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Discussion: Reaper bat ?

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Aug. 4, 2007
wellsaz
11 posts
Reaper bat ?
Can anyone tell me when the Reaper bat will be out for seniro sooftball with ASA stamp ?
Aug. 4, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4305 posts
I believe both versions are available now.
Aug. 6, 2007
calpops
32 posts
I have seen some of the young guys using it but any reviews from the senior group ?
Aug. 7, 2007
calpops
32 posts
I had a chance to use the Reaper last night at the Big Leauge Dreams here in Chino. The other team was from
Chicks Sporting goods and let us use it during the game.
Our team has a mix of young and old with five guys over 55.
On our team we have many bats including the Virus, AV, Freak, Jeff Hull and Easton. This bat put them all in the back seat. I am not an expert here but will share with my senior friends that this bat is on the top of the food chain.
Please do not poin a crooked finger at me for posting this. Just try one and if I am wrong please let me know.
Aug. 7, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Just got my USSSA Reaper.
Feels good and will hit it a lot this week.
Will let you know.
Aug. 14, 2007
calpops
32 posts
In terms of break in period for the Reaper ASA. It only took about 40 hits to reach a nice level of performance.
Aug. 14, 2007
THECAT
59 posts
Now that the reviews are getting better and better on the ASA Reaper. How long will it be before the ASA includes it on its ban list??
The games played at all Field of Dreams allow only ASA approved bats. But I understand that a few FOD parks are not allowing the Reaper ASA version.
Aug. 14, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Ron Joseph and I, from Kelly's
hit the 100 mph USSSA Reaper on Sunday
and it feels good and hits good.
It's seems to be heading into Ultra 2 range
of pop with only 100 swings.
I hit the sweetspot with a ahot that felt and sounded like a click and went about 350 to left.
I'm excited to hit it more
and will let you know how it goes.
Aug. 14, 2007
Lecak
Men's 55
1005 posts
If you have used the Yellow Rip it if the weights are equal will the UTRIP reaper feel the same? An example I can go back and forth on the Combat AV and Combat senior and if everything is equal (weight,balance point) I don't notice any adjustment period. Thanks
Aug. 14, 2007
calpops
32 posts
Are we talking about Big League Dreams ? If so the Reaper ASA & USSSA are allowed. I have confirmed this with BLD management today by phone.
I also called our Southern California ASA director and she said the Reaper is approved and will not be banned but the yellow senior bat is not allowed. She seem to know the brand very well. The fastpitch bat is becoming very popular in SoCal. My DD plays D1 at UCR so I follow the f/p market close.
Aug. 14, 2007
the wood
1075 posts
I tried the ASA Reaper today and between us we put 130 swings on the bat (it was 90 degrees outside). I also used a Miken Freak for comparative purposes. As the number of swings piled up the performance improved but it has yet to rival the Freak.
The little brochure that comes with it suggests that it takes 200-250 swings to fully break in and I believe this to be true. I will put another 100-125 swings on it and then formulate a more learned judgement.
I will qualify this by saying that it is a 26 oz (they were out of 27s) and the Freak is a 27... so the Reaper felt a little bit light.
I do like the feel of the Reaper and feel that it has more potential than the 2 Senior Rip Its that I had previously purchased.
I have heard it said of many ASA bats that they are better than the Freak. Maybe so, but I haven't found one yet. One of the parameters that I use to evaluate a bat is simply how far the ball will go. I usually compare it to another ASA type of bat in this way and also on the general feel of the bat.
As far as I'm concerned, the jury is still out. It is my intent to obtain a 27 oz Reaper and hopefully will get a more equal comparison.
Bob Woodroof
Aug. 14, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4305 posts
the wood,
LMK if you decide to trade or sell the 26oz Reaper.
If by chance you do not have a 27oz Black rip-it, I have a vg used one. I prefer a 26, which I also have.
Aug. 14, 2007
uwfan
10 posts
A quick note here, I called softball sales – softball.com – to ask their opinion on a bat for ASA. Before I could finish a sentence he almost ordered me to get a Reaper. Since I see you guys talking about this thing I agreed. Don’t know much about bats so I am trusting you fellows to lead me here. Until now I never heard of this company. Are they a part of Miken or one of the larger companies or new ? If so where did they come from ?

