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Discussion: MIKEN TRIAD BLACKOUT SEHIOR BAT

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June 1, 2014
Hondaf2003
Men's 50
4 posts
MIKEN TRIAD BLACKOUT SEHIOR BAT
I bought my Blackout back in February and I have hit it since in tournaments and in practice. In my opinion it is as broken in as its going to get and still their is little difference if any the my Miken Triad Maxload ASA. In the interim I have swung other bats that teamates have let me use and have been truly impressed. The number one being the Miken UltraII and to a lesser extent with Miken Ultra II Maxload. Both are superior bats and are hands down better than the Blackout. My three month warranty just expired in May 2014 and have already ordered my own UltraII; 34/29. Don't get me wrong , its a nice bat but its NO Ultra II. If I could sell it I would, but after 3 months it would be too much of a loss.
June 1, 2014
hemi racer
Men's 65
80 posts
Evening Hondaf, are you referring to performance only or overall fell, swing weight,etc.?
June 1, 2014
Hondaf2003
Men's 50
4 posts
Actually the bat feels tremendous in your hands; the handle, the weight28oz), the two pieces, etc. I changed the grip to the lizard skin making it feel even better. The performance is honestly no better than the same bat with the new ASA logo; I have both as I still play ASA. I can't say that it needs to be broken-in, as I have many, many cuts on it. It just doesn't have the same distance as the Ultra II. I liked the Ultra II so much I immediately bought one to be my game bat.
June 1, 2014
AJC
29 posts
Hey Honda, while I have no doubt you will be more than happy with the balanced one piece Ultra II, the question will be durability. Just speaking from my own experiences with this bat, ( I also had a few 29oz.) it is very fragile. I would only use it in batting practice at first for no more than 30-40 swings then keep it in the bag except for tourney ball. No more bp after that.

I hope it lasts you !
June 2, 2014
hemi racer
Men's 65
80 posts
The ultra ll has been the standard of performance for quite a while, but they did have durability problems. One of our heavy hitters usually went through at least two a year. In reading blogs and talking to dealers like Alan I think they have addressed those problems with the new TOC(medium end load) and Big Mike's bat(heavy end load), while still retaining top performance. Just my opinion from an average Joe.
June 2, 2014
AJC
29 posts
Hey Hemi, I was speaking only about the durability of the one piece balanced Ultra II that Honda had purchased. I agree with you the newer 2 pieces seem more durable. This year I've been using the 2 piece Max Load which I got from Alan ( not that that matters ) but have been very happy with it. It already has about 130 swings on it and is holding up well. I'm sure the TOC and Big Cat would hold up as well as the Max Load. Alan would be a better source as far as info on durability since i do not have either of those 2 bats. I agree the Ultra II is the most popular bat for teams 55 and older, just look in the dugouts. For 50 ' s teams, there are quite a mix of bats and a lot fewer black Ultra II'S than the older divisions and it is primarily due to lack of durability. IMHO
June 2, 2014
AJC
29 posts
To make the above statement more correct, I should add that the majority of 55 teams as well have less of a percentage of players using the one piece Ultra II than the 60 and above players. For the 50 and 55 teams, in the dugouts seem to be more Reeboks, DiMarini, Combats and 2 piece Ultras.
June 2, 2014
hemi racer
Men's 65
80 posts
Got you now, understand and agree. Probable right on the young folks, love to watch them but haven't paid much attention to their bats. Thanks for post.
June 2, 2014
Hondaf2003
Men's 50
4 posts
Thx to all posts. Looking forward to getting my new 34/29 Ultra II. Playing in a FLHC SOFTBALL later on in June in West Palm Beach. Will have bat broken-in hopefully and not just broken.
June 30, 2014
Tri18
608 posts
Hey guys,
All of you put up some good information. The Triad Blackout is definitely a workhorse...no doubt among the top 3 senior bats in durability. It is not a hot out of the wrapper bat and has to be hit on extensively to get into acceptable senior bat performance levels. Don't give up on it just keep hitting it more than you ever have with a senior bat. Generally speaking it won't deliver the top performance you get in a relatively short time compared to the TOC limited edition or the new Big Cat. Both of these bats will really deliver in 75/100 swings and change personality from there. The 2 piece max load and the black 1 piece break in quickest of all and don't take long to get the ball moving quickly and...far! Mikens 2 piece balanced will take a bit more work,,,,usually 100 swings and sometimes 125 to reach good performance levels. This should give you some idea on break in for the Miken lineup this year. I have them all and hit with them extensively so if you have questions feel free to call me at 561-718-7504. I will be at the field breaking some in for clients tomorrow!

Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
July 1, 2014
0
56 posts
So why would I waste my time and money with the Triad Blackout (90 day warranty) when a good USSSA bat breaks in just as fast or faster and has a 1 year warranty?
July 1, 2014
Tri18
608 posts
0,
You bring up a good question. The Senior Blackout may not be for everyone but their really isn't one size fits all in senior bats. It may not be the answer for you but for a guy who breaks a lot of senior bats this could save him a lot of money over time. The big thing for you and everyone to consider is this: am I willing to give up some bat performance by using a USSSA bat that gives me a year warranty or do I assume the risk of a shorter lifespan with better performance? Remember, the Triad maybe isn't quite as hot as several senior bats but does eventually get to that level later on in life and it will outperform a overwhelming majority of USSSA bats. My experience in selling thousands of bats in senior, USSSA, and ASA models tells me probably less than 5% of senior tournament players use a USSSA or ASA bat instead of a senior model. So, hopefully this information can help guys make the best choice for their situation. If you need help please contact me.

Alan Tanner
Team 1 Sports
Tricoach18@att.net
July 7, 2014
E6 in AZ
Men's 50
5 posts
I am new (turning 50 next month) to Senior Softball and bought the Miken Ultra II, only to break it within 40 days. No cage work and only hitting league balls. This bat was smoking hot right out of the wrapper.
I purchased the Blackout due to the immediate "jump" of the Ultra II and also the 90 days warranty. The Blackout was not hot right away but is getting there, and so far is holding together nicely.
Truth is, I am a fan of the Miken product and am looking to get a fastpitch bat from them.
Just my 2 cents.
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