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Discussion: OUR TEAM BROKE UP!!!!!!

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Aug. 2, 2007
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
OUR TEAM BROKE UP!!!!!!
I'M OUT IN THE COLD WITH NOWHERE TO PLAT. OUR 50 MAJOR TEAM FROM WI/IL BROKE UP. I'M ACTUALLY 59 AND WILL BE PLAYING 60 MAJOR PLUS WITH KIDZ4EVER STARTING IN NOVEMBER, I NEED A TEAM TO PLAY WITH UNTIL THEN. I'M CURRENTLY IN WISCONSIN FULLFILLING MY SNOWBIRD STATUS. MY FULLTIME HOUSE IS IN THE PHOENIX AREA. I'M VERY DEPENDABLE FOR TOURNAMENTS. I PITCH, AND PLAY 1ST AND 3RD.THEY TELL ME I HIT BOMBS AND HIT PRETTY WELL. HELP THIS ORPHAN OUT
RON DANOSKI
azdreamers3@gmail.com
Aug. 2, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4334 posts
G19,
But while the rule lives it's good for those who's jobs take them there or can affore the bucks to do it.
He'd trying to play, let him.
I don't like the rule either but it's there.
Could be he's just waiting for the snow...lol
Aug. 2, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4334 posts
G19,
No argument from me on that, but you could also make it your DLN... Everyone carries it, who carries a vorter registration card or takes the time to do it.
Aug. 2, 2007
4x4
Men's 65
593 posts
Geez - can't the poor guy (obviously a viable player) just ask about seeking another team without having his thread hijacked AND being taunted and made fun at besides????

Ron - I don't know you but I apologize in behalf of the serious/friendlier board members for this poor treatment.
Aug. 2, 2007
Mango
Men's 50
89 posts
Hey Gary 19,
Not sure why you would lol for someone snow birding in Wisconsin. Maybe CRUESADERVB misspoke but it appears his concept is correct.

Iím not sure exactly how the snowbird rule works, but my general understanding is that you split your residency over the course of the year. Living part of the year in one location and part of the time in another location.

It appears that CRUESADERVB has it right. He spends his summers in Wisconsin (when Phoenix is unbearably hot) and his winters in Phoenix when Wisconsin is unbearably cold. Whatís so funny about that?

