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Discussion: 4 days is one too many

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Sept. 26, 2006
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
4 days is one too many
I was talking with some of the players this weekend
and one topic came up that merits some serious attention.
Four day tournamnents that start on Thursday
mean you have to travel on Wednesday.
Most of our guys, can't be away that long for a variety of reasons.
I agree with most of the guys I spoke with
that tournament directors need to limit our tournaments
to 3 days.
What do you say?
Sept. 27, 2006
the wood
1071 posts
Bingo! I'm really sick of hearing about the 6 game guarantee. What we really get is 'guaranteed burn out'. Let's get real here... who benefits most with the 4th day? Is it the player that took the extra vacation day (younger divisions) or the assn itself?
In P.S. we began play on Thursday and played 4 seeding games. In the 55 major + division we had 6 teams and 4 seeding groups. We never played a major + team until the first round of DE. We played 1 major, 2 AAA and 1 AA team. Doesn't this fly in the face of the Impact Player List, etc.?
Why can't we reduce it to 3 days in our division? SPA and LVSSA does and we usually have 5-6 teams there. They don't pit us against anything other than major + teams.
The obvious answer to my hypothethical question is revenue. But if we, the players (remember us?), should stand up for our beliefs. Don't go to the 4 day events unless we are willing to endure them. GSF will likely attend one but not both next year... for this reason and others.
E - yes, I will join you on the arbitration thing. I am puzzled and disappointed by Vicki/SSWS' posture on this.
Sept. 27, 2006
Gary Heifner
248 posts
I would also like to see 3 day events. It would be OK if on the first day you had "3" prelim games that were clustered. Like have back to back games, an hour off and then the 3rd. It would not be good to have one at 8:00AM, another at 2:00PM and a third at 9:00PM which I have experienced before. 3 games are more than enough for seeding. Most would be happy with a "5" game guarantee.
Sept. 28, 2006
OREO
Men's 60
88 posts
LET'S NOT LEAVE OUT THE 2DAY EVENTS THAT
PLAY FRIDAY & SATURDAY AND NO SUNDAY.
MANY OF OUR 60YR OLDS STILL WORK AND
HAVE TO TAKE OFF WORK ON FRIDAY &
SOMETIMES EARLY ON THURS. 2DAY SHOULD
BE SATURDAY & SUNDAY ONLY. OUR TEAM IS
PROBABLY GOING TO FEWER TOURNAMENTS IN
'07 IN PART DUE TO THIS. TRAVEL COST RISING
AND TAKING OFF FROM WORK FOR WHATEVER
REASONS THE TD'S FEEL WE HAVE TO PLAY ON
FRI & SAT. IS BECOMING A FINANCIAL BURDEN
TO MANY OF US.
Sept. 28, 2006
red from Wylie tx.
Men's 60
48 posts
This year Tulsa had the 69's starting Thursday playing through Sat. We skipped it and will continue to avoid the Thursday starts, we do make exceptions for the Nationals, if you can't get off a couple of day for the big events you should not be on a tournament team. Now we don't play but 2 at the most, teams playing 4 or 5 I understand the problem. I have suggested that they have on 2 RR games and they are practice only I'm convinced you can't seed a tourney with 3 games. At a national tournament just put everyone in a hat and draw, that is fair. We have been in tournament where we play 3 good teams and others where we played 3 bad teams, its not fair either way. You could ask who wants to play RR games the teams that do show up on Thursday and play, anyone not wanting practice games show up for the DE and play. Fair for everyone. But same cost for everyone. it up to each team to do whats best for them.
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