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Discussion: sick players at Sunset Park

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Oct. 8, 2013
Davy
12 posts
sick players at Sunset Park
State Roofing Systems 75's finished at Sunset Park in Las Vegas on Thursday, Oct. 3.

6 of our players became sick on Thursday, and especially on Friday and Saturday with what appeared to be severe flu eg. vomiting , weakness, diarhyea, etc. One went to the doctor and extensive lab tests confirmed that it was an intestinal infection requiring antibiotics, NOT the flu. All sick drank the dugout water. 8 others on our team did not drink the water and were OK.

We are wondering if any one else playing at Sunset experienced anything feeling like the flu and also drinking the dugout water.

Thanks for any input

Davy
Oct. 8, 2013
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2617 posts
Our 60 m+ team played there a 10 days ago. One player couldn't come to the park on our second day, Saturday. He told me it took 4 days to get over it.
I became sick on Tuesday, eating nothing for 2 days. It took me 5 or 6 days to recover.
I can't attribute my sickness to the park but my teammate's illness is questionable.
I drank little of the water but don't know how much my teammate drank.
I didn't go to a doctor and don't believe my teammate did either.
Oct. 8, 2013
Dbax
Men's 60
1247 posts
A players wife got sick after eating a hot dog at Sunset.
Oct. 8, 2013
gary#27nor.ca.storm
Men's 55
58 posts
i was sick for a week same thing drank water at sunset park playing with timberworks 60 major+ fever, diarhyea,headaches lasted for 5 days went to v.a. same thing intestinal infection
Oct. 9, 2013
Mark 44
Men's 60
55 posts
Maybe that explains the food poisoning I had for a week after being at Sunset.
Oct. 9, 2013
Mr. Manassas
225 posts
Wow...That's weird....I played for superior 60s and I came down sick the following Tuesday and was in bed until Saturday...At first I thought I had food poisoning but then heard that at least five of my teammates got sick as well....
Oct. 9, 2013
Marv19
Men's 60
429 posts
You know! I have told this story over and over, even on this forum. This is the primary reason we DO NOT provide water in the dugouts at our tournaments. Not to mention there are drinking fountains conveniently located at all of our venues. Question: when have you ever seen one of those drums sanitized? For us we have heard about guys soaking their sweaty towels in the ice water to put them on their heads. I even heard one story about a guy putting his injured foot in the barrel to keep down the swelling. I had one guy at our tournament in September tell me “you better put water in the dugouts or were not coming again”. He went on... ”No on second thought when somebody dies from dehydration we'll just sue your a$$” As he’s telling me this Im looking at a drinking fountain no more than 30 feet away. Count your blessing and be thankful it was just an intestinal thing. Tip of the day: Don’t drink from those things!
Oct. 9, 2013
Mulewhipper
54 posts
Yes...I was at Sunset on the weekend of 27th-29th and came home sick as a dog. Stomach was tore up for a week.
I didn't eat anything there...just drank the water from the dugout...never again will I drink out of those water jugs.
I was at BLD this weekend and it's a little harder to drink your own water here as they don't let you bring anything in and you have to drink there stuff.
But again I have come down with an illness after this weekend.


Oct. 9, 2013
stick8
1261 posts
We (OKI) had 3 players that played in the 55's on the first weekend. I'm not certain if they played their 55's at Sunset but we played 50 major plus at Sunset. The three each came down with food poisoning during the week between 55's and 50's. They think they got it from eating salad that wasn't rinsed off at a restaurant in Boulder Station. If that turns out to be the case that does not bode well for the host hotel!! They all had diareeah like they've never experienced. They really didn't eat for most of the week, lost weight, lost strength and lost stamina. One guy was so bad he went to the hospital and was in icu for a couple days. One guy played but only at about 60%. He ran to the port-a-pottie a few times. Looking at him it was obvious he was weak and getting weaker but he gave what he had. One guy tried but he wasn't himself and the other just couldn't go.. Today being wednesday October 9 I understand they still have it in their system. Food poisoning is no joke!!
Although it's a nice gesture by the tournament to provide water I NEVER drink that water. I always buy my own bottled water and drink that.
Oct. 9, 2013
Lecak
Men's 55
1005 posts
It may not be Sunset. I live in Las Vegas there is something going around the Valley just as you are describing. I have several Doctor friends and they are internal medicine and they are seeing this all over. Someone I work with 30 years old just spent a day in the hospital with the exact same symptoms described and was diagnosed with a GI tract viral infection (lower intestine). He started with symptoms Tuesday landed in the hospital Thursday and yesterday started to eat solid foods.
Oct. 9, 2013
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
As Lecak wrote, my wife had the same problem about 10 days ago, we live in Vegas, and she hasn't been to a softball game or a softball complex in several years.
Oct. 9, 2013
mad dog
Men's 60
3935 posts
mule....i take my 1/2 gallon jug in all the at BLD's....
Oct. 9, 2013
mad dog
Men's 60
3935 posts
cuvreball,i'm wondering if have a case....i'm up here in st george and the last 3 days fealing like crap.....
Oct. 10, 2013
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
Sure, it could be a Vegas thing, but Davy's original post was definitive that those who drank their own water were not affected and the six that drank out of the jug became ill. Also, the doctor diagnosed it as definitely a bacterial intestinal infection. If SSUSA has to pay for the water to be provided, they should protest and get a refund, hinting that there could be legal action. If the parks just routinely do this for softball players, they should at least be notified and change their hygiene practices. Won't help with the guy who plunges his twisted ankle into the jug! LOL

