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June 18, 2007
THECAT
59 posts
rip it reaper
Pre order Ripit Reaper for $299 and free shipping. But it says please specify ASA or USSSA.
I understand, but how can the same bat be ASA or USSSA legal. The diference is? Has any of the guru's tried either bat yet.
June 19, 2007
calpops
32 posts
My son and I play with the Chicks sporting goods team here in Chino Hills. I am using the yellow senior rip it and my son is using the USSSA reaper.
USSSA allows the bat to be 100mph and ASA stops at 98 mph.
We have hit both models and it is hard for me at least to tell them apart.
I can tell you that the whole team is using the reaper by choice. I won't let them use the yellow bat for fear they will crack it. After all they guys are young and big.
June 20, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey guys,
I've hit the Yellow one over 100 times
it's holding up great
and it's hands down the hottest bat out there.
I hit with the Old A's 60's National Champions
and let them swing it in BP
and everyone of their nationally prominent players
loved it, whether they were short or long ball guys.

I swing the Black one which is the one that is both ASA
and USSSA approved and it's as good as any legal bat
I've swung.
It's balanced but on the sweet spot
will hit with any legal bat out there, including the Freak,
and it's getting hotter with every swing.

The Rip-it guys know how to make a hot bat guys
with end loaded models for us long ball guys
coming soon.
June 20, 2007
koived
41 posts
Uh you mean the combat guys know how to make a bat. Rip-it never has made a composite bat.
June 20, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
Get smart son, Combat has nothing to do with Rip It. Clearveiw dba Rip It contracts with CE not Combat to make their bats. These bats are all Rip It designed from the ground up. They have a product and supply agreeement so CE cannot make the Rip It bat for anyone else. I am getting tired of the Combat grew trying to take credit for something they have no part in. I understand they have to be upset that Rip It has shot by them in sales and statue. Too bad, just lick your wounds and get out of the way.
June 21, 2007
koived
41 posts
Son? I hope that a 54+ man equals son to you. Get over it rip-it has never designed a composite bat. They may be buying a good one from combat but you and the owner of rip-it couldn't design a composite drinking straw. What would you do without Fred and fitz?
C.E. composites is combat check there web site.

combatbaseball.com/ When you google c e composites this is what you get. Go design some more stickers for the bats and we will sand some down for you.
June 21, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
You know this discussion was gone over and over and over again on other boards. Here is what was the final outcome on SBF.

From the Rip-it company:
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Posts: N/A Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy Adams
So where are we at with the CE Combats and the ASA Rip-it? Different bats or no? Do I have a repainted censored? I read this hole thread and haven't seen an explicit answer.


Jeremy,

I apologize that I have not been more clear during these posts. I know people are looking for a definitive answer to this so here you go:

All Rip-It bats are 100% unique. The bat models we have worked with CE to design, test, and launch have never been used before by Combat or any other company.

NONE of our bat model are, or ever will be, repainted bats that were once another company's product. This means none of our bats have ever been sold under the Combat brand name or any other brand name.

We have an exclusive supply agreement with CE Composites that guarantees exclusivity will all of our bat models. That means any company in the future that launches a new bat, including Combat, cannot use our bat models. This is pursuant to a contract signed by myself and the President of CE Composites.

Anyone who would like to discuss this matter further can call me at (407) 464-3764 x111 and I would be more than happy to talk.
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Matthew Polstein
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http://www.rip-it-elite.com

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05-11-2007, 02:07 PM #47
trumpball
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Posts: N/A Easy there Matt you refer to yourself as the manufacture of the bat, clearly that is not true. Good luck with your patents and I do know how long it takes because I own 1 in the bat field and a couple others in other fields. We also have one one that has been accepted and are just waiting for the number to be returned in the bat security field. You can go back in the thread the patent number is there. We are also getting ready to manufacture using it in the composite world, yes all of the changes have been submitted.


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05-11-2007, 02:09 PM #48
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Posts: N/A Sorry I did not see your statement before I posted the last. Now that is a very good statement refering to your product, and truthful.

You can read the whole thread at:

http://www.softballfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304143&page=4&highlight=post+retired

Please read to be better informed about what is really going on in the bat making world.
June 21, 2007
tattooball
608 posts
Nessy,
You did leave out a good banter between Matt and myself. I will leave this one alone all has been said that matters on his part.

Kioved,
I do have to agree with Gary19, that was funny. I am going to kill myself now, I said as long as lived I would not agree with him.
June 22, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
Trump if you noticed that is why I put the internet address on this post so one and all can go read the 6 pages of stuff.

