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April 15, 2014
Locoengineer
22 posts
cor and compression
I am seeing more and more balls with a 52/300 designation vs 44/375. My question is which ball hits better?
April 15, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
What is your definition of "better"?
April 15, 2014
Locoengineer
22 posts
Good question Bruce. A ball that hits more true with less knuckle and a greater distance.
April 15, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
I would think most, if not all 44/375's would out distance the 52's.
I've always heard to get maximum distance out of the 52s you must cut the ball. If you cut it you won't hit any knuckle balls.
April 15, 2014
wagon487
Men's 50
524 posts
the 44/375 is the better ball......always......
April 15, 2014
Mark 44
Men's 60
56 posts
There is no question in my mind, the 44/375 ball is far superior to the 52/300 pillow. We play in a 50+ USSSA league that uses the 52/300 ball. Nobody, I repeat NOBODY likes that ball. If I had my way, we'd all go back to using single wall aluminum bats & use either a red or blue dot ball. Then the true home run players will show up.
April 16, 2014
tscs000
Men's 55
13 posts
Depends on the ball manufacturer and model of ball you are using. We've been using the Worth hot dot in ASA local league for the last 3 seasons. They travel with no problem and stay hard in the heat, not like the Worth gold dots we used previously. The hot dots do knuckle more than the gold dot ever did. I've had no problem hitting the hot dot. If you're playing in any heat what so ever, my choice would be the hot dot vs the gold dot.
April 16, 2014
ffdonnie
Men's 50
95 posts
IF we had to use them (hope not), how do the Dudley 52/300 compare to Worth? Anyone know?
April 16, 2014
Omar Khayyam
999 posts
We have been playing with the Dudley 52/300 in league play and then for batting practice the next day before league play. So far, the Dudleys hold up real well. Sometimes a ball that's been hit for a couple of months of batting practice will be tossed in when the game ball is over the fence. Still firm, some sheen to its cover, and hits about the same. One consideration, though, our league play is in the mornings so we don't have much experience with temps over 65 so far.

Ball hits well for true sluggers. They notice little drop-off. Also works well for those few who cut the ball. Regular hitters notice the drop off in distance with the 52/300. We went to it for safety since our league has a wide age range. No one's complained yet, in fact some didn't even notice the different ball, and boomers are happy as long as they can hit the long ball now and then.

I agree with wagon487 that the 44/375 is the better ball and flies farther and the Baden Fire holds up well in the heat of a tournament afternoon. Of course, there are many who would rather see the game dimensions reduced to the vast majority of parks available, returning to the old days when a home run was rare and earned and not due to hot balls or bats. Sadly, a lot of those guys no longer play and thus part of the drop off in senior players considering the booming size of the over-50 male population.
April 16, 2014
tg69
309 posts
Heaven forbid if they make a ball that if you MISHIT it , it wont go out of the ballpark.OOOOW
April 17, 2014
Garocket
Men's 55
157 posts
Yea it is amazing how many guys once they start senior ball and can hit with a Ulta II go get tattoos and put earings in so they think they can impress someone when they hit a homerun. Actually if you can't het a homerun with these bats it is strictly because you do not try.
I applaud they guys that play the game the way it was meant to be played. Hitting base hits and moving the runners over.

Most of you know what the SB12 was. If you could hit that ball out of a 285 or 290 fence, then you could crow.

On a 285 fence, most of the times in an unlimited homerun game you only saw 1 or 2 homeruns a game.

An SB12 with a 38once Bombat was when the game was pure. You played defense and played softball the way it was intended.

I agree with tg69 with the balls and bats we use today if you don't hit it over the light poles it should only count as a double LOL

Fairchild could hit a sock out with a broom stick
April 19, 2014
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
Garocket-great points. Yes, Bruce could hit anything out! Bruce-how is your rehab going? And, did you really get tats and earrings?? LOL
I remember the SB12 well. We went to Phoenix for a tourney that used it once and only 1 team hit double figures the whole tourney and I think there were 2 shutouts. If you hit .600 with it you were really good. That goes a bit the other way.
Mark44-I wouldn't argue a bit with the single walls and blue dots-that was even starting to get hot back then. And no mis-hit hrs either. But this is a hitters game and I see nothing wrong with seniors enjoying the power in the last years of their careers. We are all blessed to be playing-I still love every second of it.
April 19, 2014
mad dog
Men's 60
3937 posts
THE 52 BALL IS GOOD TO GO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED....WE HAVE BEEN USING IT THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH NO COMPLAINTS......BALLS GET HIT OUT ALL THE TIME FROM THE BIG BOYS......WHAT I HAVE SEEN THO,IS SOME OF THE REGULAR (BASEHITTER TYPE)GUYS GET SOME DISTANCE FROM THIS 52 BALL COMPARED TO THE 44.....
TO ME IF IT IS ABOVE 85/90 DEGREES I'LL TAKE THE 52 OVER THE 44'S..UNLESS IT IS AN ILLEGAL MCT BALL..WHICH VEGAS USES........
OK AS FOR BETTER BALL
1-AD STARR TATTOO
2-DUDLEY
3-TRUMP/EVIL
4- WORTH HOT DOT
April 19, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
Thanks for the props Garocket.
Webbie, my knee is much better, maybe 90%. Now we need a tournament to play in.
April 19, 2014
Webbie25
Men's 60
1983 posts
90% great! I know you aren't coming to Vegas, but maybe I will see you in Dalton. I played my first tourney last weekend-DH only-limited to no running-but hit solidly all 10 at bats for the first time in a couple years. The knee really felt strong.
Good luck to you!
April 19, 2014
Mark 44
Men's 60
56 posts
Biggest Crap Ball that I have ever played with. There isn't one person in our league that likes them......
April 20, 2014
4x4
Men's 65
595 posts
Yes - Bruce can....he puts in a lot of time refining his swing....

But now - none of his socks match.......
April 21, 2014
Garocket
Men's 55
157 posts
I heard the sock story one year when a old man by the name of Andy West. They were hitting the Dave Carrol balls out by 75 feet and the other team was complaining about the balls they were hitting. This was a open tournament with all younger guys playing. Andy was completley grey headed at the time was hitting them futher than anyone. He told the pitcher to take off his socks and pitch them to him and he would hit them out. Well to say the least both teams got a laugh out of that. But I think both teams belived him. LOL
April 21, 2014
Graphite
20 posts
Bruce had to hit to stay up with that bunch from Rehoboth!
April 21, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2665 posts
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