Marv is right. I never drink out of the water jug, but bring my own. And, like mad dog, I have never been challenged at BLD for bringing in my 1/2 gallon water jug which I tell the attendant up front is water. If I were challenged, I would open the top and pour some out so the attendant knows it is water. Don't be scared by the sign about no outside beverages. On the other hand, I was wandering in after a lunch break once with a Pepsi cup and legitimately was asked to dump it, which I did.
Oct. 10, 2013
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
mad dog, I hope you aren't getting it. Wife had it coming out both ends, wasn't fun for her for sure.
Hope you're doing well in St. George, weather looked iffy this morning. Hit em' long and deep Bob.
Oct. 10, 2013
Mulewhipper
54 posts
Thanks MD...gonna do this from now on.
Oct. 10, 2013
mad dog
Men's 60
3935 posts
robbie i'm still feeling it don't have any of those symptoms tho.........weather was iffy this morn....it only put us back an hr.....we are done now pack tomorrow and leave friday afternoon or early saturday morn....

omar-mule....i'll bring a sandwich also every now again...just put in my jacket pocket....
Oct. 12, 2013
fever
9 posts
I became sick on Monday, after playing at Sunset Park in the 60 Major plus Nationals. 105.8 temperature on Tuesday. Fever lasted nearly 8 days. I still have Diarrhea. Sounds like it may have been the water. Although, I also ate one of their hot dogs.
Oct. 14, 2013
Caveman
Men's 50
64 posts
Marv,
Nothing wrong with providing water for teams at tournaments, but never out of the community drum. I spend a few extra dollars to buy the small bottles (under 8oz) and the players love them
Treacy
Oct. 15, 2013
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
Redwood City in California also provides small bottles of water by the hundreds at its tournaments. Plenty of money to provide that within the tournament fee if they are bought in bulk at a warehouse club.
Oct. 15, 2013
bkb555
87 posts
I play with a guy who traveled to Vegas and he got sick at Sunset park....he drank dugout water and was the only guy who did and the only guy who got sick...by the 7th inning he said his stomach hurt so badly he was hunched over in severe pain.....the bathrooms were 100's of yards from the fields too...it was not a good combination
Oct. 15, 2013
JDub
Men's 50
131 posts
A very good friend of my eldest son passed away from drinking tainted water back in 2002. Here is the link:

http://www.golfarizona.com/departments/features/virus-outbreak.htm


Have Fun, Be Safe,
Jeff White #7
AZ Elite 50M+
Oct. 16, 2013
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
Yikes! JDub makes it serious. Now that I remember, my grandfather died of drinking tainted water (never met him, he was just a young husband and father when he died).

Considering the number of reports on this website about Sunset Park, seems like it should be seriously looked into. Perhaps SSUSA can forward these concerns to the park management.
Oct. 16, 2013
FOFO
Men's 50
165 posts
I don't think Sunset Park has anything to do with providing the water coolers. I think that is LVSSA. The scarey part is hearing that guys soak their swaety towols and stick their feet in a water cooler they know other people are going to drink water from. WTH! That's just crazy.
Oct. 16, 2013
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2617 posts
My illness didn't hit me until Tuesday afternoon. By Wednesday I was sick as a dog, didn't eat anything until Thursday evening. I'm just glad it didn't hit me while on the flight home Monday evening!!!
I drank the water at Sunset and had a hot dog.
Oct. 17, 2013
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
FOFO, you are probably right about LVSSA. Doesn't change the point that SSUSA should register its alarm.

