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Discussion: Reno Western Nationals

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July 16, 2007
tommy45
14 posts
Reno Western Nationals
I would like to know why the SSUSA is not offering rings for this tourney. Most of the other national tourney's listed are all giving rings. I have talked to players from other teams and this is the reason they are not playing in this tournament. Thanks
July 17, 2007
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
#1 you are winning the rights to buy a ring they don't give it to you if I understand it right. So what is the big deal.

If teams don't go to a tournament because of that then I put them into a class with teams that claim they won't go to a tournament because they can't use their U2.

IMO 2 of the dumbest reasons not to play softball.
July 17, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4387 posts
I agree on the U-2 bit, but to win and yet have to purchase the prize, isn't all that great either.
They do cost about 50 to X times that depending on how extravagant one order one. Book on them starts at about 37 as of a couple of years ago.
July 17, 2007
tommy45
14 posts
I agree with your reasoning. I just was asking what determines a ring tournament. The other national tourneys listed on the board are ring tourneys.
July 17, 2007
DesertGuy
Men's 60
224 posts
tommy45- There are two 'nationals' every year. One in the east and one in the west. The winners of those play one game at the worlds and the winner is the true national champion and get the rings, or I guess the right to buy them. I think that's the reason the winners in these two tournaments don't get rings. They have one more game to win to be the real national champ.

It's kind of funny that you talked to people that aren't going to these tournaments becase there aren't rings. I wonder how many of them are the same ones that say there are too many ring tournaments and it cheapens winning one of them? I look for any excuse to play and rings aren't a factor. Of course, maybe I'd think different if we ever won one of the ring tournaments. :)
July 17, 2007
4x4
Men's 65
595 posts
I don't know that SSUSA has complete say over it. We won in Rockin' Reno which in size, stature, description of title should really be a "ring" tournament given the huge number of teams and competition.
We just came back from Portland which is designated as a "ring" tournament. while the fields and the staff were first rate the number of teams was somewhere at 50 or less and the divisions blurred with one team that we played clearly placed outside their division while another division they would have been competitive in only had two teams. How can that possibly be worthy of a ring? The balls were the worst ever encountered in ANY tournament. Many teams will not come back because of the ball used. This tournament quite clearly did not live up to "ring" criteria but because they want to build the tournament they give it a "ring" designation. Confusing that someone should take a ring to play in a substantially substandard tournament in many ways. The tournament has a ,loot of promise but it is not really a "ring" worthy tournament. We play in larger tourneys than this in Norcal all the time.
July 17, 2007
Fred Scerra
Men's 80
542 posts
We won a ring in the ATLANTIC COAST CHAMPIONSHIPS but I am not going to pay $100+ just to say I got a ring.

The one complaint that I do have in these tournaments is the quality of the Jersey's they give out. The could use a better quality material. I have won three this year and after 2 or 3 times wearing them they look like they are 2 or 3 yrs old all ragged and faded.
July 17, 2007
THECAT
59 posts
Now here may be one reason why we can't promote other touneys on this sight. Awards have included windbreakers, quality sweat shirts, bat bags, long sleve turtle neck shirts, polo shirts. Most included monagrams of the team logos. Why pay $25-$35 for a T-Shirts , oh yes include motel room, meals and gas. Why not hold raffles and/or use donated gifts. A ring is a nice incentive but if you keep winning a ring tourneys why not have the association start to pick up a larger portion of the cost to upgrade your ring. Now that would be an extra incentive. Just playing competitve softball at our age is even more gratifing and is a great incentive too.
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