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Discussion: South Bend,Ind. Classic results,50+

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June 8, 2004
rabbit
Men's 65
296 posts
South Bend,Ind. Classic results,50+
the Kalamazoo,Michigan Warriors defeated in the bottom of the 7th the Indiana Classics, from Greensburg, Indiana 10-9 to win the 2004 SPA South Bend Classic 50+ division.
3rd place went to Blue Chips from Chicago
4th place went to Indy Masters-Indianapolis
5th place Brickyard Bombers,-Indianapolis

it was one of the few tourneys were al lthe teams were AAA, this week tourney is the SPA tourney in Columbus,Indiana, they have 10 teams in the 50+ division,
June 9, 2004
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
597 posts
Rabbit, congratulations to you and all of the other teams. We would have loved to have been there, but you know the circumstances. I have not hooked up with Dwain, but I do know that the Metro Stars from Louisville are in Columbus, and they are a Major team that we have met up with several times. They did lose all of their games in Indy, but it was a very good bracket of Major and Major Plus. We play them our third game Saturday. Of course we have the pleasure of playing you and the OGs prior to that. Do you know who the other teams are? I also wish you luck in Johnson City as my only memory is of our guys standing at the fence watching teams like Faith Electric jack the ball over.
June 11, 2004
NoMiken
6 posts
Hey Rabbit! Got any idea why a team that is ranked AAA right now in the SPA rankings was allowed to play as a AA team on Saturday, in South Bend? The team that beat you on Sunday, played against us as AA on Saturday, thereby preventing any home runs! For the record, there was another team that was AA when we played them on Saturday.
June 11, 2004
rabbit
Men's 65
296 posts
Hi nomiken, I knew that, when we played them on Saturday they said they were AA and I told them they were rated AAA, they said they didnt know that, i said look on the website, and when we played them in the championship game they said they were AAA then, I know why, because they picked up one of the Jackson Merchants out of Michigan, he is one of thier long ball hitters, since they are probabaly a major team, so they needed to be AAA so in case he hit a home run it would not be a ouit, Thye other team was from Chicago, they did the same thing, trying to play down, the 5 run linning just kills my team more then the home run rule does, and This is the main thing I am getting tired of going to these tourneys, now this week there is a major plus team playing under a differnt name and playing AAA ,I know the reason, they just cant find any place to play, I dont care if they play, but they should not be awarded anything for winning the games or the tourney, when the other teams dont even have a chnce to win.As far as last weekend, the guys running the tourney have no clue and I will not be back there anymore, will travel farther away just to play in a well run tourney .It isnt SPA's fault, just the people running the tourney. Thanks,Rabbit
June 11, 2004
NoMiken
6 posts
Sad story that a team gets to determine their own ranking and then CHANGE IT DURING A TOURNAMENT! There is too much stuff going on with rankings already without the people running the tournaments becoming co-conspirators. Same thing happened last time we played in SB, about 5 years ago. It is no wonder that there were only 5 teams in the 50 & 55 combined! Nice facility, good umps, idiots at the helm!
June 11, 2004
rabbit
Men's 65
296 posts
Right on, this stuff has to stop, it is killing senior softball, and I dont want that to happen, I am very thankfull that I can still play at the level I want too and still enjoy playing, but it is getting frustrated with all the BS.I know my team also gets frustrated, but as ball players we still give it all we got, as I tell them before each tourney, expect the worse and it usually happens in the qualifiers,just play ball, and I will take care of the other stuff, next time you are in a tourney look me up, we are playing in Columbus,IND this weekend and then to Johnson City, Tenn in July, then NSA World in Boaz,Alabama, ISSA Worls in Manassa in August then SPA Nationals in early Sept, in Plano,havent decided about playing in October yet,that is getting late for us ,Rabbit,coach of the Indiana Classics AAA 50+
June 17, 2004
biggflyy53
16 posts
The Kalamazoo Warriors are definitely an AAA team. They have won 2 AA worlds at Vegas in the last 3 years. They probably could play major. The one player that played for the Warriors that hits the long ball does play for Jackson Merchants and rumor has it that he is all "roided" up.
Also, someone should tell the guy from Kalamazoo that got hit with the ball on a double play attempt and was hurt should either slide or get out of the baseline. He definitely was interfering with the play.
June 17, 2004
Nancy Allen
Men's 55
597 posts
I just wanted to add my two cents on a couple of things. South Bend does have a nice facility, but the tournament director, UIC, or whoever does not brief the umpires very well on senior rules. In the years that we have played there, it was basically whatever rules each ump had which were not always the same. We only had one umpire that was incompetent by refusing to get help on a tag at home that they called out. To make a long story short this was the reason that we were not there. I am glad that Rabbit did well as we all got started in senior softball together, and we have traveled all over the country to end up playing his team. We have only ever played the Warriors in South Bend and in their tournament which is their turf. I think that they are a good team, but I would never have put them at the Major level based on our games with them. The only other comment that I have is on the double play because it is one of my pet peeves, and I would have had to seen the play to give my true opinion, but no one should ever come off with a comment about having to slide. At any age sliding is a potential risk, and if you tell them to, and they do and get hurt, then the teller should be liable for the injury. That is why softball rules indicate to avoid contact not sliding. As far as getting out of the way, I really believe that as we get older that we move slower, and it is hard to get out of it as effectively as we used to. I do not believe that anyone wants to be hit with a thrown ball, and if they are not creating interference (throwing up their hands, yelling something at the thrower, etc), I would believe that a senior player may have made an effort. It may have even warranted a warning to the fielder if it seemed to be intentional. Like I said this is subjective because I did not actually see the play. What did the umpire call? I may not agree with you, but I could and do talk softball for hours because of all of the angles. Of course all the talk in the world does not always solve the issues. Good luck.
