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Discussion: Other bats

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March 13, 2013
garyheifner
361 posts
Other bats
Just curious:

For those of you who play not only Senior ball, but USSSA and ASA etc.

How do the composite bats for these associations hold up in terms of durability? Are we talking 300+ hits and then look out. Or are we talking 1000s of hits?
March 13, 2013
JamesLG
303 posts

I have a first generation Worth Jeff Hall Maham (red) That has at least 1000 hits on it and is still going strong and when you hit the sweet spot is nearly as hot as any senior bat I have ever hit. Two of the longest balls i have ever hit were with this bat. If you can find one I highly recommend them.

Thanks:

James
March 13, 2013
SLOBALL1
Men's 50
173 posts
I have never used a senior bat.I've used the same worth bat since 2008.Bought it new. It must have 5-6000 hits on it.It took a while to get there but,it as Hot as any Senior bat.
March 13, 2013
ShaneV
Men's 55
382 posts
So maybe the senior bats are as much about impatience as
anything? All the complaining about $ and lack of
durability, just buy a Worth or something similar and
be patient!!!

I picked up a Combat Pure last year for BP and NSA
league. Since I've never cracked or broken any bat,
including senior, it will likely last me into my 90's!

ShaneV
March 13, 2013
tg69
309 posts
1000's if you dont hit in cold weather.
March 13, 2013
the answer
Men's 55
104 posts
I have been using a mizuno wrath extended here in nj in the cold..I even took about 75 swings in jan..it is hot right out of the wrapper..and only gets hotter..I bought 15 of them and have 10 left which i AM SELLING FOR $179 each..they are usssa nsa and isf approved..contact me at chapsteven4@aol.com if interested..if you need a cold weather bat that is more durable then a senior bat..but still hits well let me know thanks
March 14, 2013
Fred S
Men's 80
93 posts
I use either my 2010 Toxic or my PST137's. At the TOC I used my 27oz PST B&G and went 14 for 18.

Few years ago when playing for a 75 Major team tried a senior bat and after the first day went back to,at that time, my MUT98.

I hit the ball well with the Senior bat (Launch 510) but they were all long outs. They looked good but were just outs.
March 14, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
139 posts
Most of the other associations older composites will take 300+ swings to break-in and last forever. They can be had for under $200 and come with a 1 year warranty. The new stamp(USSSA 2013) models will break-in much faster, but not last as long. The new bats are made to unravel when they exceed the 1.20 bpf. I use my other association bats for bp, sometimes in temps below 50. My first composite was a Miken Velocit-E which was very hot but broke early in it's second season(Used in fall ball,temps below 40). This is when I found out that composites break from the inside out. I learned that you have to break-in the fibers(first 50-100 swings at 1/2-3/4 speed) before you swing all out and rotate the bat after every swing. I have owned 30+ composite bats since 2001 and have 28 left. IMO Miken, Easton, Demarini, & Worth seem to last forever. Mizuno,TPS(Louisville Slugger) and Combat perform well but lack in durability. Bats I have broken include Mizuno Wrath 120, Wrath Extended, Blur Advanced, Combat B1,Uncensored,PM Virus, and TPS SB101 Genesis, and Black Nexus. Only senior bat I broke was a Worth 454. Bat was a dud(200+ swings and still behind my ASA bats) so I tried hitting some old red dots(50/575+) 20 swings and the bat cracked. My gamers for USSSA were a Miken MV-1,Easton CNT+, and Combat Gear Supremacy.
March 14, 2013
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
Just got some new info from a local park director on a new bat company. He says the senior bat they are selling is as hot as the original gray ultra or the titanium....hesitate to buy the bat if its that hot, fearing it will be banned in a month like the gray ultra.......not sure if I can mention it on this site...I guess all they can do is delete it.....has anyone had any experience with Monsta Athletics senior bat 1.21bpf...monstaathletics.com
March 14, 2013
ju25
Men's 55
139 posts
If it is as hot as a Gray Ultra it will not pass the 1.21 bpf test. Titaniums are not as hot as senior bats with 44/375 balls.
March 15, 2013
WCMONSTA
31 posts
Our bat has been tested by Dr. Brandt at the Sport Science Lab and absolutely meets the BPF 1.21 standard and SSUSA has been given the test data.

Carl
President, Monsta Athletics
March 18, 2013
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
Approved by all the senior Associations?????
March 20, 2013
Navy
Men's 55
15 posts
@Corky - Is there an approved bat list for SSUSA or other Senior Associations that is available for viewing to find out if bats are approved for play, or do they just have to have the Senior Softball stamp as called for in the adopted rules for equipment in the 2013-2014 rule book? Your question made me look for an answer, and I haven't found anything pertaining to this except in the rule book.

I have had some experience with the Monsta Fossil senior bat. I have posted information about my experience with this bat in other posts. IMO this bat is every bit as good as any other senior bat on the market. My Reebok was my game bat, now it's my back up bat. My Fossil, now has over 600 hits on it in just over a month I've had it. I let anyone who wants to hit with it to do so. Everyone who has given it an honest, unbiased try, has been impressed with the bat. I believe that speaks volumes for the bat. Several people, who were dedicated Miken, Combat, and Reebok enthusiasts, have already told me they ordered thier own Fossil now.

Does this mean it's the best bat out there, only time will tell if that for sure. For me, I will continue to use the Fossil until something else comes out that performes as well, feels as good, and lasts as long from the durability I've seen so far. Just my opinion, from my experience only. Hope this helps to answer your question somewhat.
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