Joe
Aug. 15, 2007
calpops
32 posts
I trust you will be very happy with the Reaper.
Aug. 15, 2007
AZPlayingBall
Men's 55
10 posts
Are they(asa&usssa) end loaded or balanced
Aug. 15, 2007
mtman
30 posts
End loaded but swings very smooth.
Aug. 15, 2007
Red del
Men's 55
34 posts
Alot of discussion on the Rip It Reaper, Any opinions on the Rip It Senior bat?
Aug. 15, 2007
replant
97 posts
The Rip It Senior is junk like a lot of others. Look guys, they all hve to meet the ASA 98mph spec. Don't get your hopes up. They can't afford the recalls. It kind of like "do you want fries with that?" It's "do you want end loaded or balanced" .Your not going to get an Ultra II in sheeps clothing.
Aug. 15, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
The post is about the Reaper not the senior ASA bat. Sounds to me like your stock in another bat company is down and you are trying to sink the Rip It ship before it sails. Sorry to say you are too late. It you have an issue you should call the company and not try to blast them on this board
Aug. 15, 2007
replant
97 posts
Just tellin it like it is. Notice I didn't hype anything. Never will.
Aug. 15, 2007
replant
97 posts
azsenior--you will also notice Red del asked about the Rip it Senior. But as far as that goes, I wouldn't get my hope up about the ASA Reaper either.
Aug. 15, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
I understand and sorry if I came across the wrong way. I think many seniors are starting to like the company and the bats. I can respect your opinion and advice. We should not get too carried away with any product or brand. Thanks for posting and look forward to what you have to say.
Aug. 15, 2007
replant
97 posts
"and that's all I got to say about that"
Aug. 17, 2007
the wood
1075 posts
A lot of the AZ guys have really felt strongly about the Rip It bats. They have seen a guy in their local senior leagues use them and hit the ball a long way. I haven't personally seen this but I take their word for it.
I used the ASA Reaper earlier this week and compared it to a Freak that is 'fully broken in'. This isn't really a fair comparison because the freak is a 100 mph bat and it will soon be banned by ASA. So my 'comparative analysis' is flawed. The only fair way to compare any 98 mph bat is against other 98s. I did this because of previous claims that the Reaper is hotter than the Freak after 40 swings, which I totally doubt.
So, IMO, it becomes a function of 'bat feel' and also how one might feel about the manufacturer. Rip It does offer a money back guarantee (within 30 days) and a one year warranty. Most ASA bats come with the warranty but I know of no other bat that offers the money back guarantee.
Aside from the Freak, Miken has produced no ASA bat that seems that great... at least, I don't see a lot of them being used. They have introduced several new bats over the past few years and it's been real difficult to keep up with them... Freak 98, Maniac 484, NRG (asa), etc. I cannot speak for their market share but, as stated previously, I do not see many of them being used in ASA senior competition.
The ones that I do see are the Easton (Flex and Extended), Combat AV, Easton ASA Stealth, PSTs, occasinal Easton Synergy 2 (also soon to be extinct) and Freaks.
My suggestion to anyone that really likes any particular ASA bat is to not compare it to the Freak. It's a little like calling a real good rookie 'the next Mickey Mantle'.
When it comes to manufacurer integrity, I like what I've seen of Rip It. No, I do not sell for them or any other bat company.
Bob Woodroof
Aug. 17, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
I agree with assessment on comparing apples to apples. In your comments the Arizona connection was made. Main reason is the VP of Rip It lives and plays there. Over the years he has build many relationships with senior players and is very well liked. Not all use Rip It bats or may even care to. Many hold loyalty to Miken, Worth or other companies which is a good thing for customer brand loyalty is a major part of success in sales.
I believe that over time the market will balance out as Rip It finds there part of the business pie. Overall it has been a positive aspect to the bat market to have some competitive play in the bat field.
I would like to see Rip It get more involved in SSUSA as a sponsor or just be part of the group as Miken and others have done. Many of us that know Bill think there is something in the air and that a big change is about to happen. I cannot see this company just sitting back in the senior market. Cannot tell what it is nor has BG said what it might be but as said in West Side Story – “somtin’ed coming, somtin’ed good”
Aug. 17, 2007
batguyaz
134 posts
I have known BG for many years now. Watched him hit, teach and more times than not get walked. Off the field I have watched him build this Rip It deal from nothing to a national company in a year’s time. So let me tell you as the #1 troll that the best is yet to come. It is my guess these guys’s will not only get involved with SSUSA but be a major player and then take the lion’s share of the senior market. Not only in bats, a full line of equipment for senior players. SSUSA should welcome Rip It into the fold.
Aug. 18, 2007
big jim
Men's 60
10 posts
Could you tell me where to get the Reaper or the rip it?
Aug. 18, 2007
E. Ness
122 posts
E-mail me I can help if they are in stock.
sg550223@yahoo.com
Aug. 18, 2007
uwfan
10 posts
I ordered mine from Softball Sales at www.softball.com.
Aug. 19, 2007
the wood
1075 posts
I had stated on a previous post that I had hit with the 26 oz ASA Reaper and was only mildly impressed with it. I did order a 27 oz and hit with it today... in 90+ heat. Even though it was new (in wrapper) and the 26 had 130+ swings on it, the 27 oz hit better for me.
Both have a very nice feel but neither has the pop of a 100 mph bat (shocker!). Of all the 98 mph bats that we have tested, the Reaper is as good as or better than any of them. I should say though that we didn't give the Combat AV (balanced) enough swings to really break it in (only 200 or so). I just didn't like the feel of it but I've hearrd good things from others. They are both made by the same Canadian folks as most of you already know. The bat that the ASA Reaper seems to most closely replicate, in my view, is the Easton Flex. It is much easier to work with than the Rip It Senior.
I am willing to part with the 26 oz if anyone is looking for one that is essentially new but almost 'game ready'. In my view, the list of men that want a 26 oz should be short. But I can be reached @ awtgroupsc@aol.com. It is warrantied.
Bob Woodroof
Aug. 19, 2007
batwise
35 posts
We should all keep in mind the new standards for ASA are very tough and the org Freak is a 100mph bat from the old lack of any standard which means the org freak was one heck of a bat and that kind of performance will not be seen again in ASA or even USSSA play. So the Reaper is really as good as one can get. Again they are made at the same factory but two very different companies.
Aug. 20, 2007
backlast
Men's 55
10 posts
The ASA Senior is no longer being produced as well as the Senior Elite. Rip-It is working on a new senior bat to replace the Senior Elite. The ASA Reaper is basicaly replacing the ASA Senior. I am a dealer for Rip-It and this was passed along to me. There are a limited number of ASA Seniors left in 26oz and a limited number of Senior Elites in 28oz. When these are gone thats it for them. Rip-It is working hard to continue to produce top quality bats for evry age.
Aug. 22, 2007
Bomber23
47 posts
backlast:
can you email me, I's like to ask about buying from you,
thanks, it's bxbombers@tampabay.rr.com
Aug. 22, 2007
backlast
Men's 55
10 posts
You have mail Bomber23
Aug. 25, 2007
replant
97 posts
I agree with the WOODS comment. I was mildly impressed. It's an ASA 98 bat. No more, no less.
Aug. 25, 2007
mtman
30 posts
I was told that both composite bats and softballs are affected by the heat. On a visit to Palm Desert this summer (my first grand daughterļ) we played some ball at 90 + heat and noticed even the new balls where mucky. A friend stated that at high temps composite bats do not flex well. We have Reapers up in Montana and the bat is great, actually becoming the bat of choice with seniors in my area. But down in the desert it was hard to get it to perform as well. I understand the altitude affect on the ball but it was the bat that seemed a little off. Once back home it was back to normal. So the moral of the story is all senior ball should be played at 75 decrees and 5000 ft.