Usually you seem pretty logical on most matters. Sounds like this guy is in a tough situation because his team broke up and he wants to play ball. Heís living in Wisconsin right now and wants to play ball with a team back there. I donít know how you can begrudge a guy that just wants to play ball. We complain about a lack of teams and then do things that restrict participation?
Mango
Aug. 2, 2007
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S WRONG WITH A GUY TRYING TO FIND A TEAM TO PLAY ON AFTER HIS TEAM BROKE UP. AS FAR AS BEING A SNOWBIRD, THIS IS THE 1ST TIME I'VE BEEN A SNOWBIRD. I SUFFER TROUGH THE PHOENIX HEAT 24/7 12 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. THE ONLY REASON I'M ''SNOWBIRDING'' THIS SUMMER ''GARY19'' IS THAT MY WIFE HAS HAD CANCER 3 TIMES AND HAD A STEM CELL TRANSPLANT
SHE HAS TROUBLE HANDLING THE HEAT IN ARIZONA SO I TOLD HER WE COULD GO TO NORTHERN WISCONSIN FOR ''90 CONSECUTIVE DAYS''. SO WE'RE ON A LAKE, WITH A PONTOON BOAT AND FISH EVERYDAY.........PETE D THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT, I'LL TAKE YOU FISHING ON THE BOAT....AND WE'LL USE GARY19 FOR BAIT.
SORRY FOR WANTING TO PLAY SOFTBALL
Aug. 2, 2007
Ken
Men's 55
462 posts
Crusader, I hope youíre going after small fish. Lol Good luck finding a team.
Aug. 2, 2007
the wood
1076 posts
Crusader:
Given the length of your feet, I hope that you're on a large boat. Now I know why you always seem to have fishhooks in your pocket when the tab comes.
Take care...
BW
Aug. 2, 2007
sjuhoops
123 posts
hey crusader. i believe you will be trying out for the kidz4ever team. you still dont have enough votes(haha) please say hello to dana and enjoy the fishing and we will see you in oct in phoenix. i hope you find a team for the summer.
hank
Aug. 2, 2007
DesertGuy
Men's 60
224 posts
Crusader - Hope you find a team soon, but first things first. I hope your wife is on a full speed ahead road to recovery. As for the rest of it, it's my sincere hope that G19 has finally crossed the line of poor taste that gets him banned from this board. I probably don't speak for any more than a couple hundred of us, but I've just about had it with his uncontrollable need to post on EVERY topic, with a batting aver age of close to .000 on having anything I find relevant. It would be good riddance. Take care Crusader and good luck on both fronts.
Aug. 2, 2007
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Kidz4ever greatest name in the history of softball. I've learned alot about senior softball watching those guys, good luck great bunch of gentlemen.
Aug. 3, 2007
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
HANK, I'LL BE IN VEGAS FOR THE LVSSA, I BOOKED MY ROOM 2 MONTHS AGO FOR THE LVSSA AND THE WINTER NATIONALS, B4 WE BROKE UP.. I'LL BE THE ''JOE BROWN'' BATBOY FOR THE KIDZ AGAIN!!! WOODY, MY FEET AREN'T AS BIG AS RONNIE GALVINS TUMMY!! ARE YOU GUYS GONG TO MANKATO? I'LL COME AND WATCH.
Aug. 3, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
Ron I hope you wife gets better fast and you find a team. It is a shame your team broke up. I like some of the others am sorry for what the resident know of it all of senior softball has stated. His hate and discontent for senior softball at the tournament level has clouded his judgement.

Those who know you through the senior softball tournaments know why you are a snowbird those who never play but only read about it don't. That is why they put their foot in their mouth more often than not.

Gary what do you think snowbird means? It means and has always ment that one goes south or west for the WINTER when it is warm and north for the SUMMER when it is cooler. In case you want to dispute this here is the Webster definition: "Slang One who moves from a cold to a warm place in the winter." Now I understand why you were banned from SBF.
Aug. 3, 2007
CAT
148 posts
I had suggested to Terry H. of SSUSA several times that there are players out there that neither have the money, time or do not have the political BS to make the commitment for an entire season. What I had suggested is that for the Worlds and possible Nationals, you have regional teams of individual players who want to play and are without a team for the above reasons, etc. Kinda like an All-Star team from each region. Afterall, isn't it more about fellowship and meeting new friends over the intensity and desire to win?? There are many, many players out there that are not attached to a team and are missing out on the fun..If some of you guys agree, than I thnk it needs to be heard to the appropriate organizations....
Aug. 3, 2007
The Pro
81 posts
Someone pick this guy up! He's an awesome hitter for both power and average (DO NOT PITCH TO HIM IN BP IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE)! A fearless pitcher who doesn't care if you "hit the middle". He's a former slow pitch "Pro" player who lives and breathes the game. If you're one player short of having a possible championship team Ron is one of those guys that can make that difference. Besides as a current member of the "Kidz4ever" team I'd like him to be playing to stay in shape and be ready for us in the fall.

