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| Sept. 6, 2006 bashbro1 Men's 70 267 posts | “Netiquette” What we need on this msg. Board is more practice of World-Wide-Web-Internet “Netiquette” in my opine! Netiquette (i.e. NETwork etIQUETTE) is a cyberspace coined word that unofficially governs the improper manners when conferencing between two or more users on an online service or the Internet. You know, the obvious things like no cussing, use of profanity, verbal insults, verbal admonishments and so on are not proper netiquette. The use of UPPER CASE LETTERS TO MAKE A POINT is poor netiquette along with the interjecting of emoticons throughout a message is also not good netiquette or indicating you can meet me off-line if you so desire to settle an issue of contention. Having said the above, netiquette says nothing about having to be “SERIOUS” when responding to a ‘Thread” and making every EXCHANGE one of PROFOUND meaning and sincerity. MSG boards are there for us to exchange ideas yes I would agree, but not in the sense of a University exchange between Scientists discussing “String” theory, but amongst people spending a little time in free moments having some FUN and establishing new acquaintances outside their own backyard. Bashbro1- A gainfully employed website programmer for a large aero-space company out of Kent, WA |
| Sept. 6, 2006 DMac Men's 60 207 posts | What we need is less posturing by self-annointed intellectuals who try to beat the rest of us into submission with big words. I would much rather read a post from someone speaking from the heart than from someone who, for all we know, is sitting at his computer armed with a dictionary and Wikipedia. I learned a long time ago that there is little correlation between academic achievement and common sense. Personally I would like to see how well your vocabulary would hold up in a face-to-face meeting with Einstein. By the way, a Cal Tech professor once told me that the real Einstein didn't have a lick of common sense, but that was just hearsay. |
| Sept. 7, 2006 4x4 Men's 65 601 posts | Strongly agree. This is a good format to gain information and have some light hearted fun and comradarie. When things get caustic it tends to over ride the entire nature of what we are here for = fun with friendly hard fought competion coupled with good sportsmanship. Any subject related to what we do should be made available and discussed but not crusaded for until someone katows or is miss treated. We are all competative in spirit or we wouldn't be out there doing what we are doing or for that matter even bothering with these threads. This sport can be a very harsh mistress. Change is good and in fact is the only constant in life, however, once a topic has reached the point of one person (any person) slapping down others because his/hers idea is rejected or not readily agreed with then the thread should be shut down. It then has lost it's value as a topic of discussion. |
| Sept. 7, 2006 DMac Men's 60 207 posts | Pete: I'm on Einstein's side on this one. I'm against platooning but I admire his perseverance and support his right to push his views. You and Bash have yet to offer any real rebuttals to his ideas and have chosen instead to attack his right to speak. Now you are upset at his response? Your eloquent language does nothing to conceal your personal attacks and I don't blame him for wanting to kick your (_)(_). Sorry for the use of the emoticon. |
| Sept. 7, 2006 bashbro1 Men's 70 267 posts | DMac. I've offered many sincere and honest rebuttals to the platooning concept; I guess you weren't paying attention? Here's one repeated below that einstein (lower case ‘e’) actually complemented me on as interesting, informative and sincere in content but seemed to get lost in the ongoing droning on the subject even though those that have taken the time to vote are against 9-1. From Bashbro1 regarding subject of Senior's Platooning: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The platoon system in baseball as I understand it is a method of designating two players to a single defensive position; usually one right-handed hitter and the other one a left-handed hitter to hit against the opposite throwing arm. Typically the right-handed half of the platoon is played on days when the opposing pitcher is left-handed and the left-handed hitter is played against the righties. The theory behind this is that generally players hit better against their opposite-handed counterparts because of the curveball and sidearm motions that aim right toward their body. We do not have that scenario in slo-pitch softball because the ball is lobbed up to the hitter and there is little or no break on the ball most of the time to be of a concern. Switch hitters “beat” the platoon system in baseball. Baseball hitters have an easier time with a pitch that is breaking from outside of the plate into their power zone. Players, on average over the years, have more trouble hitting a ball that starts at their body and then breaks over the plate sharply at the last split second which is not the case in slo-pitch softball. As a result of some hitters stepping in the bucket on curveballs and sliders brings some managers to use left handed hitters against right-handed pitching and vise-versa for the percentages of hitting success. Baseball also does some platooning by splitting games between home run hitters and speedy contact hitters as the ball park dimensions and conditions. Granted, there are some late-inning defensive replacements which is also a form of baseball platooning between two players which is in line with what you’re ascribing but it’s not the primary purpose of platooning in baseball. The managers I remember growing up that were famous for making a habit of platooning players were Earl Weaver and Casey Stengel. These two managers primarily took the journeymen players who had lost some of their defensive skill and base running speed and would platoon them with younger players not yet considered fine hitters due to lack of experience in the league. No where can I find in my research where a player stated he really enjoyed being platooned. I just don’t believe it would be viable strategy in our game today even if it gives some guys a good blow at times. The Senior slo-pitch ball club I play for makes certain not to burn out players in tournaments by carrying a surplus of outfielders. We use a simple rotation in our outfield so that you at least sit every (2-3) innings for (1-2) for some welcomed rest but we still hit! Another thing that’s been mentioned in the threads above is that many times your best defensive athletes are also fine hitters and all-around ball players in general that would hurt the team if they did not play on both sides of the ball. Furthermore, over the years a baseball ball-player is measure by five major attributes not two or three:: 1. Hitting for average 2. Hitting for power 3. Base running skill (also speed) 4. Throwing arm 5. Defensive skill The platooning you’re referring to works well in football but won’t on the diamond as in my opinion strikes at the heart of doing your best to be a complete ballplayer no matter your age or physical condition. There are other ways to give players rest and keep them involved in all aspects of the game. Bashbro1-All-World NASCA/SSWC 2005 Des Moines, IA |
| Sept. 7, 2006 DMac Men's 60 207 posts | Bash: I've been paying attention enough to know that you deal in generalities, not specifics. What do professional baseball and football have to do with Senior Softball? Totally different games. Also, at our age we are way past the stage of developing "complete players". By the way, do you get paid by the word at work? |
| Sept. 7, 2006 einstein Men's 50 3112 posts | Bash, You're obviously a brilliant guy but that doesn't mean you have anything to say about a subject as simple as what platooning or free defensive substitution means to Senior Softball. You've missed its central argument and points numerous times either intentionally or unintentionally. What I'm trying to do is put forth the idea and it's merits, simply and basically, then, RESPECTFULLY, argue and expose them long enough to reach a lot of our players. I'm serious and the subject is, too. It could help us, a ton. If you want to play or riff or expound knock yourself out on your own thread but let mine stay simple so we can argue, discuss and talk to the greatest amount of players. As for the guys who disagree, Cool. Disagree respectfully, state your reasons or not, and then get out of the way so others can have a chance. It's about ideas and respect which no one will argue are essential for all of us to live and stay well. Maybe, Fran and Terry can help us set up and define a way to encourage and develop new ideas on the website. |
| Sept. 7, 2006 60 Bill 27 posts | Fat Ladys singing here to einstein |