PS: our group now has nine Reapers and so far so good.
Aug. 26, 2007
replant
97 posts
Take care of that for us will ya.
Aug. 26, 2007
mtman
30 posts
Our field here in Big Sky (Montana) is about 7000 ft. It is fun to watch our senior bothers come up and play. They start run to first, a little slower to second and by the time they reach third grasping for air. Most of the time they just forget about running home. On the other hand the ball travels so well you can get it over and not run at all.
Aug. 26, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
MTMAN: 4 every 1000 ft of elevation, baseballs & softballs will travel 4 ft farther.

A 400 # comp ball @ 70 degrees is 400. At 100 degrees, a 400 # comp ball loses 180 # of compression. (A ball will have a compression closer to 180 #s of compression.)

At 50 degrees, a 400 # comp ball gains 120 #s of compression or a balls comp has changed to 520 #s of compression.

Humidity, will only effect a balls travel by a few inches.

A 10 to 15 MPH wind behind a batter, will cause a ball to travel 30 ft farther.

Heavier balls will travel farther into the wind, than lighter balls. Smooth surface balls will not travel as far as a ball w/ a rough surface.

Good luck in the High Country.... The STONEMAN
Aug. 26, 2007
mtman
30 posts
We notice those facts when we play in the desert and then return home. Thanks for the information and taking the time to post it. Our fences are 290 and we can hit many over here but when we play at lower altitude levels it seems to only go about 270. Now we know why.
We had a chance to hit 49/525 balls with that yellow senior bat here at Big Sky and wow, did they ever fly. Some of our guys hit about 330 but the Rip It guy hit some over 400 into the lake. So all you have told us is true.
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