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Discussion: UII, UII Legacy, Launch 510 Durability Issue

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Nov. 26, 2007
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
UII, UII Legacy, Launch 510 Durability Issue
This spring I broke my original UII that I bought in 2003. I then broke two more with about 250-300 hits on them. I\'m only a buck 75 so I\'m not exactly abusing these bats. When I asked the Miken rep about the new UII\'s durability, he told me that it was due to heavier and softer balls being used. He said that the new UIIs were manufactured to the same standards by the same process as the older models. If not they were breaking a federal patent law. This makes sense, but whether its factual I don\'t know.

He then said thatr the new UII Legacy was manufactured exactly the same as the old model EXCEPT, that they used a stronger resin and that\'s why they can offer a warranty. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge about the Legacy? I will never buy another UII and am looking for another SPA bat. I have heard that the Launch 510 had the same durability issues as the UII. What do you guys think about it?

Thanks
Nov. 26, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
HOMBRE: I have hit w/ several players that have a 26 oz & a 30 oz Legacy. Both bats have over 400 swings. It appears that both bats are start' to break in.

We have been hit' in 60-70 degree weather. The balls are a true 44 cor 400 comp ball. It appears that this "NEW" Ultra, takes awhile to break in. As far as distance, this bats appears to be as good an a SENIOR COMBAT.

Still not sure if the Legacy, is as good as a U-2??? Distance whiz...

On the subject of todays SOFTBALLS.... I have been told that the balls that were r us' r a lil' bigger & a lil' heavyer.

The ol' STADIUM BALLS, were smaller & NOT as big. This is why, todays bats r break' due to the larger & heavyer balls.

GOOD LUCK..........The STONEMAN.....
Nov. 26, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hombre.
Rip-it is making a bat for seniors that will be out shortly.
If it's as good or better than the Yellow one they made last year
that will be the one to buy.
As good as an Ultra 2 and 10 times more durable.
and better than the Combat.
Nov. 26, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
And this new Rip It bat will have nothing to do with Combat or CE. According to my source Rip It has moved on from that and has itís own factory. Have seen some of the Az guys hitting test bats. I have been a fan of this company since they came out and will delight to see them kick some serious senior market butt. Presenting a better product at a better price. If you look what they have done in fastpitch (my DD coaches at a D1) and now into other equipment I know the seniors will be very happy.
Nov. 27, 2007
STONEMAN
Men's 50
535 posts
AZ SENIOR: I have hit several diff' types of RIP-IT BATS, & 4 myself, I am NOT IMPRESS w/ the RIP-IT.

I went on line to look up the RIP-IT BAT. RIP-IT, is a Womens fast pitch site. The RIP-IT Company, appears to be out of Fla.

The products & ads were mostly show' Fast Pitch Bats & items model by women.

Here is the RIP-ITS phone number: (407) 464-3764. In the process of look' up RIP-IT, I came across Bill Gates, out of Az. Bill, was try' to sell 6 of his women's Fast Pitch Bats. Bill, also, listed several of the teams that (he) was coaching.

I will call a "friend" @ SGMA, & others to find out if RIP-IT or ...... is mak' the RIP-IT BAT.

AZ SENIOR....I hope that all Senior Bats are NOT made. But, as long as Senior Bats are LEGAL, I hope that RIP-IT or others do, do well..... Again 4 me, the RIP-IT BATS, break in less than 150 swings & just DO NOT produce 4 me.

GOOD LUCK ...... The STONEMAN
Nov. 27, 2007
replant
97 posts
I agree Stoneman. I sold my Rip It. No pop.
Nov. 27, 2007
azsenior
92 posts
Jealousy breeds contempt
Nov. 27, 2007
mad dog
Men's 60
3936 posts
i will say i had a yellow rip-it and it broke in about a 150 swings(i did like it its performance tho),i'm not a masher like stoney but geeze i would like a bat to last longer than that.my senior combat is really doing good and seems to be lasting,so good that i sold all my u-2's,and it will be my senior bat of choice.now i will say i have an ASA reaper to use for the coming season(since asa won't let the grandfather bats be used in 08)and so far like it.it will be my choice for ASA this yr with my combat AV for back-up.
Nov. 27, 2007
Foothills
Men's 55
76 posts
Easton and DeMarini will also have senior bats this year . Easton has the nano constuction which allows their walls to be thinner and still hold up . I think that their senior bat could give everyone a run for there money . JB
Nov. 27, 2007
floo56
Men's 50
37 posts
In my opinion the UII with the ASA stamps on it is sets the standard! Has great pop and durability is better than the new models. Down side they are hard to find...glad I got three of them! Aloha, Fabe
Nov. 27, 2007
einstein
Men's 50
3114 posts
Hey Stoneman,
Where you going with that gun in your hand?
Seniors are always looking for a better
or the best bat.
We're the baby boomers
with all the cash to spend on weapons of choice
and the marketeers know it.
Let all the companies beware that quality, reputation
and word of mouth will sell (make or break) any company
that makes bats for us to use.
You want to sell Senior bats and seek out endorsement --
Combat, Worth, Easton et al?
Make a terrific and durable bat for us to use.

For me and most of my World Champion Old A teammates
Rip-it's yellow senior bat is a monster
and we can't wait to use it or Rip-it's new senior bat
in NorCal next year.
Nov. 27, 2007
salio2k
Men's 60
548 posts
I've been hearing "The Urban Legend from Arizona" for two years now. Look it up. I tried the Rip It.........didn't like it at all. I gave it away. Like floo56 said..U2 all the way.
Nov. 27, 2007
hombre
Men's 60
220 posts
Fellas, I appreciate the information. Since I won't be buying anything for several months, if anyone comes up with a better choice, please post it. Thanks, again, Hombre
Dec. 10, 2007
hitit
10 posts
Easton WILL NOT be producing a senior bat for the 2008 season....but, is working on one for the future.
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