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March 20, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
432 posts
Socks
After a bout of plantar fasciitis, I switched to Feetures socks
which are generally supportive but have a more supportive band
which circles the middle of the arch. I use them for practice and games and I think they help. I am seeing more total support socks advertised for running. I am curious if others are wearing some kind of support socks for practice, games and/or recovery. If so, what are you wearing and do you think they help?
March 20, 2013
TexasTransplant
Men's 70
416 posts
HJ, I had the same problem a couple of years ago. My daughter, who is a physical therapist, showed me a simple tape job that has prevented a recurrence. I recently found a device called the Tarsal Support Wrap, which simulates that tape job very well, and is much quicker to put on. I use the wrap for practice and league games, but still tape up for tournaments when I am going to be playing all day.

I bought the wrap off a website called FootSmart.com, but I'm sure it's available other places as well. Cost about $30 with shipping
March 20, 2013
Bubble Gum
64 posts

My Podiatrist has me wearing foot pads custom fit for my feet. They have been working for me for about a year now with no problem.
March 20, 2013
16wood
4 posts
I have purchased several pairs of dri-fit socks thru Foot Smart. I've been wearing them for 3-4 years now and my feet remain comfortable. I've had no issues like plantar fasciitis.
I prefer the Fox River Triathlon Quarter cuts and/or Wigwams. I initially found them locally but then I had to search for them on line. They run about $9 per pair but seem to last 2 yrs or more.
BW
March 20, 2013
E4/E6
Men's 60
850 posts
I went to my local Berkenstock shoe store and bought a couple of pair of Berkenstock 1/2 insoles. They are ridgid and fit from the heal to about the start of the ball. Keeping the arch well supported and they last much longer then the support socks.
I have them in my cleats and walking shoes.
Since using these I have had no issues with Plantar Fascitis.
My research also suggests stretching the calf muscles well before any running or exerting exercise of the feet and lower legs.
March 20, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
979 posts
for me I had a bad bout of it two years ago.. Doc gave me a shot and got me on a wall stretch that I do everyday.. haven't had a problem since.. I also tape up when I play... the wall stretch of the Calf is the most important thing to do! You can Google the Plantar Wall stretch.. it will give you relief and it's free.. I feel better walking right after do it!
March 20, 2013
swing for the fences
Men's 50
979 posts
yes E4/E6

the Wall Stretch is the only stretch that thoroughly stretches the Calf which interns stretches the Plantar, according to my Doctor who got me back in the Worlds 3 days before the Tourney, I couldn't walk..I thought I was done! I went on to have a pain free Tourney and kept the regiment of stretching everyday with zero issues for two year so far.. The reason you need to stretch the plantar, is it gets rope like when we get older and then it frays...when you stretch it everyday it gets it back to a point you reach when you run or walk so it's not fraying.. that simple..Good luck to all and hope this info helps out.. if you are at a point that you can't walk in the morning go get a shot to calm it down and start wall stretching!
March 20, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
432 posts
First, I would like more input about socks which is the topic of this thread. I particularly would like to know if anyone is using support hose like you use on an airplane. And yes that make them in sport styles.

Second, since there were a number of comments about Plantar Fasciitis I feel obligated to comment:
A. Don't take the shot unless absolutely necessary to continue playing in a game or games you deem important. The shot provides pain relief but actually weakens the plantar fascia.
B. Power Step makes cheap orthotics which for many work well. I use their Pinnacle Maxx model for games and in all walking and other sports.
C. SB is the worse sport for PF since there are long pauses when you do nothing and then you are required to run hard suddenly. My doc, a SB player, advises to jog a bit before games or practice and then to intermittently jog a bit during games or practice. This is to keep the fascia warm, and relaxed.
D. Swing is right about the wall stretch. Email me and I will call you if you want details on one that really works.
E. Swing is wrong about what the wall stretch does. The problem with PF is that the calf is too short, pulls up on the heel, and thereby stretches the plantar fascia. The constant stretching causes inflammation and pain. By stretching the calf muscles the heel is not pulled up and the fascia attached to the heel is not pulled and the fascia can then relax. The overstretched fascia can actually cause a bone spur. The spur is the result of PF not the cause.
F. Wearing shoes with inserts most of the day keeps the fascia relaxed and long (not stretched). Magnesium supplements can help relax the fascia as can epson salt baths.
March 22, 2013
Tri18
609 posts
HJ,
I have alot of experience (fortunately and unfortunately) with PF. I coach and train many athletes who have experienced it and had a huge dose of it myself for the better part of a year. I had to resort to 2 shots of cortisone as a last ditch effort to get me through the Ironman Triathlon. (It didnt help much)There are some good ideas on the previous threads and questions on compression socks so I'll throw out a little information to hopefully contribute. PF is quite common around sports involving running so ALOT of my endurance athletes have suffered in various degrees from it. However, even a non-athletic person is not immune from the tightening and inflammation associated with PF and the pain it causes. Initially, ice is the best remedy in the beginning stages as with most soft tissue injuries. Freezing a frozen orange juice concentrate can and rolling on it along the bottom of the foot provides relief. Stretching can also help but depending on the location and severity of your case it can also aggravate the original injury site. Additionally, there is the Strasberg Sock which can be worn at night to keep the PF stretched out so it does not shorten during sleep. Anyone with PF can attest to the pain that you feel when the first few steps are taken in the morning! As far as COMPRESSION socks and Compression wear...they do help with any type of soft tissue injury and promote overall recovery from aggressive physical activity or injury by increasing blood flow to those areas. As a long time Endurance Athlete and Professional Coach, I tried and tested many variations over the years. This technology is more prevalent amongst long distance runners and athletes due to the pounding of vigorous training and racing on a daily basis. Many of my clients and my own training build ups for Ironman racing involve swimming, cycling, running, and lifting for 35+ hour a week with running mileage in excess of 70 miles per week. Thousands of endurance athletes have embraced the benefits of compression wear as socks, calf sleeves, shorts, tights, and even tops. Many, many professional players in football, baseball, tennis, basketball, and a variety of sports have found wearing compression wear before, during, and after training or games to be extremely helpful with not just injuries but recovery. I still wear calf sleeves and sometimes full socks when I play and afterwards as it helps with muscular soreness from the pounding of 3 or 4 games in a day. When I started researching and testing various products, I found a company called Zensah and tried some of their products as they have models directly designed for athletes. I was extremely happy with the results and the relatively modest cost for good quality products so I included them in my product line a number of years ago and have been providing them to athletes ever since. If you need more specific information get in touch with me. Sorry about the long post...there is ALOT of information out there on these 2 topics.

Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
tricoach18@att.net
March 22, 2013
HJ
Men's 70
432 posts
Thank you Alan; this is precisely the info I was looking for. I have already switched to very tight UA tops, and Bike 7625 commpression shorts.
I will check out the Zensahs on your site and other sites. I consistently find no good reason not to use compression wear. Restated I find no downside and think there is mucho upside. Thanks again.
March 27, 2013
usmc0311
32 posts
Thank you Alan, Team 1 Sports!
www.team1sports.us
I canít Thank you enough for the very helpful information regarding my plantar fasciitis! I am looking forward to being more pain free than not this softball season.

I received my package today and am wearing the compression socks you recommended and they feel great!

A few words for the rest of you/us suffering with plantar fasciitis. I took Alan up on his offer and contacted him to discuss my plantar issue with him. He was more than happy to take time to explain to me what the condition was, how it happens, and give me pointers on relieving the pain.
Talk about customer service?! Alan talked with me for close to an hour (a little softball here and there of course) about my condition and what I could do to repair it. Per his suggestion I ordered some compression socks and a few other items directly from him over the phone! Talk about making things easy for a guy!
Within minutes of hanging up, I received a text message telling me that my items had already been shipped!

Alan was great to talk to and is very knowledgeable on the subject of plantar fasciitis and I am sure in other sports injury/recovery areas as well based on his work experience.
I absolutely recommend contacting him and checking out his website. He has a great line of products designed specifically for athletes in many sports.
I know where I will be shopping from now on for these types of products.

Alan, thanks again for your time and invaluable information about my condition. I look forward to seeing you on the field again, that is as long as you donít walk me 7 times on Sunday!
Take care and I hope you have a great season, best of luck to you and your team!

Semper Fi,
Kirby Murphy
March 27, 2013
Tri18
609 posts
Kirby,
Thank you for the kind words. I really enjoyed speaking with you and trying to help you out. As you can see, I really like working with athletes and helping them in any way I can whether it's selecting the right bat, designing a workout, or getting them a product that will help them overcome an injury. Fortunately, I have much experience working with athletes at all levels and I am aligning Team 1 Sports to work specifically with players and athletes in the " senior game" since I am there myself. I truly mean it when I say pick up the phone and call me, I'll be glad to help you anyway I can. In my mind, Personal Customer service trumps everything in today's world of non-personal service. If you guys need anything, call me at 561-718-7504. Team 1 is the only softball company that specializes in the senior game.
Thanks again Kirby,

Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
April 3, 2013
Tri18
609 posts
It's amazing how many calls and emails I have received from various players concerning PF since the subject was introduced. And I thought us triathletes and runners had it bad! Lol the good news is I got my re stocking order in today from Zensah so I can get your orders filled. If anyone needs help with recovery from exercise fatigue and or injury get with me and I'm happy to help your get the proper compression wear.
Alan
Team 1 Sports
Tricoach18@att.net
Sept. 12, 2013
phantomf4j
21 posts
Just for sheer comfort and excellent padding, I like the Thor-Lo socks. They are not therapeutic or compression socks, but are very durable and offer geat comfort. I heard once that an athlete competing in a triathalon could not find his shoes after the swim portion, so he completed the running event in Thor-Lo socks. I beleive this is possible because these socks are incredibly strong. The padded bottom and heel stays thick and comfortable for years.
Sept. 13, 2013
Corky
Men's 55
446 posts
Watched A professional athletic trainer on youtube do a great tape job using the Stretchy KT tape....tried it and it works great...go to youtube type in plantar fasciitis KT tape...but ya gotta do the stretching icing and fascii massage.
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