Say hi to your lovely wife and I hope to see you in the upcoming tournaments playing for someone.
Aug. 3, 2007
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
THANKS PRO, WHAT DO I OWE YOU FOR THE PRAISE?
SAY HI TO MICHELLE AND I'LL SEE YOU AT THE LVSSA
I'M THE THE BAT BOY......AGAIN
Aug. 3, 2007
the wood
1076 posts
Crusader;
We will be in Mankato. RG has already called me about your 'tummy' line... it's become my fault that you wrote it. :-(

Officer E:
Right on the nose on that one. It's amazing how an actual definition is essentially incorrect in some folks eyes. It seems as though their personal experience supercedes Noah Webster's.
I feel your pain, brother. :-)

BW
Aug. 3, 2007
JMJIT
Men's 60
35 posts
Hey BBP I hope you find a team.As for all the haters out there Get A Life.
It about having fun and enjoying Life.Kidz are getting not just a great player they are also getting a a Team Player who always has your back.
Go Get`em BBP

Bama Slamma
Aug. 5, 2007
Cimarron
10 posts
Hey Ron,

Diane and I hope that Danna is feeling well. We know, first hand, how difficult chemo treatments can be and yes, the heat really bothers you when going through a treatment series.

Good luck in getting hooked up with a team. Anyone would be lucky to get you as a player. This guy can flat out hit.

Be sure to let Danna know that we (Diane and I) are thinking of her. She is a special lady and for the life of me I don't know how the hell you got her to marry you:)

We look forward to seeing you guys in LV.

Diane & Alan
Aug. 6, 2007
curveball
Men's 65
400 posts
It's obvious guys that don't live in the desert don't understand the best way to be a snowbird. We, desert area guys, have about 8 months of great softball weather, interrupted by 3-4 months of extreme heat. to make life perfect, you get out of the desert for those hot months. I'm a year round resident of Palm Springs because I have a 15 yr old daughter who plays fast pitch and attends H.S. When she's out of the nest, I'll summer in Oregon to get away from our heat.
I'm in no way being criticle of the rule, I could care less, just stating it's not so foolish to spend summers in a cooler climate.
Aug. 6, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
BW I thought about a witty come back but then decided it was not worth the time or effort. It is clear to me now that one cannot reason so one must just ignore.
Aug. 6, 2007
the wood
1076 posts
Mr. Ness:
Surely it didn't take you longer than me to figure that out. Say it aint so...BW
Aug. 6, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
E. NESS & THAT TERRIBLE BW: Rules, do we really needs rules??

Arn't rules made to be broken? Rules, were made to inspire mankind to think; to find or have solid logic in ones feable attempts 4 reason' that has merit; to find fault w/ the Main Streams ABSURD reason';

0, Einstein, where arth thou, when I am in such need of such poetic justice that only u, Einstein, can write. 4, not only have u forsaken me, but, u have shamed & left the battle field 4: Norq 44, Wood, Lecak, Trumpball, Cagnoc Kid, Pete D; where arth thou..... my Prince of Thoughts.

Shamed....... The STONEMAN...
Aug. 6, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Stoneman,
Thou cuttest me to the quick!
Et tu, Ston-ay.

There's nobody like you.
The wit, the heart, the wildness.
May your tribe increase.

I spoke with Bam.
He's gonna be all right.

Tell Rick I said hi and what Bobby said.
Aug. 6, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
BW my wife told me that I my attitude toward the human race has gone from bad to off the chart worst these past two years so I was trying to make an attempt to prove her wrong. That attempt failed. So I shall join the rest of my friends and follow suit.

Stoneman you lost me on that one but I shall make attempt to answer. My life is enforcing said rules so it is very difficult to agree with that statement. Those who aspire to find ways around the rules I enforce have a tendency to put my country and many lives in danger. While what I do is different from the rules you speak of it is just difficult to see it any other way.
Aug. 6, 2007
4x4
Men's 65
593 posts
E Ness - with discretion being the better part of valor you were an inspiration to us all. It is plain just not worth it to continue to respond to anyone that is not serious (or maybe seriously mentally ill) thinking they are making a contribution.

Contributions are intended for the betterment of a given cause. We cannot allow one misguided mind to continue to garner ANY further attention.

If we do the joke (and shame) continue to be on us. If we don't DNC the thread we should just continue on subject ignoring the negative inserted by/just/for one person's amusement.
Aug. 6, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
E. NESS O, E. NESS: I c that my humor, has no humor. In todays world(s), there r just so many rules.....

