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Discussion: MACHINE THAT TEST BATS...

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March 6, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
MACHINE THAT TEST BATS...
SENIORS: A machine has been made that will test bats. This machine, test a bats compression. As I understand it, it takes about 1/2 hr or so, to teat each bat.

A New EASTON, test @ about 380..... A New U-2 A about 180....... A Senior COMBAT @ about 200..... & so on.

If, bats were tested for just 12 teams (I believe this is the correct #.); it would take about 18 hrs. The cost of these machines is around $3,500.

If, one has several Tournaments going on @ a time...... there will be large cost to buy several machines.

Also, this machine can not tell a bats wall thichness or if, a bat has been shaved or a sleeve has been added. In order to find out if, a bat has been shaved or a sleeve has been incerted, a bat will have to be "opened up."

X-RAY Machines, that Animal Vets hall around, cost about 10K.

ISA has one of these machines. If, u have questions, try E-mail' or call ISA's national office.

GOOD LUCK.......The STONEMAN........
March 7, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
What is\are the numbers a reference to (380, 180, 200)?
Is that a compresion factor ? If so, where do or how, did they come up with it?
March 7, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
What is this supposed to prove anyway?

Most new bats , straight out of wrapper, will most likely not have the same numbers, for what ever thise represent, after say 2-400 hits on them, or being broken in.

ASA started all this shi? with the first bat ban. Ever since them the game has gone south. Ban a bat but then a better bat comes along and is allowed...go figure.
All the while, not allowing back into he game those, that were of inferior design, to get back into the game. That was a mistake. Primary bat there, would be the Freak. I do not believe another bat ever banned was\is as good as that one.
March 7, 2007
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
I think that the purpose of the machine is to pick up shaved bats etc. A shaved bat is going to have more give to it and a bat with a sleeve if It is a tight fit will have less give to it when you depress the barrell.

On another site I seen were USSSA has a machine that is inexpensive and will be at all major tournaments. It was also stated that in 2008 all USSSA bats must have a solid end and not have a removeable end cap. That should cut down on the inexpensive doctoring of bats.
March 7, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
Fred, that makes some scense. Mfg's could still make them the same way as currently done, by having the end caps made of same material as barrel and painting the graphics onto the bat, so that there is no seperation at all, seen. Original Combat C-4 had this. I'm sure others do now as well. any attempt to seperate them should be very obvious.
March 7, 2007
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
I think some are starting to do it. Rip-It has done it on there bats. It has a solid end cap.

Like everything else someone will find a way but it would be complicated and not cheap.
March 7, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
TRAIT: I was given the follow' infor several months ago. Some of the follow' were examples:

New EASTON BATS, tested @ around 380 psi. Used EASTON BATS, tested @ about 340 psi. A new U-2, tested @ about 180 psi. Used U-2, tested @ about 140psi.

I was told that the test' of this Machine, took several yrs. Old bats & new bats were tested. Alumin' & Compositive Bat were tested & that data had been compiled.

As told, each bat takes several minutes 4 this machine to have it's "setting set 4 the diff' brands & makes of bats".

When test' a bat, say 4 example an EASTON: If, a New Easton Bat tested @ 280 psi, than that bat may have been made incorrectly @ the factory or that bat could have been ALTERED.

This is when the bat needs to go back to the factory, to be 'open up'; Inspected, etc.

HOPE THIS HELPS................. The STONEMAN......
March 7, 2007
Stones 1B
Men's 55
52 posts
A Machine...

Yes we have that machine here in Hawaii...
Used to test the compression of bats for ASA play only.
It has in fact cut down on the use of many and I say many Illega/altered bats that are being used.
It works and works well. We put a sticker on the bat and if no sticker, bat can not be used.
Peel off the sticker and the sticker leaves a trace and renders that bat "unapproved" for ASA play.
Only in certain tourney's and leagues. It will be a must for our States.
It's a good thing and positive all around.
March 7, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
stoneman: I take it that the lower the psi the more flex it will, or is supposed to have, Since used bats have more pop, and a used U-2 had the least psi mentioned. Also being the best out there.
Is there a place where one can get the info for the bats that were tested and to be tested in the future?
Thanks Steve.
March 7, 2007
lazer larry
Men's 50
96 posts
Just think how many $ 200-300 bats that the manufactures are selling and if they want to continue to sell them than $ 3,500.00 per machine is nothing. Each bat manufacturer provides 1 per tournament and if you have more than one tourny going on at one time than 2 or three need to be made. I'v been in sale and know markups as much as 2-300% no bull. They can afford this with no problem. If they want to be approved on the bat list, they provide a machine. Look how many bats some guys have and how long they last. Just my 2cents worth. Larry Vogel 1st base Metro Coors Lite
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