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Discussion: Random Thoughts About Las Vegas

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Nov. 21, 2007
4x4
Men's 65
595 posts
Random Thoughts About Las Vegas
After playing in last weekends Winter Worlds it was a pleasure to play in a well run tournament. The games for the most part were on time. The field crews could have been a little better - but - at least the field directors cared about it tried to spur the workers for a better result. Rudy had a tough start on Friday but made things happen to get Desert Bloom running smoothly - thanks Rudy.

After playing in the imploding train wreck that the LVSSA put on a few weeks ago it was nice to participate in a large, well run tourney where the players were having fun and then could enjoy Las Vegas. I don't think I heard one negative comment about this tourney all weekend. The only comments were the comparisons between the 2 tourneys and how the LVSSA let everyone down.

Everyone have a Happy Thanksgiving holiday!

Pete/Paradise Chevy
Nov. 23, 2007
audieh
Men's 60
241 posts
Hey Pete, what lessons could we learn from how these two different tournaments were run? If you coud contrast them for us then maybe it would help future tournaments run smoother. I played in both the 50 and 55s this year in the LVSSA and the former was a nightmare but the latter ran on time and was a blast!
Nov. 23, 2007
KC33
4 posts
Well I played in the Major-Major+ at freedom park ....I thought it was the worst place we could play ... You just put us out in the middle of know where , with no concession terrible feilds & batters boses no vendors no promotions.. if that's how you are going to treat teams I think I will stay home next time....... sorry
Nov. 23, 2007
4x4
Men's 65
595 posts
We played Major & although our fields were not the best I completely agree that Freedom Park should not have been used. From what I'd been told by a LV player those fields have been decomissioned for local recreational dept.use.
The conditions of those fields is terrible especially with that one field with no batters box.
The LVSSA was pretty well ripped on some other threads right after the event. We played the 1st week there and it all seemed to do with poor management of the fixed assets and the personel.
Teams being called at 6:30 AM and told to be at the fields and ready to play for 8:00 AM starts instead of the posted starting times. All games running up to 2 1/2 hours late in starting times with absolutely no effort to control the lengths of the existing games causing the delays to get worse. Games allowed to be played after the sun set (no one thought about lighting even though the games were running hopelessly late in mid morning) resulting in at one serious injury. Our umpire was smart enough to stop our game when it became unsafe, the other games were still being played as we walked out. Some games were running behind or waiting to be started because "their" umpire was on another field and that game was not over while other umps were there and idle so some fields were empty while the fields in use were hopelessly behind.
I asked who the TD was and the FD (who'd obviously had enough of this) pointed to the TD with a comment like "that stupid idiot over there" (cleaned up to be G rated). Once I tried to get an answer I understood the reason for the statement.
To a man just about every team indicated this was their "last" LVSSA tourney.
The real pity was there was a great field of teams present.

By contrast the Winter Worlds ran smoothly. As for what fields were given to us for use and how that transpired I'm not sure how that worked out the way it did.
Nov. 24, 2007
Smokey20
Men's 55
102 posts
Played my first 50/Senior tournament Major/Plus division.

Little disappointed at both locations Freedom and Desert Bloom (Maryland Ave). I would hope in the future SSUSA would improve on this.

All things considered I had a good time and would go again.
Nov. 24, 2007
doker
Men's 60
168 posts
I THOUGHT THE TOURNEY FOR 55AA AT BOTH HOLLYWOOD PARK AND DOC ROMEO WAS AWESOME...FIELDS WERE IN GREAT SHAPE AND WE ALL HAD A GREAT TIME.....AND WERE QUITE COMPETITIVE....AS THE TEAM GIT R DONE LOST BOTH PRELIM GAMES AND NEARLY MADE IT INTO THE FINAL...WE TANEL AUSTIN WON ALL THREE GAMES ON SUNDAY BY ONE RUN...SCORING 9 RUNS IN THE IF GAME IN THE BOTTOM OF THE 7TH....AND MOST OF THE TEAM WENT OUT ON SUNDAY EVE TO SEE A SHOW AND EAT TOGETHER...VEGAS WINTER WORLDS ARE THE BEST!!!!!!
Nov. 24, 2007
doker
Men's 60
168 posts
WE ALSO GOT TO MEET TAITS WHO IS ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD QUITE OFTEN...HE'S WITH THE CA BLACKHAWKS...55 AA
Nov. 24, 2007
taits
Men's 65
4364 posts
Doker, Hey I didn't mean to leave ya out in my posts to #6 & 13. Your another Tanel player who had a hand in spanking us really good. We flat fell apart as a team. I hope to meet up with you all sometime for a rematch.
Do you honestly think the fields at Hollywood were in "great" shape. IMO, if those were like that, you mut be still playing ball somewhere out in no mans land beween Austin and OK. No lines 1st game, high lip on infield grass line and not mowed.
Aside from that there park it was a very good time. I'm leaving out the ump at Romeo stuff.
You guys have a great holiday season.
Nov. 27, 2007
stucco hank
4 posts
Played in the 50 AAA division, Tournament director for this
bracket was excellent. Friday was great at Desert breeze complex. Saturday was a different story. There is no way
a great tournament like this should have been played on the Freedom Complex. No conncession stand, bathrooms
were a disgrace, and the fields were unbelivable. Its amazing no one got killed. Beside that we had a great time
and thank everyone involved. Met some great players and fans. Hope everyone has a great Holiday season.
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