Put the law on the back burner 4 a second. PLAY where one VOTES??? Have we not gone over this .......?

Do SENIORS, need more rules in order to play SOFTBALL? Because a few many 'cheat", bend rules, or think different?? Should a few players that fall thru the CRACK & be left out... NO WHERE to PLAY??

JUSTICE 4 ALL!! NESS, U & I, may follow or try to follow the intent of SENIOR SOFTBALL RULES...... What can, & if, we could, should we do to those (PLAYERS) that do not or will not follow our (rules) ways (thinking)??

E. NESS...... WOOD, U, & many others, PETE D, NORQ 44, have tried to reason w/ one that has no Mental .........
Please, re-read, & remember that on this Board, we r to be NICE. I was hav' fun, EINSTEIN, saw my "humor".

GOOD LUCK..... The STONEMAN.....
Aug. 6, 2007
the wood
1076 posts
Gary, just exactly what gives you the right to detemine what is or isn'y a real snowbird?
I've read your posts for the past 2 years... it started with you emailING me about the wjhereabouts and current status of some former teammates/friends of mine... Rick Wheeler, Mike Cellura, Ron Parnell... you asked about them as if you were close friends. none of them knew who you were.
Then... 600+ posts later...
you might wish to cease with the name dropping.... You were never there... ever.
you act as if you you're right there among us today but you've not played any meaningful senior events.... NONE.
you feel the need to jump in on every thread even though you haven't played in zilch. But... at least you repeat your comments daily.
Dude, give it a rest.. you have zero to add to OUR dialogue.
If you need attention this desparately, email me personally and I'll be willing to give you your daily bread (awtrgroupsc@aol.com). Enough is enough. Really! What will it take for you to realize that no one west of West Shaker Heights gives a rat's behind about your limited views. Even Richard Kimble knew when it was time to just stop.
You've already been banned from another mesaage board... of course, it was due to your incessant need to 'put mirrors in front of everyone'. There is no real nice way to tell you to cease and desist as you ignore it at every juncture.
How about this? Guys that seldom agree on anything are 100% together about you. I know , chalk it up to us being a 'close little soceity'. Know this, people much brighter than you have tried to be tactful to no avail.
Bob Woodroof
Aug. 7, 2007
mad dog
Men's 60
3929 posts
woo-woo,i couldn't of said it better bob.he's also dropped mike macenko's name,so while at the spring training in feb(jacksonville,fl) me and pete d asked mike about him and he said the only way he knew of him was from the softball board,he also added that g-19 was a tool.
Aug. 7, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
Stoneman all I can say is: "I see said the blind man" I guess I was having trouble separating the job from softball.

