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Discussion: Someone Rank the Top Teams in Each Division for me.

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Nov. 6, 2006
audieh
Men's 60
240 posts
Someone Rank the Top Teams in Each Division for me.
Since the year is about over, which team is the number one in each of the major divisions? What are your thoughts for the top five teams in each of the divisions? Is there any end of the year official ranking of teams other than just saying what division they play in? Who is the best 50 major plus team, or 55 major plus or 60 AAA, etc. has anyone keep up with all of the tournaments and has a supported opinion?
Nov. 6, 2006
jrhunch
85 posts
50,s aaa-1-coors light 2-carriage homes adrian twist max spice #11
Nov. 7, 2006
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
226 posts
We had 3 very good AAA teams in Michigan last year: Geckle Builders (should be a major team), Pinnacle Planning (finished second to Max spice in Vegas) and Detroit Jaguars (won NSA Worlds). I think the Jags and Geckle will be moving to Majors next year.
Nov. 7, 2006
Gene22
Men's 55
78 posts
Hey Chuck:

I would not consider any team from that state up north for anything. Leaving for Ft. Myers. Will talk to you soon. Henne is related to me. Joe don't need two legs to coach.

Your Ohio State buddy.

Gene
Nov. 7, 2006
jrhunch
85 posts
pinnacle out of michigan was also a good team but were way better human beings.nicest team i played against since murphy law
Nov. 8, 2006
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
226 posts
JR
Thanks for the compliment, we also enjoyed playing you guys. Good team and alot of fun. Thought your pitcher was a little over the top but after the game had a good conversation with him and he is also a good guy!! Good luck next year, you guys will compete well in Major division.

Chuck #8 (Catcher)
Pinnacle Planning
Nov. 8, 2006
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
226 posts
JR
Thanks for the compliment, we also enjoyed playing you guys. Good team and alot of fun. Thought your pitcher was a little over the top but after the game had a good conversation with him and he is also a good guy!! Good luck next year, you guys will compete well in Major division.

Chuck #8 (Catcher)
Pinnacle Planning
Nov. 8, 2006
jrhunch
85 posts
chuch i was hoping that with your rochester connection you would show some mercy and not hit the ball at me when i had to play second in the last game.please feel free to go the otherway with it the next time we play you.peepa is a great pitcher and a good guy but he doesnt always play with a full deck.this was his second touney with us and i am and will keep on working with him.until the next time stay safe
Nov. 8, 2006
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
226 posts
Jr, that didn't stop you from making a diving catch and throwing me out on your back!!!! I still don't believe that last game was 8-5, when we both averaged 20+ runs a game till then!!
Nov. 8, 2006
jrhunch
85 posts
chuck it was fatique.we had 3 guys go down and our 2 mikens break.you had just won 2 games in the last inning.mentally draining.we were lucky to have 18 players.the extra runners helped us.tired swings lead to easy outs.both teams last games were their worst,we were just more lucky.good luck and stay safe.if the spa has the torney in cleveland in may like they did last year maybe we will cya there
Nov. 8, 2006
audieh
Men's 60
240 posts
The Michigan Vet posted a good summary. Just looking at the 50 major plus list I would rate this category as follows:
1) Kelly's, CA
2) Conn. Sportsplex
3) Mavericks, CA
4) Randy Smith
5) Pine Knob. Mi
6) Damons, Md

Travel Lodge was by far the number 1 team I saw in Major ball. I would assume that next year they will be in the major plus division. How about some of you major plus players giving your opinions of rankings and some of you major and AAA players. Maybe we can come up with a mythical champion for the year in each category!
Nov. 9, 2006
Michigan Vet
Men's 55
226 posts
I will take a stab at it after looking at all tourny's:
Just a guess - do not get mad!!!!!

Major+
1 Kellys sports
2 Conn Sports Plex
3. Pine Knob
4. Ca Thunder
5. Randy Smith

