdie, there is hope for you... someone checked in close to 90 years old still playing... you might get it before you are 90! ;-) On the other hand, I have heard the new owners are on the up and up, so it's just a matter of time hopefully! I guess If I was in your shoes I would ask GOD Sport Company when do they expect the stamp approval! |
| March 16, 2013 taits Men's 65 4548 posts | A salesman trying to sell something not even on the market and he signed a confidentiality agreement with...go figure. |
| March 16, 2013 Az Iz 66 posts | What is the position or office that surf88 has with GSC? VP? Spokesman? GSC employee wannabe? |
| March 16, 2013 . 22 posts | Not sure just what his position is with GSC. From what information I have been told is that he is simply a GSC cheerleader. |
| March 17, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Swing....this originated when you said composites today are no different then aluminum and rock hard balls. I said in the single wall days there were a couple hands full of players that could hit a softball 400 feet. You called bs and I then went through a long list of when, where games that proved you wrong. I talked about '88 when my best homeruns went 330...you said bs. Now.....I give you the option of ttying to prove me wrong and you jump to not using my bats. I still have many of my bats from 81-early 90s.... What are you scared of? Being proven to not sniff a three hundred foot fence with my single wall technology? That's nothing to fear....many players couldn't reach the fence in those days...you'd just be one of the many...and yes....I will propane fail right next to you....we are old. So once again.....swinging my bats...bring whatever balls you want |
| March 17, 2013 usmc0311 32 posts | Tim is there anyone you know who is 50 or older that could do this? |
| March 17, 2013 swing for the fences Men's 50 1224 posts | I played softball in the 90s.... and 400 foot shots are still rare... people throw those numbers out there like popcorn.. but it you go to Google maps and measure things they are usually of by 30 ft short.. but what do I know! And once again Timothy, pay attention, I know it's difficult for you.. but I have pointed out what balls and bats... so, if you want to see what I'm talking about.. Go get c305 Aluminum single wall and a Blue stitched Skyhawk ball... Me and Serna will prove our facts! Anything else you have to say on the matter is BS just like you pimping a senior bat and then crying they are to hot... which is it with you.. Very delusional thinking on your part.. |
| March 18, 2013 usmc0311 32 posts | well Tim??? |
| March 18, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Marine, As far as a 50 + guy hitting a 50 core ball out of the none wind/altitude aided 300 foot park with an 80s era bat? There probably are some guys that could do it but.....it would probably be just like players that could hit a softball 400 feet during that era? Very few... That's the BS I call on Swing....his thinking many players were pushing four hundred feet before the double wall era is....delusional. Especially during the 80s. |
| March 18, 2013 usmc0311 32 posts | Tim i think im one of them. Lets make this happen!! |
| March 18, 2013 Corky Men's 55 451 posts | Softballnuts.....since nobody answered your question about Monsta.......It's real name is The Fossil.....made by Monsta Athletics.....Monstaathletics.com.....a buck fifty nine but not sure its been approved by any senior softball assoc. 1.21bpf?? checked it out on youtube.......but you know how that goes... some young stud jackin them out....it wasn't Imlay tho we all know he's just an old war horse.......Butch 17 made me say it stevie. |
| March 18, 2013 softballnuts 81 posts | Corky The Fossil has the senior logo if you look closely at the bats on the Monsta website. The bat that I was referring to as not existing is the GSC bats. |
| March 18, 2013 Tim Millette 615 posts | Marine....I usually carry around one of my two early 80s worth thumpers...they were both gamers..... I will bring them both to Vegas. I would love to see a 50+ guy hitting bombs out of the park with them. In my youth....330 would have been the max for me with these bats.....now....maybe 280. |
| March 18, 2013 Marv19 Men's 60 498 posts | Corky I have several in stock and they all have the SSUSA logo and the BPF 1.21 stamped on the barrel. I have a FIB in stock as well. Monsta is sponsoring the Southern California Spring Championship in Hemet next month. For more info go to www.socalssa.com |
| March 18, 2013 surf88 Men's 65 1000 posts | Dear SSUSA Staff, It truly seems that some senior players for whatever reasons feel they need to hijack other threads. Perhaps it is wise to close this thread. I opened it and ask you to please close it. Thank You |
