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Discussion: Illegal player

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April 30, 2014
Mario
Men's 50
372 posts
Illegal player
SSUSA what happens when a team uses a player that has not yet turned the age of the bracket said team is in. For example , what if a guy is 49 and plays for a 50 and over team. I know you can play if you turn in the same year, but what if the player just turned 49 and then he and the team gets caught? What happens to the player and team?
May 1, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2629 posts
Dale, I believe 10 or 15 years a team was caught with under aged players and the players and maybe the managers were suspended. I don't remember the duration of the suspension.
May 1, 2014
SSUSA Staff
1161 posts
In 2008, a team at the Atlantic Coast Championships attempted to use an underage illegal player (younger brother playing under his older brother's identity) ... The player was denied participation upon that discovery ... The manager and the team (since disbanded voluntarily) were suspended for the balance of that season and the player received a lifetime ban from Senior Softball ... Last year, the player sought an appeal of that suspension, and the appeal was denied ...
May 1, 2014
taits
Men's 65
4334 posts
This is one reason I highly favor viewable rosters. If a player planning on going to an event can check competitions roster he might notice some irregularity.
This happened just last month in NCSSA. For some strange reason after YEARS of open rosters when they have been caught, it was changed, wonder why. Not really.
A player in same bracket switched teams and played but I was told by a board member it's up to the teams to notice it and complain. Thought that was part of the area reps job & person putting on the event to do that ahead of time. With open rosters you have a better chance of it being noticed, BTW one of those teams won that division.
May 2, 2014
17Black
Men's 50
219 posts
I agree, having the ability of being able to view team rosters "could be" a bonus, and allow some guys to help "police" tournaments.

BUT-------It could also be bad for SSUSA if every vigilante starts calling the home office with roster complaints though. It might be needed but might not be practical, and would take up a LOT of time.

People are still people and some will cheat. I've heard of guys borrowing other players ID cards for a weekend, and if I'm a betting man there are "likely" younger guys playing in age divisions all over the place in all softball associations.

Other guys probably are locked on somebody's roster and show up at another tournament on a different roster/same age division/same year. Nobody knows everybody, and ID's at most tournaments I've been too are only checked before the first game---------------and it is certainly not like going through airport security either with guys trying to match photo's to the face in most cases.

Maybe we all need microchips inserted under our skins :)
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