Major
1 Travel Lodge Bears
2 Road Dogs
3 Angle Inn
4 Sweet Const
5 Lewis rental

AAA
1 Coors Light
2 Four Seasons
3 Max Spice
4 TNT Sports
5 Triangle Cobras
Nov. 9, 2006
andy25
Men's 50
17 posts
Played 50 Major all year, all the championships except ASA. In my opinion Angle Inn was the best until they moved up. My ranking:
1. Angle Inn
2. Road Dogs
3. Roberts Construction
4. Milwaukee Merchants
5. Travel Lodge
Other tough teams included Kittrell Acoustics, Florida Sluggers, The Titans, Seven Softball and the Old Dawgs.
It's very diificult to rank teams because of formats and geographics, some teams are better with the 5 run rule while others are better at regular rules. Some teams travel to all the main events, some only play the local ones. Since I play for Sweet Construction of NJ I didn't rank my own team, we finished 3rd three times this year so we belong in there somewhere. Since there are no national tournaments in the northeast, we have to travel, it was a pleasure to play against all you guys this year and if I left out anyone's team that kidded our butt, I APOLOGIZE. Ridge and Terry run great tournaments, but Plano and Seattle, these plane rides are killing me.
Andy Snyder # 25
Sweet Construction
Nov. 9, 2006
the wood
1071 posts
in the 55 major +...
I look at the best events and see who played the best against the best... I my view, the best events this year were SPA (6 teams), LVSSA (6 teams), SSWS (6 teams) and SSWC (4 teams)... not necessarily in this order.
As was stated p[reviously by others, there are rule differences... Lot of HRs v. minimal HRs... 5 run/7 run innings v. no max run innings... ASA bats/balls v. Ultra 2s.
Over the past year + the best team in the 55 major + division has been Turn Two. But after September it has been CT Sportsplex. They won 2 of the best events (SSWS & LVSSA), took second in SPA and didn't go to SSWC. TT won SPA, took 2nd in LVSSA, 4th in SSWS and didn't go to SSWC. FL took 3rd in LVSSA and didn't play in the other 3 but did win ISA (only 2 teams). GSF won SSWC, took 2nd in SSWS (double dipped by CT), third in SPA and was a very long Concorde flight from seeing the last day in LVSSA (didn't do well).
Therefore, this is how I would rate the teams at the end of the year...
1) CT, 2) TT, 3) GSF, 4) FL ,5) Grimes (3rd in both SSWS & SSWC), 6) Mission Texas...
TT could argue that it won several more events in the southeast... FL could say that it beat GSF both times they played... and there are several other 55 major + teams that we only saw once (Handeland Flooring, Korba, Amer Metal Recycl and Academy Sports).
LVSSA was the only event that all of the top 6 (IMO)attended. It would be great if somehow we could arrange to repeat this in several venues next year.
Nov. 9, 2006
turn2
484 posts
Bob,
That was a very good assement of the 55 major plus teams,Sal and his Conn. boys had our number at the end of the year.Turn Two/ Rekco had a great year and we enjoyed playing and talking to all the diff. teams this year.Hopefully we can get better so we can compete w/ all of the strong 55 teams out there.
see you in 07
donnie
turn two collectibles
Nov. 9, 2006
stanley
Men's 60
15 posts
I will give Sweet Construction some props. I played in Seattle and saw Sweet play and they are superb. Could have easily won it. Maybe the best power of all the 50 major teams. All the major teams seemed pretty damn close as did the 55's.
Nov. 10, 2006
the wood
1071 posts
Donnie:
TT had a very good run from June '05- Aug '06. We (GSF) felt that (going into '05) if we could get past the Old A's we'd be in tall cotton. As soon as did, there was TT... and you left bodies all over the place last year... so to speak.
Aside from September of '06, you have been the dominant 55 team over 05-06. So the part about you 'getting better'?
Every team has a down cycle but I'm sure that yours won't last long.
We need to get better and we feel that we're taking the steps to do so. It has taken us too long to realize that talent alone doesn't produce consistent results. As the mgr, I have to accept that this was my fault.
Anyway, we hope that TT will still be in the 55 division next year. We like the challenge of playing you and we like your players. Good luck to you.
BW
Nov. 10, 2006
turn2
484 posts
Bob,
Thanks for the kind words about our team.You guys made a great improvement from the year before.GSF is a very good team along with the other 55 teams out there. At this age it gets very hard to find quality ball players to make you team better each year.
So good luck and until we meet again. Have a safe off season.
thanks,
donnie

turn two collectibles
Nov. 12, 2006
Mango
Men's 50
80 posts
As far as the major division goes. I played with the Road Dogs in 11 tournaments this year. We won 10 of those tournaments including the California Cup, The Western Worlds in Reno, The World Series in Seattle in Sept., The National Championship Game, The World Series in Palm Springs, and were Triple Crown Winners. We qualified for the Florida Tournament of Champions I believe 5 times. Needless to say we played some very good teams throughout the year.

Unfortunately I wasnít with the Road Dogs in Las Vegas for that last World Series so I didnít get to see Travelodge. So I canít really comment on their team. I would have liked to see them at some of the other big tournaments. Of the teams I did see and we saw plenty of good ones, I would rate them as follows (leaving Road Dogs out):

1. Sweet Construction (They crushed a couple of teams in Seattle)
2. Roberts (good balanced club Ė defense, hitting, power& most importantly nice guys)
3. Milwaukee Merchants Ėagain another balanced team.

Mango #33
Road Dogs
Nov. 13, 2006
Robo2
214 posts
I play for Sweet Construction. Although I feel we are a very good team, we lack consistency on Sundays. I had such hopes, as I'm sure as did many teams, of winning a National Championship this year, but it did not pan out.

One thing I will say. About 90% of us play together in leagues and we formed our team out of friendshps. I hope that will remain even though some are moving to 55s next year.

The team was managed by Michael Boone and Andy Snyder. Any of you the know these individuals would agree that they are both gentlemen and have a great deal of repect for the sport and for the other teams.

I also must say the it is a delight to play on the national level and seeing many of the same guys each year. Great sportmanship and great competition.

Wishing you all a great off season and hope to see you next year.

Joe Lobman
Sweet Construction
Nov. 16, 2006
audieh
Men's 60
240 posts
Should we look at the future winners of the Tournament of Champions in Polk County, Florida in February of 2007 as the previous years mythical champion in each category or will the winners just be the champion of that tournament? Are the northern teams affected by the February date compared to the southern teams playing year round? I know at a recent tournament in Ft. Meyers I was told that some Ploog players indicated that there were 4 indoor facilities to hit at in Minneapolis. Is this common for the big northern cities such as Chicago?
Nov. 16, 2006
Robo2
214 posts
Personally, I use the off season to work out with weights. Yes, I also go to indoor hitting. Also, whenever possible I go out to hit with a freind. Last year, the two of us went out on several occassions on decent days (above 40 degree) with about 100 balls and pitched to each other and then walked out to pick them up.

No excuses. We deal with it.

Best of luckk to all the teams.

See you next season.

Joe L
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