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Discussion: Ulta II replacement?

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Jan. 15, 2007
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
Ulta II replacement?
My U2 finally gave up the ghost and I want to buy to buy another bat for the tournaments where the U2 is legal.I\'ve heard that the new U2s have no waranty and that they only last about 100 to 200 hits. What is my best alternative. I\'ve read that the Combat Original da bomb is very comperable and is more durable. Can anyone help me out with this? Thank
Jan. 15, 2007
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
If you can wait a couple of weeks the new Rip-It Ripper will be out and based on the performance of the Senior ASA model I would think that it would a suitable replacement for the U2.
Jan. 15, 2007
jah#4
Men's 55
551 posts
hombre
I agree with Fred I have hit the New yellow Rip it . It has good pop and seem like it is durable The one we are swinging has 400 to 500 swings. I don't think it as good as the U2 but about the same as the combat
Don Ward
Jan. 15, 2007
koived
41 posts
The yellow one is not legal anywhere thats why I got a combat. My new u-2 advanced broke in 50 swings so I am sticking with the combat. I think it hits as well as the u-2 but hasen;t broken yet with 500-700 swings on it. I was hoping the new u-2 would be durable.
Jan. 15, 2007
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
Thanks everyone, I appreciate the feedback. I was breaking in a new Rip-It (black - Senior) the day the UII broke. The Rip-It is a really nice ASA bat, but with about 100 hits, it's still a long way from the UII.
There are a number of Combat models out. Is any one of them any better than the others. Which one has the most pop. Thanks, again
Jan. 15, 2007
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2584 posts
I have a Rip-It ASA bat with around 100 swings on it and it is still a long way from a Mayhem 98!
Jan. 15, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Jim,
I say my Combat 28 oz EL hits as well and feels better
than my Ultra 2.
It has around 400 swings on it and has just gotten
ridiculous in the last 10 or 15.
I would get a 27 or 28 oz EL because they feel end loaded
whereas the 29 and the 30s feel more balanced.
My long ball hitters know that if you want to hit the ball far
end loaded is the way to go.
I'm open to whatever's hot.
I heard this Rip it bat is good.
I'd like to try one.
I been hearing that Worth will be coming out in a month or 2 with its senior bat
and it's supposed to be at least as hot as an Ulra 2.
The more the merrier, I say.
But right now, my bat de jour
is the Combat 28 EL.
I would swing it in a tournament or a home run derby
just the same.
Jan. 15, 2007
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
hombre:

I agree with you on the Black Senior ASA. The one I am talking about isn't out yet and I believe is called the Reaper. It is going to be released on 02/07 and will be Utrip version which I assume will be a lot better than the Black Senior ASA but not quite as good as the Yellow Elite.
Jan. 15, 2007
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
Einstein, exactly what model Combat do you have. There is a Combat Da Bomb original that is end loaded and sells for $199 and there is the 2007 Combat Anti Virus. Thanks
Jan. 15, 2007
pressguy33
39 posts
Hombre,

The Combat SENIOR bat is made for Anoconda sports by Combat. Only legal in SENIOR softball and outlaw leagues.
If you see the Anoconda banner ad on the front page. Click on it.
Jan. 16, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey "Man",
Yes.
As commented on,
my Combat is the Combat made for seniors
that is sold by KellysUltimatesports as well as
right from this website.
I believe it has to have 1.2 BPF on it
to be legal for Senior Softball.
Jan. 16, 2007
oldnslow
19 posts
Hombre,

At the start of this post you mention an interest in the Combat B1 Da Bomb. I have one - first batch - 28 XEL - purchased new from Combat. I've never been able to use it due to playing ASA rules - it has maybe 200 BP AB's on it. I'm looking to sell it for $150 or trade it for a CNT FLEX.

Jan. 17, 2007
tattooball
602 posts
oldnslow,
That is a great bat,but it is not the senior. You may have better luck selling it on the softball boards for younger guys.
Jan. 17, 2007
ritter69
Men's 55
20 posts
oldnslow,

Hey could you email me: rwadamsjr@hotmail.com
or give me a call 317-502-2676. Interested in your Combat Da bomb bat.

