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Discussion: New Bats for 2005

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July 8, 2004
Cheezhed
Men's 50
12 posts
New Bats for 2005
Here we go again with the new bats for 2005. Will they be legal in most of the associations and if so, how long before they are declared illegal. A friend of mine manages a sport store and told me about the new Mizuno Blur. Is anybody familar with it or had the opportunity to swing it? How does it compare to the Catalyst or any of the other new bats for 2005?
July 8, 2004
Fred
45 posts
So far all the buzz is about the TPS Catalyst, Miken Freak Plus, and the DeMarini EVO. Your guess is as good as anyones if they will remain legal throughout the 2004/2005 season. It's a roll of the dice when you're shelling out $300 each.

Fred
58 years young
July 8, 2004
Coach
Men's 80
15 posts
You have to be careful when buying 2005 bats. Most companies are making 2 models one for USSSA and 1 for ASA. For example the PST120 is for USSSA and the PST Max is for ASA. I beleive it is the same for the Miken Freak - Freak + for USSSA and Freak 98 for ASA.

It is pretty straight forward you just to make sure you are getting the right model for your Assoc. you are going to use it in.
July 8, 2004
JoeHardy
11 posts
Hey,like I said before, now the bat manufactures have us buying two bats. When is it going to stop. They are making, or someone is making, a lot of money off of us. Maybe we should just stop buying there bats until they come up with a standard that all association will accept. Besides, with the crappie balls they use now in most of their tourneys, who needs a $300.00 bat when the ball is not going to go anywhere anyways,,,,,stop buying their bats and I bet something will change will quick.
July 8, 2004
Sam Lee
Men's 60
31 posts
Buy all bats used for now. That way manufacturers make nothing.

Too bad we can't unite in favor of the U2 or refuse to play.

We did not have problems with painted bats, balls and all this unhappiness when it was the U2 and a 47 cor ball in the heat.

If "they" want dead bats and dead balls then move the fences in to 275 feet.

Homeruns are part of the game.
July 9, 2004
Lecak
Men's 55
1012 posts
275 ft fences is unrealistic these parks are multi-use. I agree HR's are part of the game. A better solution is open fields let the big guys hit 400' outs and field a team with good outfielders. I enjoy open fields the most. The trentonian tournament in NJ although not a senior tournament plays alot of their games on open fields and these are always the most crisply played games in my humble opinion. This may be simplistic but with good outfielders on an open field you could have your cake and eat it to. The big guys can hit their bombs, good fielding still wins games and nobody gets hurt going up the middle. My experience only. Sam I think eventually you will see more hit what you bring type tournaments. Somebody is going to realize this is what the players want and when these tournaments get word of mouth going they'll have to turn teams away. And others will follow.
July 9, 2004
LOBO
Men's 50
39 posts
I just received my 2005 EVO yesterday but have not had a chance to use it.
I hope that it does remain legal for the 50's for a while. Has anyone used one in a game situation? How does it hit? I am going to Altamonte Springs next week for the monthly tournament and I will report on the bats performance. My model is not ASA approved.
July 9, 2004
sjuhoops
123 posts
samlee
my name is hank from the las vegas sin sity sitties major plus. couldnt agree with you more. wouold be nice if miken would run some tourneys or sponsor some miken only tourneys and they would have tremendous participation. we have a situation in vegas this sept with the ssusa and vegas club tourneys basically the same time period. one you can use the ultra and one you cant. some teams will be able to do both while others will have to make a decision based on bats and length of tourney. anyhow would love to be able to use the miken till when ever. i know our team has some committments this year but next year as many ssusa and hopefully walk has something going with his organization
hopefully we as players can spread the word and convince the td's to listen.
thanks for listening
hank
July 9, 2004
Sam Lee
Men's 60
31 posts
Hank- the players are the ones who count. So the game ought to be tailored to our demands.

And the players demand the Ultra.

I don't want to travel across the country and be forced to hit a sock with a broom stick.

Sam
July 11, 2004
Fred
45 posts
TO LOBO:
Make sure you get in a lot of swings with your new EVO. There is a break in period with this bat. Approx. 300 batted balls and it will be really popping the ball by then.

Fred
July 11, 2004
BruceinGa
Men's 60
2663 posts
I hit the Catalyst this morning when we took a break from watching the Smoky Mtn. Classic in Maryville. I swung it maybe 15 times and thought it was too balanced for me. One of the big guys hit a ball over the light pole at Everett field. It does look like they will hold up. The one we hit had over 1600 swings on it and not even a hint of a crack.
July 12, 2004
LOBO
Men's 50
39 posts
TO FRED FROM LOBO:
THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP. MY FIRST SWING WITH IT WAS LAST NIGHT AND THE BALL TRAVELED 310 FEET. CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN IT IS BROKEN IN.
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