July 5, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hello
July 5, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hello,i want to add my two cents worth on the guy that got injured in the south bend classic, i am that guy,and if anyone thinks i got in th way on purpose they have got some headworms,the second and shortstop that threwthe ball said to me he was sorry because the balled slipped out of his hand,my teamates said i was clearly was out of the way of the throw,i asure u i dont like to get hit by a hard softball at my age lol,besides it kept me from playing defense in the championship game,but maybe the guy that sad i was in the way has better eyesight than the guy on the other ream that said he was sorry to me,enough on that ,nancy thank you on your comments on u dont think someone in the seniors would on purpose get in the way,and on the sliding, i agree,and u are right on our team we are a good team but not major,but the person that thinks we are a major team also says i was in the way of a throw lmao..chet53
July 18, 2004
biggflyy53
16 posts
chet-by viewing your reply, you must have also been hit in the head as well or are you just Polish.!
I am from the old school and if you are in the baseline or will not get down I'm coming hard to 1st
and I pity the fool (Chet) if you play like Reggie Jackson and purposely get in the way of the ball. You must have scrambled eggs for brains.
Stay safe and enjoy the rest of the summer play.
P.S. Buy a video on sliding, Chet.
July 28, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hey biggfly i guess u did not read my reply unless u are on the team that we played u do not know what your talking about wow did u not read what i said the guy came up to me and said he was sorry the ball slipped out of his hand he did not mean to hit me ...i a wondering if u were on the team that i was playing against,because if u were not u dont know what u are talikng about,the secong baemen is the one who threw the ball at me and said i know u were out of the basepath so if u are on the team ask him your reply is a joke to me i know what happened it kept me out of the championship for crying out loud,,,and also if u ever play against us introduce yourself to me ok,,,my real name is chet and the only chet on the team,,,we are going to play in the shaumberg chicago on august 8 and 9,,,so i hope i get to meet u if not hit the ball hard,,,but keep sliding lol chet
July 30, 2004
biggflyy53
16 posts
Chet- I will also be at Schaumberg on the 7th & 8th and am salivating at putting a ball between your eyes if you dare to stay in the way of my double-play throw.
I suggest you stay home and do something safe like the laundry or putting your make-up on.
If you do show up, I will be scoping the Kalamazoo bench to see if you have moved up to team batboy.
P.S. Bring an ice-pack to soothe that knot on you noggin if you get in the way of an "errant throw."
Aug. 8, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hey big fly where were u, was looking forward to meet u at schamburg u said u were going to come up and see if i made it to waterboy lmao,but just like a fly u were hanging around the bathrooms ,,,flys like it there for some reason ,also the chicago blue chips wanted to meet u because they were the team that i was playing against that day in south bend there was one blue chip ballplayer that said he wanted first crack at u,so we checked the bathrooms and lo behold no fly in the mens,u know the blue chip players said u wont throw one between his eyes or would u because he really waschomping at the bitsto meet u also i said let me meet him first and then u can he made me promise but no fly for 2 days , anyone who says they are going to throw a ball and put it between someones eyes should not be playing the game and if i was your teamate i would not want to play along side u i am not in the game to hurt someone hey also we are having a tourney on august 22 why dont u come and play in kalamazoo,the bluechips might come also we can have a replay of south bend,,,by the way i put my makeup on for u for schamburg but no bigfly for 2 days was very sad u were not there ....but i wonder u was there i bet lmaop. s. stay out of the bathrooms i hear there is some bad shit going around.....wait a minute flys have to eat i forgot sorry!!!!!!!!
Aug. 9, 2004
Brownie
21 posts
Chet, we were at Schaumburg, Roberts Construction and if Biggy was there we kicked their butts for you. Anyone who will throw a ball or threaten to just gives us a little more incentive to beat on.
Aug. 9, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hey brownie thank u for your response,u know i had did not know that many sftball players read the board,but i hada number of players ask who is chet and where is big fly they would say the same thing u are saying they all wanted to neet the biggie fly ,but no fly ,no wonder i think he put one of his wings in his little mouth,hey brownie u know how flyies become flyies they start out as maggots firs lol,,by th way u guys played us ad kicked our buts ,u would of thought big fly was playing with us wow u got a great team and all nice ballplayers ,u guys did not rub it in that u whacked us , thanks again ad good luck the rest of the season,
Aug. 17, 2004
biggflyy53
16 posts
Chet-Great tourney! What, 0-5!
how many strikeouts did you have? That throw to your leg must have hindered your swing for you to keep hitting foul balls for outs!