Jan. 17, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
I am shocked, here I am a Rip It guy and have not even heard of this new Reeper bat. Hey, homerun Bill, what gives ??
We know the senior ASA bat is the best in it's class but I would like to see this new one.
Rip It - will Bill have this bat to test and maybe at his next clinic, if so, when and where.
Jan. 17, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
It is the new Rip-it and it will come out in Feb. It will be legal in USSSA, NSA, and ISA but not ASA. The bat will come in all weights.
Jan. 18, 2007
cpope
Men's 60
160 posts
What about the yellow Rip It? Will it ever be legal?
Jan. 22, 2007
Hoodini
5 posts
New Miken ultraII: These are the bats they have been selling in the last year with no warranty, They are also selling a special T.O.C. version for $230.00 with no warratny. I just got off the phone with there customer service group, notifing them of the problem with breakage for there new bat. I mention to her that who in there right mind would buy a bat that is sure to break even if you do not have Pop Eye fore arms, She mention to me that they the purchase that purchased the bat to send it back so mthey can evaluate it to see what is caused it to break. She also explained to me that the bat had been redesigned from the original in the area of the lower handle which will change the end load features, this could be the problem, I also mention to bher that unless the people selling these bats tell people to send them back who would know. After talking to her, I still am not convinced they would do anything about the bat, her main issue was that if a person didn't like the bat they would hit up against a tree and send it in for a refund or a new replacement. I hope this sheds some light on the Miken bat situation, Until Miken is ready to change there policy on the ultraII I will never buy another one of there products. P.S. I did buy a senior Combat and the world games and it takes about 200 hits on it to break in, and then it feels, swings, and performs real well to the miken, It's still not a miken people.
Jan. 26, 2007
santo
Men's 55
41 posts
I am currently playing in a senior indoor league outside of Chicago. I have tried almost every bat mentioned above. The Ultra II always had a durability problem, but still swings the best. The Ultra II Advanced does swing better, but it is less durable than the Ultra II. You can still get some remaining Ultra II's but they have increased in price to $279 vs $209 for the advanced. Of all Combats, The Virus swings the best. The Combat Anaconda was close (and maybe not yet broken in), but a close second to the Ultra II and not yet mentioned is the Worth Mayhem Jeff Hall. It hits great, is endloaded and is more durable than both Combats mentioned.
Jan. 26, 2007
koived
41 posts
Santo, I understand that this is just your opinion. I too have swung the bats you list, the best bats are the miken and the combat. I personally like the combat over the miken but that is my opinion, the other bats you have mentioned are not even on the same planet as these two. I also prefer the virus over the other little boys bats that you mentioned. Maybe it is the endload. The jeff hall mayhem only lasted as long as the combat I am still swinging.
Shake your head your eyes may be stuck.
Jan. 27, 2007
santo
Men's 55
41 posts
koived,

I'm interested to hear which combat you like better, the virus, or the b1 dabomb from anaconda?
Jan. 27, 2007
koived
41 posts
I have the anaconda sports bat and it is as good as any ultraII I have ever swung and it is much more durable over 700 swings and no problems yet. I do expect it to break sometime but who knows when. I also have two backups that I bought and broke in for when it does break So far I am very happy with this bat and the people I dealt with at anaconda sports.
Jan. 27, 2007
santo
Men's 55
41 posts
koived,
did you ever swing a virus? if so, how does it compare?
Jan. 27, 2007
koived
41 posts
I also have a virus and anti-virus that I bought from a website in minn. I can't remeber which one? Both of these bats hit the same to me and I think once they are broken in they a comparable to any legal bat out there, freak, synergy, etc. But they are both far less than the anaconda bat.
Jan. 28, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
KOIVED: In the last several months, I have been told the follow' by: Bat Reps, Sporting Good Retailers, a couple of Bat Engineers, & members of SGMA.

"When ASA, came out w/ their 'New' bat standard, it took the Bat Makers, only 6 months to get around ASA's F2219 ASTM test."

"The Bat MFG's, have made the bats' handles just a lil;' smaller. This allows BAT MFG's to product one bat that will past F1890 & F2219 testing."

"As far as COMBAT... the ANTI-VIRUS & VIRUS, r the same bat. Only diff' is their paint job. The ANTI & VIRUS bats r just as good as the SENIOR COMBAT. These 2 bats just take 100 to 200 swings 'to break in.' "

"MIKEN's, 500 Series & 600 Series, r also, the same bat. The 500 SERIES is painted for ASA & the 600 SERIES, is painted for ISA, NSA, & U-TRIP."

One can ask around. I know that this sounds like buffalo.

GOOD LUCK.. In ones bat selection. The STONEMAN...

Jan. 29, 2007
koived
41 posts
Stoneman
I don't know what you are smoking but my virus/anti-virus are no where near the same bats as my senior bat. The virus/anti-virus are the best non senior bat I have but the senior is far superior to both of them.
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