Problem with LVSSA doing the water coolers is that they probably pick them up from all the fields and store them somewhere. If there is a contaminated cooler, how do you find it among the 20-30 in some storage area? But perhaps LVSSA has permission to store them at each field? Our club has some privileges like that since we are such frequent and year-round users of the fields.

As to dunking a towel, or even feet! in the cooler, what grown man would do that? And who, seeing it, would drink after it? No way any field or association can protect against such behavior. Do the same adult dunkers use the cooler as a spittoon as well? LOL
Oct. 17, 2013
gott2play
Men's 55
138 posts
Let me get this straight, the park facility or SSUSA makes certain there is a 5 gallon jug with drinking water and cups for participants, and some players dip their towels, or in some cases their injured foot in the jug?...WTF! What are we, a bunch of Neanderthals? I guess women calling men pigs has been validated.



Oct. 18, 2013
FOFO
Men's 50
165 posts
You also have to wonder about team members who would sit by and watch this type of behavior if in fact it happens.
Oct. 18, 2013
softball4b
Men's 60
722 posts
Okay this urban myth has reached its zenith. This incident may or may not have occurred 3-4 years ago in a park in SoCal. Either way it did not happen at Sunset this year and did not contribute to the Vegas Flu.....while the water was not to my liking, I did not suffer any symptoms as detailed.

That being said, the conditions at the park were poor at best and I feel certain SSUSA will address them, regardless of the division.
Oct. 18, 2013
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
softball4b speaks definitively that this is an urban myth because he did not get sick after drinking water at Sunset. I assume he went to every dugout and drank from every cooler to be sure none of the eight were contaminated.

If it is an urban myth...
Davy is confused when he states the six who drank all got ill and the eight who didn't drink remained healthy...
the Las Vegas Doctor didn't know what he was talking about when he diagnosed one of the six as NOT having the flu...
Dbax was mistaken that one of the wives got food poisoning--it was the flu...
gary#27 drank the water at Sunset and got sick but it was just a coincidence...
Mark44 had food poisoning after Sunset, evidently not the flu but another coincidence...
Mr. Manassas also had six teammates who got sick after drinking water at Sunset but he too was mistaken like Davy...
Mulewhipper drank the water at Sunset and was ill--just another coincidence...
Stick8 had a teammate in ICU after Sunset, and it was not the flu, but again L.V. doctors don't know much...
bkb555 has a friend who was the only one who drank water at Sunset on his team and the only one to get sick--what a string of coincidences.

Also note that none of the flu that softball4b attributes this too was contagious since teammates in close quarters in the dugouts did not get sick, only the water drinkers. Hmmmmmmm

Maybe softball4b can tell us his inside knowledge as to why this is just an urban myth.
Oct. 18, 2013
softball4b
Men's 60
722 posts
Let me clarify, the urban myth I am referring to is the towels and or body parts in the water cooler. I do not know the cause of the sickness associated with the players or fans at Sunset park. Sorry for my lack of clarification.
Oct. 19, 2013
Omar Khayyam
984 posts
softball4b, sorry to misunderstand. I have personally seen guys dunk their towels or kerchiefs in the water cooler because it is faster and less messy than coming from the spigot--one of the reasons I never drink from any water cooler in the dugout and bring my own small container of water.

And I would agree that the story of the guy who plunged his twisted ankle into the icy water is likely an urban myth--we have heard of it, but no one seems to have witnessed it. It would take quite a Neanderthal, as gott2play says, to do that in front of his teammates, and I would rather not play with Neanderthals (unless they can hit it 400 feet LOL).

Dec. 1, 2013
JDub
Men's 50
131 posts
As the saying goes, "There is no such thing as Coincidence."

'Nasty' stomach virus sidelines 90 at youth football tourney in Vegas ! ! !

Here is the link:
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/30/21690425-nasty-stomach-virus-sidelines-90-at-youth-football-tourney-in-vegas


Have Fun, Be Safe,
Jeff White #7
AZ Elite 50M+
Dec. 1, 2013
JDub
Men's 50
131 posts
Here's another link:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/dozens-fall-ill-youth-football-championship-article-1.1533560
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