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Discussion: What would your average drop as you go up in classification?

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June 13, 2007
audieh
Men's 60
240 posts
What would your average drop as you go up in classification?
Ocassionally, we hear of a "stud" hitting .800 and drilling every other pitch out of the ball park in say AAA ball. Well, we pick him up for a major plus tournament or two and usually that .800 average turns into a .550 and the homerun total drops to about 1 in 10 at bats at best.

I realize that the defense and pitching are much tougher in major plus. What do you think a .800 hitter in AAA ball would hit in the major division and the major plus division? Would you say the average would drop 100 points per division?
June 14, 2007
Stones 1B
Men's 55
52 posts
Who's keeping the Stats Man?

A hit is a hit is a hit?
I would say he would hit the same if he was any kind of player?
I don't get it, excuse me hear, but who's keeping the Stats Man?
Geez all kinds of variables...Is he comfortable on the team?
Is he trying to make the team and impress too much?
Is he being treated like the Man on the team?
Sometimes players are looked upon to provide the leadership and hitting on certain teams and then you move this guy to being just one of the guys and he's not playing/starting and he starts to lose the feel for the game/team...
Hit me up on this one guys???
But good ? Audieh
June 14, 2007
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
I’m sure all the STUDS will be lining up to play with this guy, lol. Is the defense that much better in Major +? There may be fewer errors on routine plays but the only glaring difference in defense in Major +, from what I’ve seen, might be on the mound. But if the guy in question was such a good hitter he wouldn’t be going up the middle that much anyway. What probably happened is that he felt the pressure of his “teammates” expectations, swung a little early, and hit a bunch of high flies. Guess he won’t have to worry about impressing you anymore, heh Audieh?
June 14, 2007
DesertGuy
Men's 60
224 posts
Here we go again on the middle! Batting average is a fnction of too many variables. Weather, youth of opponents, day or night (for both the hitter and the fieldres) and too many other things to list. And for the record, I hit the ball in the middle all the time. The middle for me is anything between the foul lines. That's only 90 degrees of my 360 degree world!
June 14, 2007
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
Gary, we’ve had this discussion before. In my humble opinion, the hole in the middle is a much bigger target to hit than the 3/4 or 5/6 holes. There is a defender there, but he is at a position of disadvantage after having delivered the pitch and being closer than the other fielders. It appears to be the path of least resistance. That would seem to be illustrated by the fact that most people go there when the homers are used up. And if a liner is hit too hard, it has less of a chance of being caught because of the gap between the outfielders. If going up the middle is what you like to do then do it. It doesn’t make you any less of a hitter than anyone else. But you seem to want to take it as an attack on your hitting prowess. It’s a bigger hole. Nuff said.
June 14, 2007
audieh
Men's 60
240 posts
Ken, I've played on a number of tournament teams during the past 5 years but very few that I was in control of the personel. I can not fault a sponsor who is trying to be competitive and gives a player 2 tournaments to prove himself.

The teams that I sponsor and have control of personel are based on a one year committment. Then at the end of the year we see if we need to re-tool. Last year we picked up a player who was dominating league play which is comparable to a AAA division. On our team he struggled the whole year and I could tell the ability was there but he didn't feel comfortable in the major plus division. This year he is back and is considered to be our best hitter. However, it took a full year for him to blend.

I guess the way I should have asked my question was .... how much better is the defense and pitching at the major plus level compared to the AAA and what, if any would the typical bating average vary. Would a .650 major plus player hit the same in AAA and vice versa?
June 15, 2007
fastover50
6 posts
I agree with Audieh. One thing to keep in mind though. Many times players that play in lower levels are more casual about their training. Moving up to a Major Plus level requires a commitment to up your level of play. I think I know the guy Audie is talking about and he probably hasn't missed a week of hitting since he started playing Major Plus. He did what he needed to do to step it up. Are there potential Major Plus players in AAA. I'll bet there are. Is there a difference in the defense in Major Plus and AAA. You better believe there is. The ball is hit harder and your playing sometimes the best of the best. To say it's only on the mound that the difference is made? Play some infield and tell me that. Watch some of these major plus players hit line drive peas into the fence and tell me they hit the same as the aaa players. Defense and offense are different. Just my opinion.
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