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Discussion: Combat Red 10inch EL

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July 31, 2014
ALLPRO
42 posts
Combat Red 10inch EL
Is the Senior Red Combat 10inch barrel that was released several years ago (BPF 1.20) legal to use in Senior Softball?

I have heard that it was never approved by SSUSA. Is this true?
July 31, 2014
Wes
Men's 65
311 posts
I had one when they came out best bat I ever hit with lost it had 1.20 stamp on it which made it legal---I would like buy one 30oz if you know someone that has one
Wes
July 31, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2667 posts
Yes, they are approved by senior softball. I have a 28 and it is a great bat!
July 31, 2014
twins25
19 posts
I have 2 28 EL, got them from Kevin at Anaconda when they first came out, Kevin was in Carson City in 2007 and there was a hitting exhibition with these bats and bats were very impressive. Mine are still in great shape and well broken in. Would love to find another.
Aug. 1, 2014
tattooball
621 posts
If you thought that one was good, just wait. I have one that will be out very soon that blows it away.
Aug. 1, 2014
ALLPRO
42 posts
Thanks for the responses, but I would like one from SSUSA. The people who think this bat is "illegal" are SSUSA umpires. Thanks!
Aug. 1, 2014
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2667 posts
It sounds as if the SSUSA umpires are misinformed. Did they give a reason?
Aug. 1, 2014
ALLPRO
42 posts
Yes, they are adamant that it has never been approved by SSUSA.
Aug. 1, 2014
SSUSA Staff
1284 posts
Prior to 2014, bats were NOT specifically approved by SSUSA ... They were deemed LEGAL for use if they carried the BPF=1.20 (older) or BPF=1.21 (newer) specification compliance labeling or engraving ... There was, and remains, a very short "unapproved bats" list that lists the original Miken Ultra (aka Ultra-I), the Yellow Rip-It, the red Canadian ComBat manufactured under license for SPN, and the Blue Boombah that was labeled BPF=1.205 ...

For bats manufactured after 2013, there is an approved bat list IN ADDITION TO all of the pre-2014 bats which were "grandfathered in" for continued use ... Any umpire who was adamant that the bat was never approved for SSUSA use is technically correct, but functionally incorrect because specific approval was not required so long as the bat met the BPF compliance labeling criteria ...

Aug. 2, 2014
ALLPRO
42 posts
I presume then, that this is the "Red Canadian Combat" referred to in the SSUSA response and therefore IS ILLEGAL for use in SSUSA events!
Aug. 2, 2014
SSUSA Staff
1284 posts
We make no presumption, not having seen the bat ... This bat was a very limited production run, something in the order of 335 TOTAL bats manufactured, and more than a few years ago ... If it has the SPN logo/markings, it may well be the specifically prohibited bat, but that's something we cannot determine with any degree of certainty now ...
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