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Discussion: ASA Only?

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March 24, 2013
DonB
48 posts
ASA Only?
I might be playing on a 60+ tournament team. In Canada we are only allowed to use the 1.20 thumb print stamped bat. The team will be playing the odd tournament in the states that I believe senior bats 1.21 are allowed. If I had an ASA only bat could I use it there?

Don
March 24, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
ASA bats are good most anywhere, but you should check with the TD to be sure. No one like surprises.
ASA is usually 98 not 1.20. Many 1.20 bats are as good as 1/21. Some 1.21 bats are not as good as some 1.20 bats as well.
March 25, 2013
DonB
48 posts
Hi taits...I was informed that the asa only bats are being tested the same as prior asa bats were except that they are now using the hotdots 52/300.Apparently if you use a 44/375 ball with the new asa only bats they will be hotter than the new 1.20 thumb print stamped bats.That is why here in Canada we will not be allowed to use them in SPO(Slow Pitch Ontario) and SPN(Slow Pitch National) sanctioned tournaments.If you have a new asa stamp as well as the thumb print stamp it will be accepted.I do agree that not all bats in the same category are equal.And I'm also a fool who owns to many bats and will bring different ones with me .

Don
March 25, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
They use the so called hot dots here for events but imo they suck even thought I have seen some go over a 278 fence by 50-55 year old guys. Nothing spectacular but over none the less.
There are a few bats that were "made" for the 52 cor balls, probable to get them within standards to pass.
I guess this is what they call the evolution of bats. lmao.

Here in league, they use a 'dream seam' ball ( not new here) I think a 44 cor, but it's dead after a inning or so. But we can this year at least until this week use some Sr bats in 50, 58's and 63+ teams. That said there were complaints on the bats. In 40's some illegal ones were also found being used by 3 guys*. Not sure is trying to use better bats (NON ASA or USSSA or otherwise altered. So I think the rules will change to lessor bats this or next week. No one has been hit or hurt league is league..RECREATIONAL guys mostly.

* A 40's bracket team, only one team but has some 50's on it.

I too have a pile of bats as well as balls. Still have an alloy or 2 with wrapper on as well as composites you don't see being used cause everyone us keeping up with the Joneses.
My experience has been: Bats can be made to fit within specific specs.
Balls also, but difference is with them you can order xx\xxx ball and have the stamp made to say what ever you want. That is all part of marketing.
March 25, 2013
DonB
48 posts
I play in an oldtimers 3 pitch league that adopted the hotdot 52/275 last year.At the beginning of the season I didn't do well,but the last half I started to hit it better.When hit correctly the ball will fly.I did hit 4 that went over a fence that was 275ft away. Yes I was hitting from home plate. This is my bragging post but I do a lot of bp . I don't like the sound of the dream seam ball.I hope no one hears of it up here.

Don
March 25, 2013
taits
Men's 65
4548 posts
I've played in a couple 3 pitch leagues, but prefer 0-0 count. if I remember right you need to hit those ball in the lower half of the ball so it spins upwards.
Did they move the plate to the outfield...lol...
I don't like the idea of having to relearn how or where to hit a darn ball.
Have fun doing what you do.
The dream seam is a Worth fast pitch ball. Seams are larger.
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