The only reason I pasted what I did was to spark an interest for those who want to read about this subject. Nothing more and nothing less.
June 22, 2007
Foothills
Men's 55
76 posts
Trumpball . I have the yellow bat , combat and ultra 11 . I have hit all of them for quite a while now and find the yellow bat to be no better than a combat . Posters on here are saying it is the best thing since the grey ultra . I haven`t found this to be the case . I know you are privy to the actual bpf testing of all three bats . Could you e-mail me with the actual comparison testing so this can be settled once and for all . Also , if the bpf is higher on an ultra could the endload in the combat overcome this disadvantage ? thanks jbarrow@mlode.com
June 22, 2007
tattooball
608 posts
There are many things that go into making a bat pass the bpf test.
Where and how the weight is located is key to making a bat perform and pasing the test.
The ultraII clearly is the all around winner when it comes to performance and bpf. Now take the combat slightly less in performance but most like the way it swings better, so if you swing it better your swing equals any performance difference.
As for the rip-it, it is a ce composites bat made for rip-it. It is a balanced bat and may hit well for some, but over all not much different than the combat, although some changes had to made to the combat.
I think you will find that most of the gray ultra comparisons are comming for people with connections some how to the company. Weather it is free bats or some other monotary value.
June 22, 2007
Enviro-Vac
Men's 60
395 posts
Great answer Trump.
June 22, 2007
Foothills
Men's 55
76 posts
Trumpball . Thanks for the reply . Met you in Reno and found you to be very knowledgable and commited to being #1 in the bat world . I am curious to why if the Miken has a higher performance level , (not taking the swing into account ) , then why didn`t you construct your layering process to come out with a bat ,that is the equivalent of Miken . If Miken is allowed in Senior ball, with that performance level , then they would have had to allow yours also . Thanks again for giving us an option to Miken and giving them a reason to have to respond to us ,the customer to stay competitive . We will only benefit from the two of you competing against each other in this lucrative market .
June 22, 2007
DesertGuy
Men's 60
224 posts
Foothills- Am guessing a bit here, but here's my two-bits worth. The Miken U-II performance standard being a slight bit higher than Combat comes with a price in durability. The U-IIs break like bamboo, and frequently. The performance factor of the U-II to the Combat is something like this: The same swing by the same accomplished hitter probably results in him hitting the Miken U-II 330' and only hits the Combat 328' or so. The difference isn't relevant at 300' fencing!
June 22, 2007
Foothills
Men's 55
76 posts
DesertGuy--I am sure the longevity factor is probably the reason . But it is probably ten to fifteen feet depending on who is swinging the bat . The difference is not a big deal when you hit it good . The difference is important when you don`t quite 'get it ". The difference between a catch on the fence or a homerun . That difference is worth the extra price on Ultra breakage , as long as you can get 500 hits out of the Ultra .
June 23, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
I think we are missing the point of design. It appears that Rip It tells the factory what they want and CE makes that bat. In a sense that could designing the bat. Yet what does it really matter since product and sales are the bottome line. In that sense it seems the folks at Rip It have done a great job. I know my group of friends are happy with the bats and customer service. As you can tell they are building a very strong base of fans accross the nation.
Let me ask this, if Rip It made their own bats in their own factory of their own design, would that make any differance ?
June 23, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Kevin,
I'm proud you call me a friend.
You know more about how bats are made than me.
You can hit the ball farther than me conistently any day of the week.
That's hard for me to admit, but it's true.

I love my Combat, the one you sold to MIke Kelly,
the one you hit in BP in Reno.
It's a monster and I've hit bombs with it.

Yet, there is no doubt
having swung the Ultra 2, Combat and Yellow Rip-it
that the Yellow Rip-it hit's the best of them all and
all the guys I've that have swung it, say the same thing.

The truth is that it's an awesome bat, soft and powerful,
more like the Grey Ultra than any bat since.

The key difference to me is it's softness, like the Grey Ultra.
You don't have to swing hard to get the ball to jump off it,
but when you do, the harder you swing the more you get.

Kevin, you can't rule out my experience and opinion
because of any relationship I may have with Rip-it
without having to recuse yourself for the same reason.

Matt Polstein, the head of Rip-it is a lot like you.
A great guy, a straight shooter and knows how to make hot bats.

In all, Senior softball citizens,
the Yellow Rip it bat is the hottest bat I've swung since the Grey Ultra.
Grab one and you'll see.
Everyone I've talked with who's swung it, young and old,
say the same thing.
You don't have to believe me or Kevin.
Swing one or talk to someone who has.
June 23, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
At least out here in cool Az the rumor is the Rip It senior yellow bat will be legal for SSUSA this fall. Our best hitter, homerun Bill has not been around and sure he is out working on Rip It business so I cannot ask him about that. However I am hoping the rumor to be true since mind yellow bat has held up very well (I don't hit hard) and would look forward to using it this fall in tournaments.
June 23, 2007
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
Batguyaz ........."At least out here in cool Az the rumor is the Rip It senior yellow bat will be legal for SSUSA this fall." ..........are you not the one who started this rumor?
June 24, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
batguyaz - Hey Al;
We love you man but give it a rest. We have been asked by BG to tone down our post about his products. So lets just pull the plugging here.
June 25, 2007
tattooball
608 posts
Making a bat perform .01 or .02 points higher is nearly impossible if you are looking to do it consistantly. We tested the combat for some time before it's release and it performs so close to the other senior bats that it really doesn't matter what the mechanical test shows.
Joe, I think your sucess with the rip-it bat has more to do with the way the bat is weighted for you. If you want to talk off the board give me a call at my office.
K
June 25, 2007
Foothills
Men's 55
76 posts
Trumpball : Excuse me for being anal , but how close were the actual field test reports ? Also , with the release of Worth`s new "Launch " , do you think all of the manufactures` are going after the senior market ? Thanks
June 25, 2007
tattooball
608 posts
Close enough that we did not even look to make the bat perform better than it did already.
Yes, Demarini is the next one with a senior offering comming soon.
June 25, 2007
Foothills
Men's 55
76 posts
Trumpball: Thanks for the info . By the way I bought the Red Combat , after talking to you in Carson City ,and it is killing the ball . Don`t see how these new bats could be any better than the Ultra or the Combat . Just trying to play on there name familiarty to pick up the volume they are losing in this lucrative segment .
July 2, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Kevin,

I emailed you last week but I've reread the last post of yours and want to clarify something.
The Yellow Rip-it bats I have been talking about swinging are stock bats,
took only 25 or 30 swings to break in and are hotter than any bat I've swung
including the Combat and the Ultra 2.
That's the truth, pure and simple and irrespective of anything else.
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