Tell your "roided" buddy to worry less about a batter's box and more about catching fly balls hit over his head in the outfield.
Your AAA team (ha!) better stay at home instead of going to Vegas in October. To be more specific, you should retire and become a nun!
P.S. If you do decide to come to Vegas, I will buy you a drink (a Shirley Temple), slugger!



Aug. 17, 2004
Rudy
Men's 55
24 posts
Biggflyy53,

What is your problem? You make these comments and threats but don't show up to act on them. What a coward.
Aug. 22, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hey small fly i cant understand why u keep showing how stupid u are on this board can u notread the board,eveyone hear thinks u are so full of shit,but i forgot flyies have to eat,ya we played not to good at schamburg so what but everyone wanted to meet u,also i guess when we won 2 years in a row atvegas we were lucky because we played against bad teams,oh hold it we bought the rings from the real winners,was that u flylike rudy says u are a coward,the roided guy says he wantsto meet u sometime when u are not in the bathrooms,i really think u get offshowing how much of a idiot u are lmao.P.S. if i had your address my dog just took a dump i could send u some food lmao
Oct. 23, 2004
biggflyy53
16 posts
Congratulations on another LVSSA World Championship, Chet.
What is that, 3out of the last 4 years and that organization hasn't moved that Kalamazoo team to a higher division?
There is another name for sandbaggers- CHEATERS!!
Crawl from under your security blanket and play with the big boys.
P.S. My team is looking for a designated runner-interested? In addition maybe your big "sweet" homerun hitter could use some lipstick and rouge during gametime?
Dec. 3, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hey smallfly....how u doing u miss me lmao......hey i thought i got rid of u the other day i got the flyswatter and flaten u i thought how many lives u got ...oh i forgot i can get rid of u but when a dog takes a dump poof there u are lmao...well my team got together and had dinner and we celebrate our rings we got in vegas....mmmmmm lets see i am wondering if u got one of those rings aww u were dodging flyswatters u were busy lol.anyways to your responce on us winning in vegas they put us in AA so bitch to them we are not a AAA team but i think we can play with some of those teams and win.denny our big guy says that he would love to meet u as i would someday we are sure u played in the south bend classic thats where all this bull shit started from your big fly mouth so next year we will be there again come up and say hi to denny and me also the chicago blue chips will be there they have expressed interest in meeting u to.so mr i know everything about softball come up and say hi...by the way smallfly my ring looks great on my hand.u are not jealous are u lol P.S. show your face we are really nice guys u can have a beer with us in south bend .......or do a fly by ok lmao
Dec. 5, 2004
kingofpain2
35 posts
chet, why do u say the blue chips want to talk with this biggfly dude??i play with the chips and would like to know the beef goin on ,ok?
Dec. 8, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hey king how u doing been out of town sorry i could not get back to u sooner ...if u read what the idiot has said u would get the idea...but anyways we where playinf against your team in south bend classic and i was running to second base and your shortstop had the ball and going to throw to first for the double play ball and the ball slipped out of his hand and hit me in the legg wow my legg knotted up he said he was sorry and he knew i was out of the basepath so anyways some of your guys helped me off the field end of story...so this smallfly responds to nancy if u read u will know what he says but he said i was in the way of the throw and i should of gotten hit ...i dont have any respect for anyone wo wants to hurt someone playing the game its not right like i said if u read from the beginning u will understand....also at schamburg we where there at the tourney and two of your ballplayers came up to me and said who is this ass called bigfly they would like to meet him and set him strai because thats not what happened so i said he was here at the tourney but has not shown his face and your teamates said let us know.....but no smallfly...if u remember us playing u in south bend u will remember the play at second and nance does not condone throwing at a player...if u have any more ? please ask
Dec. 11, 2004
biggflyy53
16 posts
Chet-Heard through the grapevine your so-called world championship team is having a get together at the Main Street Pub.
I bet with that group all together ,people at the pub will probably think your sorry bunch won the "Senior Special Olympics"!
Your IQ's added all together would not add up to double digits!
If I stop there by chance tonight, I will keep my promise and buy you that Shirley Temple, slugger!
Dec. 11, 2004
CHET53
9 posts
hey smallfly....how are u? this is getting to be really fun seeing how stupid u really are ...are u eating to much shit it is getting to your small fly brain....i forgot its real cold outside and fly s cant come out in the cold...hey u must be real hungry ....i got an idea i can save some ofmy dog s and fedex it to ya i will pay for the shipping lmao ok...let me know i am sure u will..hey u know it sounds like u are jealous of our getogether tonight i wish u had the balls to show your face...u have had a chance to do that in schamburg at the tourney but u did not...hey maybe in the spring u will show us what a fly LQQKS like lol.....u know what that ring lokks great on my finger what do u have on your finger smallfly lmao........u know if u look at everything about this u dont have one person on your side about this subject wow ..u are flying around by your selfLQQK at the message board.....hope to hear from u again.i am sure i will...after all fly s like to eat shit and thats what u are doing lmaooooooooo......see ya!!!!
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