BW nice try my friend but once again if fell on deaf ears. Look at it this way when trying to converse with one who has selective memory and thought the one will never see the forest for the trees.
Aug. 7, 2007
Lecak
Men's 55
1006 posts
Very few can play at the level some of these gentlemen play at. I think the mixing of the age groups when appropriate makes for some interesting competition. In the spring I happened to be in Prescott AZ and got to play against GSF, Grimes Trucking, KIDS4EVER and made some new friends. Damn Senior softball mixing age groups so I can play the key word play.
STONEMAN, Rose says hi.
Aug. 7, 2007
the wood
1076 posts
Gary, we know first hand how many teams and players that we see on a regular basis. We know this because we're there.
We had 6 major + teams in KC and roughly 10 or so in the major division (55). We played in NSPC years ago and it didn't have many more than 8 in any one event.
But all of this is beside the point. Those of us that do play seem to like it whether you approve of it or not. We don't rag on your 'Greater Cleveland Senior League'... we can't, we aren't there to experience it. That is the point as we see it.
We are not kindergarten kids and, consequently, do not need to hear the same messgae over and over. You do make some valid points... but you don't need to resort to the Chinese Water Torture routine. We're grown people, we get it... THERE ARE FEWER PLAYERS PLAYING TODAY.
Aug. 7, 2007
terrymac
46 posts
Gary 19 Sometimes teams schedule tournaments in Jan and have no idea how many teams are going to be there when the time comes. You just play. Our team has been AA for a long time, but we play as hard as we can every time out. They can call the tournaments anything they want, but all we ever want is a chance to compete. As you get older you really cant ask for a whole lot more. Remember just being healthy enough to play is a lot more then a lot of guys have. Terry McClaskey Ohio Silverados
Aug. 7, 2007
the wood
1076 posts
I buy into your boxing analogy and I also agree that there are too many senior assns. Yes, they do get in each other's way at 'crunch time'... conflicting event dates. Like the boxing assns, this is a problem that has no immediate solution since none of them seem interested in disbanding. Attrition is the obvious answer.
But on the quantity issue... to most of us it isn't about the numbers of teams any more. It's the quality of the events... this differs from assn to assn. We used to play strictly DE events and knew that we needed to play 5-6 real good games to win (years ago). Today we play 2-3 seeding games, which most of us like... then we go into the DE.
We aren't kids any longer, particularly the outfielders, so 3-4 DE games seem to satisfy us... as long as we're confident that we're playing the best of the best.
When we played in 32 team brackets years ago we usually started with a couple of local teams (less competition) and didn't see the tougher teams until the 2nd or 3rd round. This was true in Aug '78 at Madison Park in Lakewood, OH. We played Hillcrest Tavern on Friday night... btw, their SS was M Macenko (his pre-Steeles days)... we beat them pretty good and then played Nelson's Painting on Sat morn... we didn't play Howard's until Sat eve.
We do not have this luxury today as they have different classes of teams and they have segregated them for the most part. It just boils down to what we like or don't like. We don't have the choice of 32 team brackets any longer so we find a way to enjoy what we do have. We (GSF) go to the 4 nationals that make the most sense to us... best teams, best locations, economics, rules, etc. We use the assns track record to guide us... and this message board.
Aug. 7, 2007
The Pro
81 posts
HEY RON, HAS ANYONE PICKED YOU UP?????

JUST THOUGHT I MIGHT REMIND EVERYONE WHAT STARTED THIS THREAD 40 SOME RESPONSES AGO!!!!!!

ONCE AGAIN RON IS THE REAL DEAL - GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY!
Aug. 7, 2007
the wood
1076 posts
My fault, Ron... I didn't intend to hijack your thread... I lost my head.
:-)
BW
Aug. 7, 2007
CRUSADERVB
Men's 65
272 posts
MR. PRO, NO LUCK YET. EVERYONE HAS THEIR TEAM SET. I'LL JUST GO BACK TO AZ. AND TAKE BP AND WAIT FOR THE LVSSA SO I CAN POLISH YOUR SHOES AND WIPE OFF HANKS BAT. THEN THERE'S BIG AL, BARNES , BUTCHIE AND FREDDY TO GET WATER FOR AND MAKE FOOD RUNS.

