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Discussion: 2nd batch 27 Barrage

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March 17, 2014
Tri18
625 posts
2nd batch 27 Barrage
Guys,
Got in another shipment of Barrages Friday so I pulled out a 27 and headed over to the field today. I ended up getting about 78 swings on it today and it performed admirably. After the session I examined the bat carefully and found no wear or marks on the bat. Performance was what you expect from a Barrage....wide open after 10-15 swings. I will say the barrel flex felt slightly stiffer than the first ones we hit with which I'm sure is a result of the proper layup in construction this time. We will see how the bat continues to hit but for now....it's all good.

Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
Tricoach18@att.net
March 18, 2014
hemi racer
Men's 65
83 posts
Morning Alan, do rate the Barrage better,same,or less when it comes to pop as compared to the Ambush and Melee?
March 18, 2014
Tri18
625 posts
Hemi,
That's a great question....to not be too technical I'll do my best.
The Barrage gets to high performance levels as quick or quicker than just about any senior bat right now. Ie....break in is very easy to accomplish. This can be VERY valuable to some older players or players without as much strength or bat speed as they can still get the Barrage to respond quickly and be game ready. So....even though the Barrage is not a highly durable bat for heavier hitters a majority of its lifespan is spent at high performance levels. Some other bats may last longer but you still may only get 200-250 swings on them at high levels before they break. The Barrage may not be for all people but it's certainly a senior bat worth considering.

To your original question....the Barrage gets hotter quicker than the Ambush or the MeLee but both of those bats usually catch up to those levels a few more hits down the line. At that point which is the better bat?, ,! Another good question....the Ambush usually outlasts both the MeLee and the Barrage and has a larger hitting area if that is of importance to you! To sum it up....all 3 of these bats being discussed are in the top echelons of senior bats. Take the one that FEELS best to you when you swing it and that's a good choice. At that point...it's the batters self confidence in what he is swinging that makes him a .500 hitter or a .700 plus hitter.

Alan Tanner
Chevy still rules
Tricoach18@att.net
March 18, 2014
hemi racer
Men's 65
83 posts
Thanks Alan, good information for all levels of senior players. Sounds like the Ambush like I have is the one for me. Also sounds like you talked yourself out of a sale, at least for now anyway.
March 19, 2014
Tri18
625 posts
Hemi,
As long as you got informed and made your best choice for you....I'm good with it! I try to put out good info so you guys can make a proper bat choice. Then again,,,, some guys like to try all the new equipment to see what works for them . Anyway....today I was back at the field with the 27 Barrage. I got to just over 200 hits and the good news is the bat is fine and continues to hit. I'll keep at it and see how it goes but this is the longest any 27 has lasted and no first batch came close to this...
Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
March 20, 2014
PoollShark
11 posts
Thanks Alan, I just received 2 27's from the 2nd batch, I'm also going to grab a Combat. I took one of the 27's to an indoor batting cage Sunday and although I couldn't judge distance in the cage it was very obvious that the ball jumps off this bat.
In your opinion which Combat is hotter, the Ambush or the Centenarian?
March 20, 2014
Tri18
625 posts
The Ambush will generally break in quicker and get to higher levels of performance up and down the bat. It's hard to find any senior bat that handles miss hits as well as the Ambush does while delivering consistent performance.
Alan Tanner
561-718-7504
March 20, 2014
olie04
Men's 50
46 posts
The Ambush I have is the worst senior bat I have ever had. It is similar to any USSSA bat in distance. It does have very good durability. I bought one the first year they came out. It never performed as advertised. It has never broken and is a practice bat only. I would never use it in a game. My experience with this bat is I have a dud. Very small sweet spot. I play Major Plus 50 and have never seen someone swinging an Ambush during a game.
Olie Oliverson
GSC 50 Major Plus.
March 20, 2014
swing for the fences
Men's 50
1003 posts
this is going be good! ;-)
March 21, 2014
hemi racer
Men's 65
83 posts
This last comment about the Ambush is reinforcement that different strokes for different folks apply. Don't know way you 50's major plus guys are concerned about distance anyway, you can hit them out with any bat. As for us 65+ guys the Ambush preforms great.
March 21, 2014
olie04
Men's 50
46 posts
Distance,speed of the ball being hit through holes,gaps in the outfield,anyway you want to put it, the Ambush I have is a dud. I am just passing this info on for others to be aware of. My original posts on this bats performance were written over a year ago. Nothing has changed. I am glad there is an application for this bat in senior softball, for me having it compared to and used in the same sentence as other top performing senior bats is a marketing ploy by those who do. Once again for those who will take my post as an attack, this is regarding MY experience with MY Ambush.
Thank you. Olie Oliverson
GSC 50 Major Plus 801-682-2151
March 21, 2014
hemi racer
Men's 65
83 posts
Fare enough Olie. In no way was I trying to be negative about your comments, just expressing my experience with them also. If everybody's needs where the same there wouldn't be but one bat.
March 21, 2014
Softballer48
Men's 65
23 posts
Buyer Beware: I purchased a supposedly "2nd batch" 26oz Barrage
as previously noted in this forum; and was pleased. Guess what?
It CRACKED at 121 hits along the barrel just like the originals did. I say no more; but you can guess how I feel about this 2nd batch hype at this time.
March 22, 2014
Lefty
Men's 65
478 posts
There's nothing special about my ambush. Doesn't hit any better than any of the combats or other senior bats I have. I bought a 28oz. Barrage about 80 break end swings on it and it has 6 inches of spider webbing at the end. Game ready and hope it last longer than my next tourney in Caretersville.
March 24, 2014
injun
2 posts
I've been swinging 28oz end loaded Ambush bats for the last two years and they have given me the best compromise between performance and durability. I get about 250 cuts out of the Ambush before it cracks but it performs very well for me. It might seem like 250 swings out of bat is terrible but it is a senior bat and I can live with that.

I am in now way associated with Combat or even know Alan Tanner, I am just stating my experience with the Combat Ambush. I am sure the bat is not for everybody but as far as I'm concerned it's a pretty hot bat with decent (I use the term loosely becasue it's a senior bat) durability.

Regards,
Sergio Valdez
March 24, 2014
Fabe
Men's 50
220 posts
I have been swinging the Ambush since 2012 n have enjoyed doing it! Broke my first after 500 hits. Alan has been nothing but a professional when dealing with my softball needs! Aloha, Fabe
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