WOODY NO PROBLEM...........WHY DO YOU GUYS EVEN RESPOND TO GARY19......HE MIGNT JUST GO AWAY IF NO ONE RESPONDS!!! HOW'S BAM DOING?
Aug. 8, 2007
tattooball
605 posts
Gary,
You need to look in the mirror. Anyone that does not agree with you is closed minded. I say the opposite you are a fool and close minded to think you can come on here throw you opinions around and believe that somebody is going to take your side? Hitler was close minded and tried to make the world believe in his beliefs and you see what that got him.
The people on here are softball players that enjoy the game of softball, they also like to communicate with others about the game. Sharing info is what makes the world go round let it be. No one on here has STARTED any thread refering to you in negative way until you taunted them to. To me you are nothing more than the little kid on the block that taunts the biggest guy, then when he is ready to kick your ass you run home and hide behind your mother on the front porch. Yes we all had this kid on our block.
Aug. 8, 2007
tattooball
605 posts
1. This is not my tiny little turf, it is a softball community and most will agree that it is a good place to share info and exchange views. You seem to have missed that point by bringing negative banter to every thread you hijack. Some of your points may be taken seriously if you even participated in the tournaments you so boldly bash on a consistent basis.
2. What have you done in a positive way to help the situation?
3. How many of these events have you participated this year to form a knowlegable conclusion?
I have been to many events this year and have several more on the schedule to attend, and everyone I've been to has been a blast to go to and be a part of. The people of this board and the association are the reason this is such a great time.
Aug. 8, 2007
jim16
Men's 65
169 posts
Ron, This softball community is embarrassed at how this thread was hijacked. A few great players have expressed their concern for you and your wife. We all pray for miraculous treatment for her and hope to see you playing soon as much as you can.
This board is important to so many of us and its where we congregate. We disagree on many things and use this board to sound out solutions. Gary19 is a total jerk and yes as Trumpball expressed, he does hide. Gary ,Go out to your local park and try to make contact with some of the guys you dis on here regularly. Youmay get a big surprise.
SSWC, please ban this jerk from your and our board. I believe we are unanamous in this request.
Aug. 8, 2007
tattooball
605 posts
Iraq, no but I am a vet and have served with honor.
Make a difference not a mistake. You have already been banned by one community why do you continue to be an a**.
Aug. 8, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
Ron, Bamm is now scheduled for tomorrow morning. I understand the operation will be performed by one of the best doctors in the country. Lets keep your wife and him in our prayers.

Hang in there bro you will find a team you are too good of player not to.

Kevin all I can said is this reminds me of the many different people who wrote about the Vietnam war. Most never went but all had opinions which is one of the reason we serve. But in the end whose opinion does anyone really trust those who went or those who read about it. Same goes here.
Aug. 8, 2007
tattooball
605 posts
"Is it my fault it didn't take me long to see the shortcomings and realize that for the most part they are not a very good use of my time and money?"

Then why are you here on this board. It seems as though this is also not good use of your time, find something productive to do.
Aug. 8, 2007
The Pro
81 posts
For God's sake, enough already - this thread has totally strayed from it's purpose - LET IT DIE!!!!!!!!!
Aug. 8, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
Pro trust me this is the last time I answer this guy. I thought I was going to get to come to the LVSSA with the Mavericks but not now bro. I was hoping to see you and the LV boys.

G19 you have no clue who you are talking to which is fine by me but your little snip about reading books is rather funny. So I will be stupid enough to enlighten you and I am sure you will have another quick come back because the only one right on this board in your opinion is you.

First: I have a BA in History, Old English Lit and Spanish, an MA in History and Old English Lit. (that means I speak and read old and Middle English and I love to read books like Beowulf, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, Genesis A and so forth). I have an EDS and a Ph.D in US Military History with post grad research work in the United States Civil War and the Vietnam War (I served two tours of duty in Vietnam). So I would say I have read a few books in my time.

Second: I only have opinions on movies I have seen and when we did the "Remember Me" project four years ago not only did I work with a film crew filming the movie I was also the main historian on the film. I also did some taping at the History Channel studio. Lets see last book I authored? Well that would be in 2004 when my dissertation was published and I am in the process of getting two published for my job. Not much on bonds so I do not discuss them. As far as the MLB and Steroids go...I am more concerned about the buying and selling of said steroids rather than who is taking them but that falls under what I do for a living.

Your fault is that you refuse to allow anyone else to have an opinion. You must for some reason cut on just about everything everyone says and all you bring to the discussion is what you have seen in one brief year of playing and the small amount of research you
have done. Have you made some valid points? Yes! Have you really paid attention to what others were trying to discuss with you about said points? No! It seems to be your way or the highway and you want to continue to make these points by taking over threads. The sad thing is we have let you continue this practice by arguing with you. Which is our mistake.
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